"Official" F-4E Livery Discussion

[II.JG1_Vonrd]

Here's 37+22 in worn Norm 90J. I was planning to do it next in Norm 72 and I was sure that I'd seen photos of it as such but can't find it now, so I might have to substitute a different number. Link: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3343179/

[kotor633]

One of the nicest skins we have for the German PhantomII here in DCS World. Thank you for that.

[II.JG1_Vonrd]

Thank you, much appreciated!

[II.JG1_Vonrd]

Posted in the comments section of the User Files post:

Gr4v3d1gg3r1986

02/08/2025 23:30:58

Awesome livery, but the Phantom pilots in Germany used mostly the HGU 55 helmet at 2010 not the HGU 2 .
But still a very very nice livery, especially the used look .

I tried to post a link to photographic evidence but links don't work in the comment section in User Files.

Thanks for the compliment. I have to disagree about the helmets used in this particular aircraft at the time that the reference photos were taken. Zooming in clearly shows them wearing some variant of HG 2.

Edited February 10 by II.JG1_Vonrd

[Yannick Pancake]

As far as I know it's actually a HGU 55 Version, the HGU 55G, but we don't have it in DCS and it looks pretty close to the HGU 2. The only real optical difference I can tell is that the visor adjustment is on the left side, not central. 

[Volator]

I agree, these are HGU-55s used in the GAF from the late 80s on.

[II.JG1_Vonrd]

Well, I guess that I stand corrected but the HGU-55 in DCS does not look like the ones shown in the photo. The photo looks closer to the HGU-2 so I'm going to leave it as is.

[Yannick Pancake]

This is what I meant, even though it's not a 55, the HGU 2 looks close enough to me and certainly better than the DCS 55

[LanceCriminal86]

The HGU-55G is planned eventually with a more proper German pilot.

[aaronwhite]

On 2/9/2025 at 4:47 PM, II.JG1_Vonrd said:

Here's 37+22 in worn Norm 90J. I was planning to do it next in Norm 72 and I was sure that I'd seen photos of it as such but can't find it now, so I might have to substitute a different number. Link: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3343179/

Beautiful work! Gotta love a filthy Phantom. 

[Devil 505]

On 1/13/2025 at 10:22 AM, Devil 505 said:

Looking for some talented Livery designers looking for free work. LOL. The boys and I are in desperate need for some USMC Phantom liveries to go in our Vietnam experience in the video below.  We created a section for the USMC out of Andersen with A-4 and will populate with Crusaders and Intruders when they release.  I was hoping to be able to put client F-4E's along with some statics on deck until a proper USMC variant is released by Heatblur.  I was wondering if anyone would be willing to make some USMC skins for Heatblurs F-4.  Not to interested in the VSN mod. Below are a few examples of what we would be looking for but open to suggestions.  You can see where I will be placing the F-4's in the video.

 

 

 

Just thought I would repost my old thread and throw a hook in the water again to see if anyone is interested in making some USMC Vietnam Era liveries for the old girl.  We are in desperate need for some to place in our Vietnam Mission.

[ContinuedMayhem2020]

WIP Helmets and Patches for 32nd TFS.  57th FIS patches and wing tanks. Obviously, I'm no pro, but ya gotta start someplace...

 

[Oban]

Dear Heatblur,

Any update on the livery template ?

[Zabuzard]

4 hours ago, Oban said:

Any update on the livery template ?

nope

[Ghostmaker]

On 4/6/2022 at 1:11 PM, ChrispyBacon89 said:

I know it isn't an E variant but any time I think of the Phantom its usually in either the USN paint jobs of the 1960s and 70s or in this:

Has anyone done a livery for this one yet? As a fictionary?

[aaronwhite]

On 2/28/2025 at 2:43 PM, Ghostmaker said:

Has anyone done a livery for this one yet? As a fictionary?

I didn't see anything in the User Files for the Royal Navy. Someone did make some RAF ones if those are of interest: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3339149/

Maybe I'll try and crack off a Royal Navy F-4 later this week if I can find some free time! I haven't tried any F-4 skins yet. 

[Ghostmaker]

Thank you for the link. If you get chance have a go. Id love that skin

Edited March 3 by Ghostmaker

[Gözcü]

[II.JG1_Vonrd]

Depicted is a Luftwaffe F-4F-53-MC, 38+66, SN 72-1276, CN 4784 of JG71 painted in NORM 72 camouflage with red rudder, stabilizer tips and fuselage patch to ease identification during air combat training. As photographed during the 1979 Neuburg air show. 

It would subsequently be one of the Phantoms in the "Phantom Pharewell" send-off celebration on June 27, 2013 at Wittmundhafen Air Base, Germany. All Phantoms were subsequently retired from service with the Luftwaffe.

This depiction was based on the default skin "37+36_N72_JG74" with some variation of the camouflage as noted in period photographs of this particular airframe.

Some items of note:
* All placards / stencils re-done in text and graphic vectors.
* Crew given period orange flight suits with appropriate patches and orange flight suit visible in the the first person pilot view. The default command to turn the pilot body on / off is LShft+P.
* Crew given period Luftwaffe side caps (garrison caps).
* Crew's gloves specified as white gloves by custom args and gloves depicted as worn and grimy.
* Engine exhausts darkened to reflect the appearance in period photographs.

Colors match the default skin "37+36_N72_JG74" and were kindly provided by Ben_Der.
RAL 9006 Weissaluminium: a1a1a0
FS 34079 Forrest Green: 3e3a30
RAL 7012 Basaltgrau: 525658

RAL 9006 Weissaluminium has a RGB 204 / hex cccccc Value of Metallic in the Blue Roughness Channel

Link: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3343745/

[Santus]

On 7/5/2024 at 11:32 AM, ehlw1993 said:

We really need a more dirty and worn out Greek Phantom. Is this already possible to make?

The Greek liveries are too clean!

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3344324/

Perhaps you will find this to your liking.

As I have also mentioned in the liveries-lair channel on Heatblur's Discord, I really hope that at some point, their livery team will revisit the Hellenic Aegean Ghost liveries. Respectfully I would like to point out that the hues (especially FS35237) are way too vibrant compared to the real aircraft.

[LanceCriminal86]

Maybe it's a contrast thing but the "35237" used on their F-4s just doesn't seem to jive with the same shade as used on things like the Tomcat and other Navy aircraft. Maybe it's the juxtaposition of the other colors but the HAF one always has seemed far more "blue" to me. I had experimented with using the same shade as I had used on Tomcats and it just didn't look right.

Other big issues is trying to find good HAF jet shots where folks haven't blown out the contrast or gone with "HDR" or faux HDR style shots where the balance is completely out of whack to emphasize all the grunge. The middle shot seems to be better balanced at least.

[II.JG1_Vonrd]

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3344525/

Edited April 27 by II.JG1_Vonrd

[The-Dude]

One of the included paints in real life: