fixed [FIXED] Loss of sound

[Flappie]

Interesting, I've read a thread about another Hornet sound issue this morning:

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/306452-f18-cockpit-sounds/#comment-5023179

Are you also experiencing described issue with the Hornet? (I'm away from my PC)

Edited August 6, 2022 by Flappie

[LCO489]

On 8/4/2022 at 5:29 PM, Flappie said:

Many thanks. It sounds like a totally different aircraft engine! If somebody can identify which aircraft this engine sound comes from, it might help us understand what's going on.

Our Mirage F1:

 

 

And the impostor:

 

Could that be the Su-25T?

 

Sounds a lot like the JF-17 wich i got, but i'm not having sound problems with the F1 sounds.

[Magoote]

Same folder, identical files
The change was definitely after the last update.

Edited August 6, 2022 by Magoote

[Magoote]

I show in these two videos one on the ground and one in the air.
The sound is definitely constant, low and without variation with AB.

 

 

[AJ_Daubz]

I have pretty much the same issue after the patch. The engine noise inside the cockpit is barely audible even with the hear like in helmet option unchecked. The afterburner sound also now sounds like a lot more generic, and not the distinctive sound it made on release. I've never heard a mirage irl so I'm not sure which sound is the correct one, but the cockpit volume is definitely way too low. 

[Flappie]

Can two or three affected users follow these simple steps please? It will help diagnosis. Thanks in advance.

1. Download attach autoexec.cfg and copy it to your "Saved Games/DCS.../Config" folder (it will create a detailed sound log file called "sound.log" everytime you play DCS).
2. Download attached track.
3. Start DCS.
4. Click REPLAY,  then load the track you just downloaded and play it.
5. At the end of the track (it lasts for 3 or 4 minutes), exit the debriefing screen, then exit DCS.
6. Attach the "sound.log" found in "Saved Games/DCS.../Logs" folder.

autoexec.cfg F1CE enginre sounds test.trk

[gulredrel]

4 hours ago, Flappie said:

Can two or three affected users follow these simple steps please? It will help diagnosis. Thanks in advance.

1. Download attach autoexec.cfg and copy it to your "Saved Games/DCS.../Config" folder (it will create a detailed sound log file called "sound.log" everytime you play DCS).
2. Download attached track.
3. Start DCS.
4. Click REPLAY,  then load the track you just downloaded and play it.
5. At the end of the track (it lasts for 3 or 4 minutes), exit the debriefing screen, then exit DCS.
6. Attach the "sound.log" found in "Saved Games/DCS.../Logs" folder.

autoexec.cfg 106 B · 3 downloads F1CE enginre sounds test.trk 63.56 kB · 0 downloads

Please find sound.log attached.

multiple entries "effects\aircrafts\engines\su27frontengine2" and "su25frontengine" or " COCKPIT_MAIN:su25inengine", but button clicks coming from mirage-f1:

[schnipp]
2022-08-08 16:25:23.205: MeteoDispatcher/main:field: dt = 32.457000, offset = 32.457000
2022-08-08 16:25:23.226: sound del: "effects\aircrafts\mirage-f1\cockpit\devices\left_console\start_button_cover_close" now = 32.976000, sched = 32.966745
2022-08-08 16:25:23.226: MeteoDispatcher/main:background: dt = 32.976000, offset = 32.976000
2022-08-08 16:25:23.226: MeteoDispatcher/main:field: dt = 32.477000, offset = 32.477000
2022-08-08 16:25:23.247: MeteoDispatcher/main:background: dt = 32.998000, offset = 32.998000
2022-08-08 16:25:23.247: MeteoDispatcher/main:field: dt = 32.499000, offset = 32.499000
2022-08-08 16:25:23.268: MeteoDispatcher/main:background: dt = 33.019000, offset = 33.019000
2022-08-08 16:25:23.268: MeteoDispatcher/main:field: dt = 32.520000, offset = 32.520000
2022-08-08 16:25:23.268: woLA-16777472:su25frontengine2: dt = 0.000000, offset = 0.000000
2022-08-08 16:25:23.268: woLA-16777472:su25frontengine: dt = 0.000000, offset = 0.000000
2022-08-08 16:25:23.268: voice add: "effects\aircrafts\engines\su27frontengine2" started = 32.998000, offset = 0.000000, now = 33.019000
[...]
2022-08-08 16:25:59.670: COCKPIT_MAIN:su25inheambl: dt = 33.385750, offset = 33.385750
2022-08-08 16:25:59.670: woLA-16777472:su25aroundengine: dt = 32.791430, offset = 32.791430
2022-08-08 16:25:59.670: COCKPIT_SWITCHES:clickbuttonon: dt = 0.000000, offset = 0.000000
2022-08-08 16:25:59.670: voice add: "effects\aircrafts\cockpits\clickbuttonon_3" started = 69.398000, offset = 0.000000, now = 69.420000
2022-08-08 16:25:59.691: sound del: "effects\aircrafts\mirage-f1\cockpit\devices\right_main_panel_console\conv_center_switch" now = 69.442000, sched = 69.432874
2022-08-08 16:25:59.691: MeteoDispatcher/main:background: dt = 69.442000, offset = 69.442000
2022-08-08 16:25:59.691: MeteoDispatcher/main:field: dt = 68.943000, offset = 68.943000
2022-08-08 16:25:59.691: woLA-16777472:su25frontengine2: dt = 36.434430, offset = 36.434430
2022-08-08 16:25:59.691: COCKPIT_MAIN:su25inenginel: dt = 36.273750, offset = 36.273750
2022-08-08 16:25:59.691: woLA-16777472:su25frontengine: dt = 36.434430, offset = 36.434430
2022-08-08 16:25:59.691: woLA-16777472:su25backengine: dt = 36.509643, offset = 36.509643
2022-08-08 16:25:59.691: COCKPIT_MAIN:su25inheambl: dt = 33.407750, offset = 33.407750
2022-08-08 16:25:59.691: woLA-16777472:su25aroundengine: dt = 32.813430, offset = 32.813430
[schnapp]

