Where on IHAADS or TDS screen is distance to target shown?

[DmitriKozlowsky]

Where on IHAADS or TDS screen is distance to lased target (by George CP/G) is shown?

Right now the distance to the right of W# in IHAADS is distance to route point , not target.

Switching TDS to ATK from NAV does not resolve question.

Nor can I make out the distance to target on TADS display.

[Raptor9]

@DmitriKozlowsky, you really really need to read the manual. Not only would that answer almost every single question you've posted in this sub-thread, but it would also prevent you from posting erroneous bug reports of correct behavior.

[admiki]

[NEECH]

7 hours ago, Raptor9 said:

@DmitriKozlowsky, you really really need to read the manual. Not only would that answer almost every single question you've posted in this sub-thread, but it would also prevent you from posting erroneous bug reports of correct behavior.

Yeah the manual is daunting but read a little on a section you’re interested in learning. Just 10 minutes here and there and you’ll find you’ll learn more than just posting here and waiting for answers. 

[StrongHarm]

RTFM is an initialism and internet slang for the expression "read the f#$&ing manual" – typically used to reply to a basic question where the answer is easily found in the documentation, user guide, owner's manual, man page, online help, internet forum, software documentation or FAQ.  Usage is variously viewed as a pointed reminder of etiquette to try to find a solution before posting to a mass forum or email alias;[1] helping a noob to improve themselves;[2] as a useless response;[3] or as a hostile and elitist response.[4] Polite usages would mention where one has looked when asking a question, and to provide an exact location or link where exactly to RTFM.

Why I RTFM, by StrongHarm McGillicuddy:
(intention is helpful, not condescending)

I did a poll on this forum back in like 2010 to see how many people actually read the manual.  It was something like 10% "No", 40% "Read it all the way through", 40% "Read what I had to and that's all".  When speaking with people I can usually tell if they've RTFM.  Not by their high level of knowledge, but rather by their low level of frustration.  My personal equation on the matter goes like this; patience will be required no matter which route I take.  If I choose the RTFM route, I'm looking at 2 or 3 days of patience required to make it through a technical manual.  If I choose to not RTFM, I'm looking at 6-12 months (probably more) of frustration while I ask questions in MP or a forum.... to become 30% capable.  I read the manual front to back before I even start the bird up.  Then I use the manual as a reference as I'm learning each subsystem.

Fortunately, I don't have learning disabilities or reading problems, but if I did I'd seek a solution.  When the A-10 was in testing I read the manual all the way through, and then I recorded the "text to speech" of the whole manual and let it run on repeat on my mancave stereo.  Not only did it sound cool and go with my motif, it pounded the details into my head.  Why go to such lengths for a video game, you might ask.  I don't want to be one of those "overly semantic about words" guys, but they're right when they say that DCS isn't a game.  It's a simulation... with game modes.  What's more is that it consists of "Game Sim" models and "Study Sim" flight models (i.e. A-10A / A-10C).  I prefer the Study Sims because I love the technical details of each bird, and I'm all about sitting in the cockpit on the ground and learning every little nook and cranny.  I'm of the demographic that ED made the PFM for.  If I only wanted to "blow stuff up" I'd find that ED created the SFM for me, which doesn't require me to RTFM, or really to study at all.

So, Strongharm, you must know it all and have zero questions then?  Hardly.  Back before the forums became so toxic, I asked thousands of questions... but I always had some basis of knowledge on the subject, gained by RTFM.  Today, I believe that I'm receiving the full benefit of my RTFM by experiencing a small bit of what the Pilots of these birds really experience; competence, confidence, and amazing capabilities.  If I didn't RTFM, I feel my experience would be diminished to 50% or less.

[Dragon1-1]

Yup, manuals FTW. Everything that's not explained in the training missions can be found there. So is everything that is explained in the training missions, in case you forget. It's good to read it in order to not just learn how, but also why. This kind of thing pays off, particularly in modern aircraft, where there's really a lot to learn and understand. Oldies are more straightforward once you know how they work under the hood, but MFDs often feature logic that makes perfect sense only after it's explained to you.

[dburne]

Well crap, guess I am going to have to start actually reading the manuals.

[Dallas88B]

A quick RTFM story. In the 1980's I worked in a Computer Bureau (before every company had their own mainframe and before PC's on every desk). My boss replied to a question with RTFM. A standard reply in the Information Technology industry in those days. This was also pretty funny since the 'manual' for this piece of kit was about 6 lever arch binders of several hundred pages each. When the retort was yes thanks very much for that he said something like : Binder 2, page 275, about half way down the page. 
Turns out he had a near photographic memory.

I have never forgot RTFM.

Edited July 29, 2022 by Dallas88B
Fixed typo

[TobiasA]

I came here for asking a stupid N00b question after reading the manual, specifically the chapter "Sensors and sights".

