Proteuswave Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 yeah i think it's not about hardware, it's about code. i just disconnected my vr gear to see what kind of performance i get with my "good" system specs in 2d. 55fps with the supercarrier cold start mission (vsync off) 2080ti, 3900x, 32gb LOW preset settings, except shadow on low 1080p! So i would expect a little more from those specs tbh. Exactly with those specs I expect you to be running high settings with way more FPS. Intel i7 6700 3.4Ghz , 32gig ripjaw ram , Asus Strix RX480 OC 8gb , Samsung 850 Pro SSD, Asus ROG VIII Ranger Z170 Motherboard.
Minsky Posted June 11, 2020 Author Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) Moved the camera away from the Supercarrier (just for the lower LODs to kick in) and then zoomed in to see what's happening. No shadows & simplified crew - 45 fps: Moved the camera slightly closer, and along with the shadows & detailed crew came the huge drop to 28 fps: Edited June 11, 2020 by Minsky Dima | My DCS uploads
Minsky Posted June 11, 2020 Author Posted June 11, 2020 As you can see, the difference in polygons is insignificant (7,6 mil vs 8 mil). It's very unlikely that 400.000 polygons can cause a 38% performance hit. So maybe it is indeed the shadows from the animated crew? From my previous tests I can conclude this: shadows without crew = great performance crew without shadows = great performance partial crew with shadows = tolerable performance full crew with shadows = terrible performance Dima | My DCS uploads
petsild Posted June 11, 2020 Posted June 11, 2020 Hi, I was interested in the difference framerate when set High against Low presets. I used the basic mission of the cold start as a benchmark, which takes 1:45s long. Data are from the internal Bench test MSI Afterburner. Can you please try, there are significant frame drops in time 1 min, thank you. Extra setting: Resolution = 2560 x 1440 SSLR = Off Mirror = Off Setting preset High. 11-06-2020, 20:26:28 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 6379 frames rendered in 104.849 s Average framerate : 60.8 FPS Minimum framerate : 13.4 FPS Maximum framerate : 84.4 FPS 1% low framerate : 14.1 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 12.9 FPS Setting preset Low. 11-06-2020, 20:44:51 DCS.exe benchmark completed, 10613 frames rendered in 101.432 s Average framerate : 104.6 FPS Minimum framerate : 21.5 FPS Maximum framerate : 164.5 FPS 1% low framerate : 23.0 FPS 0.1% low framerate : 20.1 FPSSupercarrierBench.trk MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium.
Proteuswave Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 I wonder if this is the cause of our frame rate issues on the SC? Double shadows been posted about on another part of the forum. https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=277805 Intel i7 6700 3.4Ghz , 32gig ripjaw ram , Asus Strix RX480 OC 8gb , Samsung 850 Pro SSD, Asus ROG VIII Ranger Z170 Motherboard.
speed-of-heat Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 i noticed that you get way more perf with .,.. duh ... simpler models if you replace the f-18 block 20's with F_A-18c's you get a corresponding frame rate boost the double and triple shadows thing is fascinating as well though SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
bad_turbulence Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 i noticed that you get way more perf with .,.. duh ... simpler models if you replace the f-18 block 20's with F_A-18c's you get a corresponding frame rate boost the double and triple shadows thing is fascinating as well though interesting. how do you switch between "Lot 20" and regular F/A 18c model. Mine always comes up and shows "Lot 20"
speed-of-heat Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 You have to select F_a-18c , .. it only works for ai or statics SYSTEM SPECS: Hardware AMD 9800X3D, 64Gb RAM, 4090 FE, Virpil T50CM3 Throttle, WinWIng Orion 2 & F-16EX + MFG Crosswinds V2, Varjo Aero SOFTWARE: Microsoft Windows 11, VoiceAttack & VAICOM PRO YOUTUBE CHANNEL: @speed-of-heat
Minsky Posted June 17, 2020 Author Posted June 17, 2020 2.5.6.50979 (released today) - still not fixed. It's been almost a month, but we still haven't heard a single word from the devs. Considering that the next patch is a whole month away, I really hope that their "investigation" will finally bear fruit. Dima | My DCS uploads
Cornelius Posted June 17, 2020 Posted June 17, 2020 2.5.6.50979 (released today) - still not fixed. It's been almost a month, but we still haven't heard a single word from the devs. Considering that the next patch is a whole month away, I really hope that their "investigation" will finally bear fruit. +1
Wizard_03 Posted June 17, 2020 Posted June 17, 2020 I have a small performance increase after today's patch :) DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer:
wilbur81 Posted June 17, 2020 Posted June 17, 2020 I have a small performance increase after today's patch :) Ditto, at least in daylight play. Haven't tested night yet. i7 8700K @ Stock - Win11 64 - 64gb RAM - RTX 3080 12gb OC
petsild Posted June 18, 2020 Posted June 18, 2020 In the last beta is a better framerate, it only applies to the default shadow and the view of the island. Still in the course of service on the board occurs framerate drops mission cold start. MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4, Kingston 3600 MHz 64 Gb, i5 12600K, Gigabyte RTX 4090, Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus,VKB NXT Premium.
