Caldera Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 Hey All, I am boggled a bit on this one... So with the HMD as SOI then DMS Right Long is to Slave TGP to HMD. But it gets weird... HMD SOI - Start of test range mission --> Use of DMS RL I get the TGP dotted box that I can slew. I can see the box move with the HMD as well as the the TGP. TGP SOI - Find and mark my target HMD SOI - Use of DMS RL Now I get just a diamond, the TGP is looking at MRK A and it is the SPI. I can not slew the diamond. HMD SOI - Use of DMS RL then use of TMS UL This will put another diamond down and it becomes the SPI. From this point on anytime I try to move the TGP with the HMD by using DMS RL it will just put down another diamond and make it SPI. If I make the TGP SOI and slew it I can see the TGP image changing but the HMD does not reflect this and I have no idea where the TGP is actually looking. One of the main utilities of the HMD just went down the toilet with some other stuff... My question: How do I get back to the mode where I just get the slewable dotted diamond box as in the first picture? Caldera
Foka Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 Dotted box represents TGP field of view. In the first screen you're probably in Wide and zoomed out, then I can see, you're in Narrow and zoomed x4. Look thru HMD on you target with TGP SOI and play with zoom and you'll see what I mean. The diamond is the center of TGP field of view.
Caldera Posted July 17, 2021 Author Posted July 17, 2021 Thanks, What about the 4th and 5th pictures where just the diamond appears and not FOV dotted lines. Caldera
Foka Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 4- When HMD is SOI you cant slew the TGP aka diamond, you're slewing a HMD "marker" - thr cross bottom left of Mark A. If you press DMS RL (and one of the MFDs is TGP) it will slew TGP to the cross 5 - What do you mean by "another dimond"? There are no two dimonds. I guess you didn't quite get the SPI and SOI idea of A-10C logic. SOI - Sensor Of Intrest - it's the sensor you're manipulating using HOTAS commands SPI - Sensors Point of Intrest - there is always one and only one SPI and it's marked by white "wedding cake" On 4th screen the SPI is steerpoint - MRK A. On 5th screen SPI is the TGP.
jaylw314 Posted July 18, 2021 Posted July 18, 2021 (edited) It looks like you're zoomed too far in on the TGP: Image 1 - zoomed out all the way, the dotted box shows TGP FOV Image 2 & 3 - zoomed in all the way, the dotted box has collapsed on the diamond so it's no longer visible. The TGP FOV is about a runway width, which would be appropriate. Image 4 - Can't explain. TGP is still looking at green diamond (with green square collapsed on it because it's zoomed in). It is NOT looking at the markpoint--the SPI is on the markpoint, suggesting either your SPI is STPT, or HMCS is SOI + SPI and you just made a markpoint Image 5 - Can't explain. If HMCS is SOI, TMS right short should make a markpoint at the HDC, not the TGP diamond. Suspect TGP is actually SOI Didn't this thing about not seeing the TGP FOV because it's zoomed in too far come up before? Also realize, if you're zoomed in all the way, if TGP is SOI and you try to slew, the diamond moves VERY slowly in the HMCS and HUD. Zoom out and you'll see it slew faster One other gotcha--DMS right long ALWAYS slaves the TGP to the HMCS EXCEPT when MAV is SOI. It attempts to slave the MAV seeker to HMCS if possible, but does not slave the TGP. Edited July 18, 2021 by jaylw314
Caldera Posted July 18, 2021 Author Posted July 18, 2021 Thanks guys, This It looks like you're zoomed too far in on the TGP That was my problem. I had the TGP zoomed in to max on Narrow. Caldera
ASAP Posted October 23, 2021 Posted October 23, 2021 You also don't need to make HMCS SOI in order to use your DMS right long to slew it to HMCS line of sight. Leave your TGP SOI and just use the HMCS to get it into an area and then look inside to slew it around and zoom in. In my experience jumping around between different sensors of interest unnecessarily gets you into a HOTAS PIO and everything gets harder than it has to be.
lee1hy Posted January 4 Posted January 4 looks like not working any more DMS right long not following HMD, kim_123456#3214 My awesome liveries user files https://shorturl.at/cdKV5
Priest Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Hmm works fine here. DMS right long (regardless of SOI) slews TGP to HMCS current line of sight. Is your TGP in AG mode? 1
Yurgon Posted January 4 Posted January 4 4 hours ago, lee1hy said: looks like not working any more DMS right long not following HMD, Track or it didn't happen.
jaylw314 Posted January 5 Posted January 5 On 1/4/2025 at 1:33 AM, lee1hy said: looks like not working any more DMS right long not following HMD, Your MAV page is SOI. DMS right long attempts to slave the Maverick seeker to HMD in that case
ASAP Posted January 6 Posted January 6 6 hours ago, jaylw314 said: Your MAV page is SOI. DMS right long attempts to slave the Maverick seeker to HMD in that case DMS right hold is SOI agnostic, it should slave the HMCS even if the Maverick is SOI.
Yurgon Posted January 6 Posted January 6 3 hours ago, ASAP said: DMS right hold is SOI agnostic, it should slave the HMCS even if the Maverick is SOI. According to the module manual, MAV is the only SOI that won't slave the TGP to HMCS line of sight, and will instead slave the Mav seeker to it. 1 1
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