George is my CP/G. He has Hellfires selected, I have the gun. I have TADS selected as ACQ. So I have the gun to follow my HMD/PNVS and George is doing his thing with Hellfires.

Is the only option to see George's TADS range to have the TADS as ACQ selected?

[Raptor9]

19 minutes ago, TobiasA said:

Is the only option to see George's TADS range to have the TADS as ACQ selected?

The only time that the CPG's range should be displayed in the Pilot's symbology is when the crew is in COOP rocket mode. Other than that, you would need to display the CPG's TADS video on an MPD to see what his range is.

The current behavior of the CPG laser range showing in the Pilot symbology when ACQ is set to TADS is a bug that occurred in the past couple weeks, and has been reported.

[TobiasA]

vor 13 Minuten schrieb Raptor9:

The only time that the CPG's range should be displayed in the Pilot's symbology is when the crew is in COOP rocket mode. Other than that, you would need to display the CPG's TADS video on an MPD to see what his range is.

The current behavior of the CPG laser range showing in the Pilot symbology when ACQ is set to TADS is a bug that occurred in the past couple weeks, and has been reported.

That makes sense. Thanks a lot!

[M1Combat]

Great thread

[DmitriKozlowsky]

CP/G should call out range after pilot instructs to lase/engage. Right now, he only reports out of range. When in range "Lasing target, range 3250 meters". Combined with tgt cross on pilot TADS, builds situational awareness quickly. Its tempting to cheat with labels, as range is displayed, but it degrades realism. Ironic if real world HUD or helmet displayed instant target , range, and friendly/threat color, that would be G*d send to warfighters.

My biggest issue with AH-64D module is that everything that has to do with CP/G and threat engagement is far way too slow and unreliable. "Engaging" then 5 seconds later no fire still. There is a trick that I hit upon by accident to get George to fire gun quicker. After selecting the target, tell George to engage. Immediately switch to gun and fire few rounds. Tell George to engage again. He does it within 1 or 2 seconds.  Does not always work as advertised, but its an improvement. Rockets fire your self. Leave Hellfires to George.

[bradmick]

Or you just make the target that’s being engaged your navigation fly to cue (direct-to/home plate symbol) to get range and bearing info. Assuming your cpg was a good cpg and stored the target…

 

A great cpg stores the target and then makes it the active fly to by default, so the pilot doesn’t have to.

Edited August 4, 2022 by bradmick

[DmitriKozlowsky]

On 8/4/2022 at 3:59 AM, bradmick said:

Or you just make the target that’s being engaged your navigation fly to cue (direct-to/home plate symbol) to get range and bearing info. Assuming your cpg was a good cpg and stored the target…

 

A great cpg stores the target and then makes it the active fly to by default, so the pilot doesn’t have to.

 

We don't have great CP/G. We got George.

[StrongHarm]

Yeah, George is pretty young.  I read that they're adding Mark Target to his commands in the future.  What I do is switch to the CPG and take care of it myself.  Switching between seats was kind of a pain at first, but now that I'm used to it, it's second nature.  Another thing I like to do is make TADS my Acquisition Source, then I can see where the target is by the cross on the TSD.  I then estimate the range using the grid.  This is much easier for me when I have the map in DIG A/C mode because landmarks are more intuitive.

On a somewhat related note, I used the app Voice Activated Commands to create voice activated profiles for the Pilot and Copilot's seat.  If I say "Switch to Gunners Seat" it changes to that speech profile, then hits the button to switch seats.  I then have a full set of voice commands to give the pilot.  I can switch back to the pilot profile and seat by saying "Switch to Pilot Seat".  The best thing about it is you can combine a long series of commands, such as "Gunner attack the next target", or "Pilot evade the area".  I'll make a vid and post it here in case anyone's interested.

[skypickle]

@StrongHarm"I used the app Voice Activated Commands"

Are you referring to voice attack, vaicom or something else?

[StrongHarm]

VAC (Voice Activated Commands).  It can be found at dwvac.com.  It doesn't have as big of a following as the others, but I find it superior.  I can write very complex multistage commands, then speak with my pipe in my teeth and it still understands me.  I'm waiting for the first big addition to the George commands before I share my voice profiles for Pilot, Gunner, ATC.  I made the mistake of sharing too early with the A-10C.

[corbu1]

vor 19 Minuten schrieb StrongHarm:

VAC (Voice Activated Commands).  It can be found at dwvac.com.  It doesn't have as big of a following as the others, but I find it superior.  I can write very complex multistage commands, then speak with my pipe in my teeth and it still understands me.  I'm waiting for the first big addition to the George commands before I share my voice profiles for Pilot, Gunner, ATC.  I made the mistake of sharing too early with the A-10C.

Thanks for the heads-up to this app. I‘ll give it a try…..