correct as is TGP to AGM-65D Problems

[Cerulean]

I am having real problems with the AGM-65D when paired with a TGP.  I have to get so close to successfully transfer a lock from the TGP to the AGM-65D that I might as well drop the TGP most of the time.  I mostly fly the A10C and FA-18.  Their AGMs seem to lock much more reliably.  I am wondering, am I doing something wrong with the F-16's AGM-65Ds (maybe need to develop better technique) or do the locking problems reflect a lack of development?

[BIGNEWY]

Hi,

 

Have you boresight the maverick 

 

[Cerulean]

1 hour ago, BIGNEWY said:

Hi,

 

Have you boresight the maverick 

 

I haven't studied that yet. I'll take a look.

[Marklar]

Start in the air when mavs are already bore-sighted and used them as before. I bet they will lock without a problem.

[TOViper]

Today I started cold. I boresighted all Mavericks before take-off, but in flight I wasn't able to get a lock by the Maverick.

The handover from TGP to the weapon DID work and it placed the seeker head on target, but I wasn't able to deliver the weapon.

Instead, I had to switch to the WPN page, press TMS up once more, then the lock was active (vibrating lines), and only THEN I was able to deliver the weapon on target. Distance to target was far below 5 miles.

Was in MP, so I have no track.

 

Edited July 22, 2021 by TOViper

[Frederf]

MP will save a track in a separate folder \Tracks\Multiplayer but of course they tend to be much longer and larger than dedicated bug tracks. If you can replicate this handoff which doesn't result in ability to fire missile again it will be good to share such a track. I've never had an instance of handoff complete but inability to fire. Requiring WPN SOI and additional designate suggests the handoff didn't happen normally.

[TOViper]

Here we go.

 

The TMSup for enabling POINT track right on target didn't make the AGM65D seeker head to aquire the target.

I tried firing the weapon, bit without luck.

A few seconds later I manually switched to the WPN page, and pressed TMSup again.

Only then it was possible to deliver the weapon.

 

The only way seems to be using the AUTO mode of the TGP.

In MAN mode it doesn't work. This at least is written in the manual (finally I found the correct page).

 

For me this is solved.

 

 

2021-07-23_F-16_TGP_not_locking_AGM65D.trk

Edited July 23, 2021 by TOViper

[Frederf]

No

Yes

 

You're looking for the "C" over the 3/7 number. You only had a "T" because handoff didn't complete because TGP wasn't in AUTO. This is also a bug in DCS where TGP acquisition mode MAN/AUTO determines if handoff fails/works. In reality this was an experimental feature of the TGP which had nothing to do with missile handoff. But in DCS missile handoff only works with "AUTO" option.

[Machalot]

@Frederf What is the real life difference between auto and manual?

[Frederf]

"As far as the access of the MAN and AUTO target acquisition modes ,I'm pretty sure it exists only on the LANTRIN and on the early version of the SNIPER, where it has been replaced by the IR pointer. The display initializes in the MAN mode whenever the A-G or A-A mode is selected. The AUTO mode is a growth function and is currently not functional. Pilots are advised not to select AUTO as it may cause an MFL."

[TOViper]

Thanks Frederf for bringing some light into thehh darknessss

Maintenance or pilot, if I may ask?

 

[QuiGon]

I don't understand. What's the purpose of MAN mode then (in DCS)?

Edited July 25, 2021 by QuiGon