carss Posted July 27, 2021 Posted July 27, 2021 Since there are planes in development that are older than the ones we currently have that are also Carrier capable like the F-8 Crusader or the community A-4 or others that maybe made, so I imagine these planes will be made Supercarrier capable. Now the ground crew is designed to hook up newer planes like the F-14 and the F/A-18 to the catapult, so how will these planes get hooked onto the catapults since they hook up differently using things like catapult bridle or holdback pendant? They don't use launch bars or holdback bars like the F/A-18s do, so will the ground crew be fixed to hook up planes like these onto the catapult? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry:
Stearmandriver Posted July 27, 2021 Posted July 27, 2021 As far as I know, the last time I tried the A-4 with the Supercarrier it WAS compatible. I'm not sure every external visual animation, like hooking up the holdback etc, worked perfectly... but you got marshaled onto the cat, given the runup signal, and launched. 1
Raisuli Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 Is it worth the time and money to animate a bridle and holdback pendant or should that time and expense go to putting an A-7 on the deck and let the deck crew work it out? As long as you have flying speed off the front of the boat how you got there is pretty much PFM anyway. Not saying it shouldn't be on the list, but from a software perspective I'd question the priority
carss Posted July 28, 2021 Author Posted July 28, 2021 4 hours ago, Raisuli said: Is it worth the time and money to animate a bridle and holdback pendant or should that time and expense go to putting an A-7 on the deck and let the deck crew work it out? As long as you have flying speed off the front of the boat how you got there is pretty much PFM anyway. Not saying it shouldn't be on the list, but from a software perspective I'd question the priority I'm just curious about it for in the future, and we will be getting some Cold war era Carriers too like the Forrestal so why not? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Planes: FC3, P-51, F-86, F-5E, Mirage 2000, F/A-18, F-14, F-16, Mig-19P :joystick: ED pls gib A-4 and F-4 :cry:
draconus Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 According to wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_catapult#Bridle_catchers the CVN-65 was the last one to use the bridle catchers so the subject doesn't even belong to SC forum. F-8J would have to launch from Forrestal then and A-7E is already SC compatible: 1 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Bremspropeller Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 Bridle catchers only catch the bridle. If you're game dumping the bridle on each launch, you can. 1 So ein Feuerball, JUNGE!
Tank50us Posted July 28, 2021 Posted July 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Bremspropeller said: Bridle catchers only catch the bridle. If you're game dumping the bridle on each launch, you can. They just need to make it a 'hidden object' like the wheel chocks, intake covers, and 'remove before flight' flags already on some aircraft modules. 1
FlyingTaco21 Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 A lot of those older aircrsft didn't have nosewheel steering either. The a4e didn't but they added a feature of newer model for ease of use. Forget what the device the ground crew used to direct them with was called, but it probably will be a feature of the hb forrestal when we get that. Don't think a4s ever operated off the newer Nimitz class ships. There was a study done back in the 80s about bring back Oriskany as a light attack carriervwith only a4ms because everythingvelse was too heavy... thryvnever did that... and the Lexington was used up into the early 90s as training carrier and it might hsve operated the training variant of the A4... and there is woek going on for an essex class so we might see a scb update at sone point... but thr only nuke it makes sense to hsve that gear on is the old enterprise and earlier Nimitzes. A4, f8 maybe a vigilante used bridles as well. Not sure of A7.
Jackjack171 Posted July 29, 2021 Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) On 7/28/2021 at 4:14 AM, draconus said: According to wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_catapult#Bridle_catchers the CVN-65 was the last one to use the bridle catchers so the subject doesn't even belong to SC forum. F-8J would have to launch from Forrestal then and A-7E is already SC compatible: Honestly, it was the Truman CVN-75 that was the last to use the bridle system. She was the last to fling T-2C's into the air in July of 2003, before that aircrafts retirement. So technically, if ED wanted to play it, they could! buckeye.pdf (navy.mil) The Forrestal class from Heatblur would be ideal for all of this though! Edited July 29, 2021 by Jackjack171 DO it or Don't, but don't cry about it. Real men don't cry!
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