marcoscosta Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 More than 30 days after launch: Hornet Cold Start Mission on Stennis: 108fps Hornet Cold Start Mission on SuperLag: 38fps Seriously ED? Computer: Potato Modules: FC3 | M2000C | A/V8B | Viggen | F-5E | F-14B | F-16C | F/A-18 | A-10C | Supercarrier :mad::mad: | UH-1 | MI-8 | Gazelle | KA-50
Minsky Posted July 15, 2020 Author Posted July 15, 2020 *sigh* 2.5.6.52196 (released today) - no performance improvements. It's been two months and seven patches without a single meaningful word from the devs. Dima | My DCS uploads
Rmnsvn Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 *sigh* 2.5.6.52196 (released today) - no performance improvements. It's been two months and seven patches without a single meaningful word from the devs. Well they had one word on it (investigating) but that's getting ridiculous.
bad_turbulence Posted July 15, 2020 Posted July 15, 2020 Well they had one word on it (investigating) but that's getting ridiculous. wow, hopefully there is breaking news soon. But i should be careful how I use that term "breaking". Let's try, "Hopefully there is performance news soon"!!!
ebabil Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 I regret buying this module because of this performance problems. Now I don't want to use high fps stennis because SC is sitting there. Yesterday I saw 16-30 fps. As soon as I took off, fps reached 50-60 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
bad_turbulence Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 I regret buying this module because of this performance problems. Now I don't want to use high fps stennis because SC is sitting there. Yesterday I saw 16-30 fps. As soon as I took off, fps reached 50-60 Ouch. Man, what do we do with this 16-30 is kind, i get lower than that at times.
ebabil Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 16 fps is a slide show, how come you get lower than that? those low fps issues hurt my feelings as if my pc is in severe pain :D FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
[SFS]JDAM Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 I get 70 fps in multiplayer. But my graphics card is a GTX 2070 and 32 GB of RAM
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 16, 2020 ED Team Posted July 16, 2020 16 fps is a slide show, how come you get lower than that? those low fps issues hurt my feelings as if my pc is in severe pain :D Please take a screenshot of your ingame settings and attach here, we maybe able to give you some tips thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
fagulha Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) Hi all, just to share my experience. I have better frame rate than ever in the SC in VR. I use a lot of mods, a full crowded deck, scripts, etc, so, i can´t blame (and i don´t because it´s not the point why we are here sharing experiences and helping each other) ED for any frame loss i may have, because with vanilla version it´s smooth. I got 30 FPS in VR, less stutter and a better experience. When far from the carrier i get 45 FPS when before that was not the case. There is optimization to be done, the frame loss when looking at the island is less noticeable (vanilla version) but it´s there. Overall i think it´s headed in a good way for now. All of this is subjective because every rig its different, different settings, and so on. My overall specs: -4790k 5.5GHZ -32GB Ram DDR 3 1800mhz -SSD´s x3 -Zotac GTX1080ti AMP Extreme Core Edition 11gb DDR5x & - Valve Index Config: -Valve Index SteamVR: 120hz refresh rate -Valve Index SteamVR Supersampling: 1.0 DCS general options: -VR pixel density: 1.5 -MSAA 2x -SSAA 0 -Shadows to Flat only -16x anisotropic filtering -Visibility High -Textures HIGH -VSync off/Fast (in Nvidia options) EDIT: forgot to mention, usually my frame drops happens as soon i start the batterie in the Hornet, nothing much but that´s why i said there´s room for improvement. Now i´m quite happy with Viper, Hornet and Supercarrier performance in VR. Best regards, F. Edited July 16, 2020 by fagulha About carrier ops: "The younger pilots are still quite capable of holding their heads forward against the forces. The older ones have been doing this too long and know better; sore necks make for poor sleep.' PC: 14th I7 14700KF 5.6ghz | 64GB RAM DDR5 5200 CL40 XMP | Gigabyte RTX 4080 Super Aero OC 16 GB RAM GDDR6X | Thermalright Notte 360 RGB | PSU Thermaltake Though Power GF A3 Snow 1050W ATX 3.0 PCIE 5.0 / 1 WD SN770 1TB M.2 NVME + 1 SSD M.2 2TB + 2x SSD SATA 500GB + 1 Samsung 990 PRO 4TB M.2 NVME (DCS only) | Valve Index| Andre´s JeatSeat.
fagulha Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 :eek: I´m sorry, that is wrong. I mean 4.5ghz, don´t know where i got the 5.5ghz... maybe too much workload. Again, my apologies. F. About carrier ops: "The younger pilots are still quite capable of holding their heads forward against the forces. The older ones have been doing this too long and know better; sore necks make for poor sleep.' PC: 14th I7 14700KF 5.6ghz | 64GB RAM DDR5 5200 CL40 XMP | Gigabyte RTX 4080 Super Aero OC 16 GB RAM GDDR6X | Thermalright Notte 360 RGB | PSU Thermaltake Though Power GF A3 Snow 1050W ATX 3.0 PCIE 5.0 / 1 WD SN770 1TB M.2 NVME + 1 SSD M.2 2TB + 2x SSD SATA 500GB + 1 Samsung 990 PRO 4TB M.2 NVME (DCS only) | Valve Index| Andre´s JeatSeat.
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