SliderCDN - Random CTD, unable to start

[SliderCDN]

Removed AVG, repaired and cleaned up DCS, still no change.

My struggle is to why DCS worked fine for hours and hours and then one day, I start my PC and it doesn't work any more. I didn't install anything new, there were no updates because I disabled it all, specially for Windows....

 

Here's a video: 

 

process_list.txt

[silverdevil]

forgive me if this was already suggested and i missed it. have you tried to reboot computer in safemode and then try DCS. i have not had to do it but i have seen it was suggested in the past. good way to test without any unnecessary bs running in background.. another thing i have experienced myself was to uninstall geforce experience. it applies more graphics settings before game launches.

[silverdevil]

this is probably nonsense but i see you have multi monitors. have you tried to disconnect the monitor not for DCS then trying? you are officially getting into the sim in the video. its after starting a mission that you CTD. that happening may contain clues.

[Flappie]

2 hours ago, silverdevil said:

forgive me if this was already suggested and i missed it. have you tried to reboot computer in safemode and then try DCS. i have not had to do it but i have seen it was suggested in the past. good way to test without any unnecessary bs running in background.. another thing i have experienced myself was to uninstall geforce experience. it applies more graphics settings before game launches.

I used to suggest the use of Windows diagnostic mode but I won't do it anymore: Reflected got stuck doing so and he even had to pay a tech specialist to unblock his Windows. Someone else also had the issue.

 

@SliderCDNI see both Avast and AVG were properly uninstalled. Good job.

Here's a link to an enhanced version of your process list (green = safe Windows process, blue = unsuspected processes, white = potential suspects). If you're still determined to find the culprit (I'm still convinced your crash is caused by an external program), try killing all the white processes thanks to the Task Manager. If they keep restarting,you need to stop their services. You'll still be able to restart them, don't worry.

Edited December 1, 2020 by Flappie

[SliderCDN]

Still crashing without a sign...

process_list.txt dcs.log

[Flappie]

You should try to fly a different bird, just to see if you still get this issue.

Try a Su-25T instant action mission please.

[SliderCDN]

Same story. I listed the processes right after CTD.

dcs.log process_list.txt

[Flappie]

I've tested the same thing in order to compare our logs. Your game files seem OK.

 

Are you using the ASUS software to boost DCS performances?

[SliderCDN]

No. It is used to overclock the GPU. I will try disabling the overclock (it's a 2080Ti, might not need to OC it   ) and uninstalling the software.

Edited December 3, 2020 by SliderCDN

[Flappie]

That's a good idea.

By the way, are you still getting these "Initialization error 2" and "The application was unable to start correctly" error messages?

[SliderCDN]

Yes. After CTD, as soon as I try to start the sim, I get these errors.

[BIGNEWY]

Are you overclocking at all Slider?

 

It maybe best to contact support directly if you continue to have issues 

 

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/support/

[SliderCDN]

I am not, other than what I've mentioned and that is no longer the case. To be honest, I came here because support stopped replying to my ticket updates and the few suggestions they gave me lead nowhere.

Flappie has been faaaaar better and more thorough help than support has ever been, in my case anyway.

Edited December 3, 2020 by SliderCDN

[BIGNEWY]

Some issues like this one can be difficult, many different setups out there, I hope you find a solution eventually. 

Flappie has been very helpful here on the forum as you mention and it is appreciated. 

 

 

[SliderCDN]

Made it to about 18 minutes in editor before CTD without error. Usual errors from post 1 followed on subsequent restarts.

dcs.log process_list.txt

[Flappie]

It's hard to guess what's happening to your DCS. Please try the following:

1. Go to "C:\Users\username\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta", then empty both "fxo" and "metashaders2" folders (DCS shader cache).
2. Also empty "C:\ProgramData\NVIDIA Corporation\NV_Cache" folder (NVIDIA shader cache).
3. Set Windows GPU scheduling to OFF (it might be disabled already).
4. Open your Windows antivirus settings and add exceptions for these two folders: "D:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\" and "C:\Users\DINO\Saved Games\DCS.openbeta".
5. Last but not least, empty "C:\Users\DINO\AppData\Local\Temp\DCS.openbeta" (AppData is masked, but if you copy-paste the full path in your file explorer, you'll get there).

Edited December 3, 2020 by Flappie

[SliderCDN]

I did all this. No change again. I do not understand the issue at all any more...several people I know that take upwards of 20 minutes just to load into main menu, end up flying just fine. My game was fine until this thread was opened. No issues. Now, just poof...turns off, no errors, no nothing.

[Flappie]

You should look for software changes a few days before your issue started.

Check the last Windows updates, to start with.

[SliderCDN]

I reverted last windows update that was 2 weeks before the problems started and no change. No other updates were made to the system.

Zero errors, zero logs, zero sign of a problem other than game just closing.

dcs.log process_list.txt

Edited December 4, 2020 by SliderCDN

[Flappie]

I ran out of ideas, sorry.

[SliderCDN]

Well, you had a lot more ideas than support ever did. I don't know what to say. For DCS to suddenly behave like this without any changes to my system, without any logs or errors or any trace of anything.

[silverdevil]

i saw on video you shared @SliderCDN you still have geforce experience running. have you tried to either turn off the overlay or uninstall GFE? my post was after your video but i see no mention from you that you did it.

 

If you use GeForce Experience and have random games crashing that worked fine before...

 

 

if successful, whenever you install nvidia updates, do a custom install and uncheck the GFE part.

[SliderCDN]

@silverdevil, it's been removed since you suggested it.

 

[SliderCDN]

This is what Event Viewer is showing when CTD happens.

Faulting application name: DCS.exe, version: 2.5.6.58125, time stamp: 0x5fbba395
Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00007ff83a366317
Faulting process id: 0x2518
Faulting application start time: 0x01d6cabf71eed026
Faulting application path: D:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\bin\DCS.exe
Faulting module path: unknown
Report Id: 6407391f-2560-4ef3-b38b-72006ba4232d
Faulting package full name: 
Faulting package-relative application ID: 

 

and this:

 

Fault bucket 1760523786023636937, type 5
Event Name: BEX64
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: DCS.exe
P2: 2.5.6.58125
P3: 5fbba395
P4: StackHash_b4ee
P5: 0.0.0.0
P6: 00000000
P7: PCH_0D_FROM_unknown+0x0000000000000000
P8: c0000005
P9: 0000000000000008
P10: 

Attached files:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERA835.tmp.dmp
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERA9CC.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERA9DD.tmp.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERA9DB.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERA9FB.tmp.txt

These files may be available here:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_DCS.exe_42e7b8bd33d11580eb5eaef621bbb36ecdac6c_30d53c1d_b96a2b4c-0d92-45ec-a4b9-ed5b2230f199

Analysis symbol: 
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: 6407391f-2560-4ef3-b38b-72006ba4232d
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: 503d922915343ce5286ea30e44908fc9
Cab Guid: 0

 

Edited December 5, 2020 by SliderCDN

[silverdevil]

8 hours ago, SliderCDN said:

\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERA9DB.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WERA9FB.tmp.txt

are you able to find these two files and, if not too massive, share them?

 

8 hours ago, SliderCDN said:

P4: StackHash_b4ee

this could be either memory errors in video card or system.

 

also do you have DCS.exe showing customized in the nvidia control panel? perhaps restore the default settings to default or all as "application controlled."