hannibal Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 (edited) hello. i have spend the last 6 months building a min sim-pit in preparation for DCS black shark. i am almost done with the collective..hope to start flying soon on FSX, BF2, JLB2, and EECH. occasionally, i get bumbed out about how slow my progress is, so i look here and the vids for motivation. one vid i look at... http://youtube.com/watch?v=OM-PY8NWfkQ i hear different rotor blade sounds, of various degrees of refraction and reflection. i really hope the final release will have more of a realistic sound like in this also, glowing amraam's video clip at 0:54 secs has a more realistic sound of the black shark... i dont know whats up with those videos from simHQ, and DCS producers notes, but the Ka-50 sounds are a bit weak. i hope at final version, the release will have more realistic sounds...one that allows u to hear the cutting of the blades, and the whine of the engine together to have that AWESOME audio experience... sound, along with gfx makes the experience... this vid also has cool rotor sounds...(can NOT say the same for weapon sounds) owe yea...if this game can do the cool looking swirl effects on smoke..i will be truly amazed x100 Edited July 3, 2008 by hannibal find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179
Boberro Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 I hope too that we will have new great sounds, and maybe few new ground explosions (this same is so boring from LO). Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
Shaman Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 5.1 hardware accelerated sound? ;) Dolby Digital and stuff ;) I don't think ED is actually working on new sound engine, let's just hope they'll make very good stock sound samples - if not - there are always modders! Look what kind of great sound packs we already have for Lock On. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
ED Team Glowing_Amraam Posted July 3, 2008 ED Team Posted July 3, 2008 You can add and change the heli sounds if you want to, just as you could change the sounds in lock on. For my case, my KA-50 sounds exactly like it does in "Edge", or pretty close to it. 1 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgJRhtnqA-67pKmQ3A2GsgA ED youtube channel https://www.facebook.com/glowingamraam My facebook page
ED Team Glowing_Amraam Posted July 3, 2008 ED Team Posted July 3, 2008 Oh and, for this video: is there a high quality version of it somewhere? I'd love to record those sounds! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgJRhtnqA-67pKmQ3A2GsgA ED youtube channel https://www.facebook.com/glowingamraam My facebook page
Vekkinho Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 Glowing, I haven't seen hi res version of the particular video but there's a lot of similar stuff at: http://video.aviacia.ru/ IMO, Ka-50 sound it the video you asked about is pretty close to UH-1 Huey, isn't it?! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vekkinho Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 There's a good intro here, I believe sound quality you asked for is satisfying: Try this one too: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
hannibal Posted July 3, 2008 Author Posted July 3, 2008 5.1 hardware accelerated sound? ;) Dolby Digital and stuff ;) I don't think ED is actually working on new sound engine, let's just hope they'll make very good stock sound samples - if not - there are always modders! Look what kind of great sound packs we already have for Lock On. lol..5.1? we would like DCS black shark to be out soon, not in 10 years... all i am saying is to be accurate with the sounds...as i mentioned before, the current sounds heard on the prducers notes are weak... i like what glowing amraam used for his movie clips..they sound like a actually Ka-50. find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179
ED Team Glowing_Amraam Posted July 3, 2008 ED Team Posted July 3, 2008 There's a good intro here, I believe sound quality you asked for is satisfying: Ah yes, that chopper sound intro: I have the video where that sound originated from, and it is even higher quality. All those sounds were used in both Project 50 and edge. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgJRhtnqA-67pKmQ3A2GsgA ED youtube channel https://www.facebook.com/glowingamraam My facebook page
monotwix Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 An additional sound sample to any scene could make an incredible distinction. I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.
mikoyan Posted July 3, 2008 Posted July 3, 2008 I used to live in 3rd battalion of the city of cali colombia. I got used to see several types of helis over the years. the mi-17 was a sound beast with a mix of different sounds (hoaa!) the uh1h sound pretty similar to a ka-32 (the only one that we have) , but once it got closer you could heard the differences in the engine sounds. the uh-60 (makes a great noise too) if it is coming at you at low altitude and high speed; you could get surprised by them because you heard them only when they pass over your head:pilotfly:!
