dresoccer4 Posted April 14, 2021 Posted April 14, 2021 Hi All - I'm curious if there's documentation on what these highlighted graphics options do exactly and how they affect performance. Can someone either explain the difference or point to a good explanation? Thanks. Acer Predator Triton 700 || i7-7700HQ || 512GB SSD || 32GB RAM || GTX1080 Max-Q || FFB II and Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle || All DCS Modules
unknown Posted April 14, 2021 Posted April 14, 2021 The only new option is SSAO, the other two options are already in since months/years(SSLR/SSAA) and documented in the DCS manual page 25. For SSAO https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_space_ambient_occlusion Modules: KA-50, A-10C, FC3, UH-1H, MI-8MTV2, CA, MIG-21bis, FW-190D9, Bf-109K4, F-86F, MIG-15bis, M-2000C, SA342 Gazelle, AJS-37 Viggen, F/A-18C, F-14, C-101, FW-190A8, F-16C, F-5E, JF-17, SC, Mi-24P Hind, AH-64D Apache, Mirage F1, F-4E Phantom II System: Win 11 Pro 64bit, Ryzen 3800X, 32gb RAM DDR4-3200, PowerColor Radeon RX 6900XT Red Devil ,1 x Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe, 2 x Samsung SSD 2TB + 1TB SATA, MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - VIRPIL T-50CM and VIRPIL MongoosT-50 Throttle - HP Reverg G2, using only the latest Open Beta, DCS settings
Canada_Moose Posted April 14, 2021 Posted April 14, 2021 Forest Detail Factor and Scenery Detail Factor are both new as well. Does the manual cover these options? (haven't had chance to look)
Supmua Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 The rendering in 2.7 looks so good with all these extra options, especially SSAO and cloud presets. Though already visually more pleasing in VR, it's even more breathtaking on a 4K flatscreen where you can appreciate the tiniest details, which can also be further enhanced via Reshade filters. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
Spetz Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Canada_Moose said: Forest Detail Factor and Scenery Detail Factor are both new as well. Does the manual cover these options? (haven't had chance to look) Forest Detail - From my tests, paused in my Hornet above a forest, looking down, it simply changes the detail, slight increase to amount and fullness of trees. Didn’t see any FPS hits on either minimum or maximum. Up high, can’t see the detail change. It did not change visibility distance of trees and that’s a different slider. Scenery Detail - same test. It changes some building shapes from smaller to a bit bigger, either adds or removes detail such as roof top A/C units, and adds or removes building side details such as brick work or fencing. Also saw a few shadow detail changes. No FPS hit noted between full left or right. Oh, and changes airfield antennas from actual antennas beside vehicles on high, to red and white safety columns on low. Edited April 15, 2021 by Spetz Add new info 1 1
Wychmaster Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 vor 4 Stunden schrieb Spetz: Forest Detail - From my tests, paused in my Hornet above a forest, looking down, it simply changes the detail, slight increase to amount and fullness of trees. Didn’t see any FPS hits on either minimum or maximum. Up high, can’t see the detail change. It did not change visibility distance of trees and that’s a different slider. Scenery Detail - same test. It changes some building shapes from smaller to a bit bigger, either adds or removes detail such as roof top A/C units, and adds or removes building side details such as brick work or fencing. Also saw a few shadow detail changes. No FPS hit noted between full left or right. Oh, and changes airfield antennas from actual antennas beside vehicles on high, to red and white safety columns on low. I guess those are just parameter that controls the distance when the LOD of an object is reduced to save processing power. So it heavily depends which part of your GPU is the limiting factor. If vertex processing isn't a problem, then you won't notice any frame differences. This should be the case for the people with up-to-date hardware.
Skysurfer Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 Has anyone done some tests with SSAO? Haven't really felt a performance or even noticeable visual difference.
Ala12Rv-watermanpc Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Skysurfer said: Has anyone done some tests with SSAO? Haven't really felt a performance or even noticeable visual difference. No pictures at the moment, but I can confirm it is working correctly just the effect is waaaayyyy too subtle. It should be much more evident (darker AND bigger radious). 3 Take a look at my MODS here
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 15, 2021 ED Team Posted April 15, 2021 Hi, if you hover your mouse over the option you should see a tool tip with a description of the option thanks 4 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
DucS2r Posted April 15, 2021 Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, BIGNEWY said: Hi, if you hover your mouse over the option you should see a tool tip with a description of the option thanks Thanks but that doesn’t work for me. Am I missing something? i9 14900, RTX 4090 24GB G DDR6X, 2x2 TB SSDs, 64GB Dual Channel DDR5 5200MT/s, Pimax Crystal Light
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 15, 2021 ED Team Posted April 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, DucS2r said: Thanks but that doesn’t work for me. Am I missing something? Apologies, it looks like it did not make it into open beta yet, soon you will be able to hover over the options to get a description of the option, you can see an example in gameplay settings in current open beta, it will apply to the main settings page in a future patch 2 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 15, 2021 ED Team Posted April 15, 2021 for a future update SSAA SSLR SSAO 4 5 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
hreich Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 And what are differences between cloud options /standard vs ultra? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Pilot from Croatia
Canada_Moose Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 1 hour ago, hreich said: And what are differences between cloud options /standard vs ultra? In VR it appears to make zero difference what this slider is set at. 2D is a different story......
hreich Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 @Canada_Moose Can you explain? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Pilot from Croatia
S. Low Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 Hey newy it’d be pretty nifty if those pop up tool tips said which thing it affects more, CPU or GPU. I like that you’re including in the SSAO tip that it’s a “big” gpu hit. helps people figure out what settings they need to adjust 3
audiodistortion Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) SSAO looks very nice - for me it's about a 10% performance drop. ULTRA clouds - only about a 5FPS drop compared to normal. I can live without the SSAO for the performance, but the ULTRA clouds are well worth the small drop. Overall, what an update, wow. Old i7 980X CPU @ 4.4 Nvidia Titan X Pascal (12GB) 24GB RAM 3440x1440 Edited April 16, 2021 by audiodistortion 2
unltd Posted May 3, 2021 Posted May 3, 2021 Is SSAO working in VR? Ryzen 5950x PBO | MSI RTX 3090 | 32gb 3600 RAM | 2 x SSD | Quest 3 | TM Warthog
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