hannibal Posted July 3, 2008 Author Posted July 3, 2008 when i was in aviano...the EA-6B was a beast....u would hear the F-16 come in..like a ferarri...then the F-18's..comparable to a lamborgini... BUT THEN You have the EA-6B.. just tore up the tranquil skies...wasnt not like a sonic boom, just all engine roaring out. find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179
diveplane Posted July 8, 2008 Posted July 8, 2008 (edited) speaks for itself the new video at sim hq http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1FYIVMn9zs&fmt=18 Edited July 8, 2008 by diveplane https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
deviletk Posted July 10, 2008 Posted July 10, 2008 Im doing sounds for armed assault and are working on the ka50 atm. Its hard when the config is very limited and all material is from youtube etc. But its getting better and better. When it comes to weapons i got a lot of sounds, very realistic ones and will share with anyone wanting them. Im going to coninue to bring out a long good sample loop of the kamov and will ask someone here that have heard them in real life if its good enough :) Link: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GOq8e0VZkQo Regards Alex Regards Alex "Snuffer" D. AMD FX8350 (8 core) 4.1GHZ ::: 8GB Dominator 1600mhz ::: GTX660 2GB ::: 2xHD ::: 24" ASUS
diveplane Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Im doing sounds for armed assault and are working on the ka50 atm. Its hard when the config is very limited and all material is from youtube etc. But its getting better and better. When it comes to weapons i got a lot of sounds, very realistic ones and will share with anyone wanting them. Im going to coninue to bring out a long good sample loop of the kamov and will ask someone here that have heard them in real life if its good enough :) Link: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=GOq8e0VZkQo Regards Alex sound mod has already been produced . https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
hannibal Posted July 29, 2008 Author Posted July 29, 2008 Deviletk...nice vide..those sounds....THATS WHAT I AM TALKIN ABOUT find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179
AlphaOneSix Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 In my experience so far (watching Ka-32s take off and land several times a day) I can say that they sound just very similar to a Chinook. The sound in that vid sounds more like a lawnmower to me. I know I'm not being very helpful, so I apologize for that. If I had a way to record them I'd certainly do it.
kiss4luna Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 why not directly record and analysis what a real ka-50 would sound and do some digital sound processing? RTX 3070
ED Team Laivynas Posted July 30, 2008 ED Team Posted July 30, 2008 why not directly record and analysis what a real ka-50 would sound and do some digital sound processing? Because it won't do for a true helli sim. Helicopter sound is very complex and consists of: Engines sound (separate) Rotor blades sounds - low frequecy sound of general airflow and high frequency sound of blade tips. APU is also separate sound. Main problem is that these sounds never stay in constant ratio (only for constant speed and level flight or hover). In actual simulation we have nonstop transition of sound ratio. Reason for this is helli propulsion system construction. Engines are not hard linked with rotors, there fore we already have no constant ratio for sound system. PS. Sorry for my English. Hope, You'll understand what I mean. 1 Best Regards, Dmitry. "Чтобы дойти до цели, надо прежде всего идти." © О. Бальзак
VMFA117_Poko Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Understand. It's very complex sound. Same power on throttle can give different sound at different speed, altitude and for example g-force.
ED Team Laivynas Posted July 30, 2008 ED Team Posted July 30, 2008 (edited) Correct. ;) Current sound system allows piloting w/o watching at control gauges (engine RPM and main rotor RPM) - You'll simply hear them. Like driving a car without tachometer. Edited July 30, 2008 by Laivynas Best Regards, Dmitry. "Чтобы дойти до цели, надо прежде всего идти." © О. Бальзак
ThunderChief Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Will the sound be diffrent depending from where you look at the helicopter? I.E. louder engine sound if you are directly at the exhausts or less intense if you look from ahead?
ED Team Yo-Yo Posted July 30, 2008 ED Team Posted July 30, 2008 Will the sound be diffrent depending from where you look at the helicopter? I.E. louder engine sound if you are directly at the exhausts or less intense if you look from ahead? Yes, this feature was even in LO 1.0 so in DCS it will be too. Compressor and exhaust noise are different in regarding where you look from. By the way (Laivinas did not say) blades flapping sound is dynamic in DCS depending on several parameters of air flow throw the blade. Ніщо так сильно не ранить мозок, як уламки скла від розбитих рожевих окулярів There is nothing so hurtful for the brain as splinters of broken rose-coloured spectacles. Ничто так сильно не ранит мозг, как осколки стекла от разбитых розовых очков (С) Me
kiss4luna Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Because it won't do for a true helli sim. Helicopter sound is very complex and consists of: Engines sound (separate) Rotor blades sounds - low frequecy sound of general airflow and high frequency sound of blade tips. APU is also separate sound. Main problem is that these sounds never stay in constant ratio (only for constant speed and level flight or hover). In actual simulation we have nonstop transition of sound ratio. Reason for this is helli propulsion system construction. Engines are not hard linked with rotors, there fore we already have no constant ratio for sound system. PS. Sorry for my English. Hope, You'll understand what I mean. Ahhh:P I mean, separate every sub systems and analysis their sounds in all cases then use a digital sound processing function to dynamically simulate the sounds. Could it?:P RTX 3070
sobek Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 Ahhh:P I mean, separate every sub systems and analysis their sounds in all cases then use a digital sound processing function to dynamically simulate the sounds. Could it?:P Sound synthesis in real time would IMHO eat lots of CPU time, i think they use several loops which can be adjusted in pitch and amplitude. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
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