 

sound.log.zip

Edited August 8, 2022 by gulredrel
added some detail

[Flappie]

Many thanks, @gulredrel!

I also see Su-27 sounds:

2022-08-08 16:27:29.993: sound del: "effects\aircrafts\engines\su27frontengine2" now = 159.510000, sched = 163.918546
2022-08-08 16:27:29.993: voice kill: "effects\aircrafts\engines\su27frontengine2" started = 32.998000, offset = 126.448958, now = 159.510000

My log only contains "snecma_atar"-labeled sounds.

We still don't know why only some users are affected, but the issue is now reported anyway.

Flappie_OpenBetB_atar_sound.zip

[Jacodv201]

sound.zip

[gulredrel]

6 minutes ago, Flappie said:

Many thanks, @gulredrel!

I also see Su-27 sounds:

2022-08-08 16:27:29.993: sound del: "effects\aircrafts\engines\su27frontengine2" now = 159.510000, sched = 163.918546
2022-08-08 16:27:29.993: voice kill: "effects\aircrafts\engines\su27frontengine2" started = 32.998000, offset = 126.448958, now = 159.510000

My log only contains "snecma_atar"-labeled sounds.

We still don't know why only some users are affected, but the issue is now reported anyway.

Flappie_OpenBetB_atar_sound.zip 642.98 kB · 0 downloads

I hope you will find the culprit

I lately watched one of the First Impressions video on YT from an earlier build and that Snecma Atar sounded wonderful. 

[Flappie]

4 minutes ago, Jacodv201 said:

sound.zip 544.32 kB · 0 downloads

Thanks, you're having  the exact same symptoms. I guess it's the same for all affected users.

 

2 minutes ago, gulredrel said:

I lately watched one of the First Impressions video on YT from an earlier build and that Snecma Atar sounded wonderful. 

This thread helped me notice how good the F1 engine sounds are ingame (for those who don't have the bug, of course ). Aerges did a hell of a job!

 

To all: No need to send your sound logs anymore. Devs have everything they need, now.

[Sacarino111]

Hi.

@Flappie, hats off, what a work of yours! Great people, for sure!

 I don't have the F1, but this engine sound is making me reconsider my decision...

Saludos.

Saca111

[Svaroga84]

Thanks for all the help Flappie.  Here's mine.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IOMuBrq6f16UsADEGavAHlE4xJM4t0sI/view?usp=sharing

[Coolcris]

Thanks Flappie 

[Xupicor]

On 8/6/2022 at 8:27 PM, Flappie said:

Interesting, I've read a thread about another Hornet sound issue this morning:

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/306452-f18-cockpit-sounds/#comment-5023179

Are you also experiencing described issue with the Hornet? (I'm away from my PC)

 

I've since played online in the Hornet and had no problems, but then I would get very subdued sounds in _some parts_ of replay tracks. I also went through them at x60 or so in order to get to the fun parts first, so I don't know if that was the issue. I've purged the tracks since then. (They were quite big)

It seems intermittent or reliant on some combination of happenstances for me. I don't know how to replicate it, and it doesn't happen often. Only happened that one time in actual game (multiplayer) outside of the replay system. 

I've followed your instructions - here's my sound.log:

sound.log.zip

[Flappie]

Thanks. It seems you are not affected by the F1CE sound issue ("snecma_atar" sounds are present in your log).

Edited August 11, 2022 by Flappie

[ARM505]

Is there any quick fix for this? Some .cfg file or something to edit? I'd love to have my F1 sounds back...

I did the sound.log check, yes, also filled with Su27 and Su25 engine sounds. Such an odd bug.

[Flappie]

No fix, so far. We don't even know where the issue lies.

[ARM505]

29 minutes ago, Flappie said:

No fix, so far. We don't even know where the issue lies.

Well, thanks for the feedback, good luck!

[Loukuins]

Same issue here, the sound of the engine is mostly on the left and doesn't hear that much Mirage F1, I don't know about the Hornet, might have the issue aswell, I don't use a Anti Virus and it's only since the hotfix, the Mirage F1 had no issue at all... I hope they're gonna fix it quickly.
Starting the engine is silent...

Edited August 17, 2022 by Loukuins

[MarkP]

Yes, that i can second. It only happened after the hotfix that was applied like what.. 2,3 weeks ago? Vanilla Release version didnt had the issue

[AJ_Daubz]

On 8/14/2022 at 7:30 PM, Flappie said:

No fix, so far. We don't even know where the issue lies.

I'm not sure how helpful this will be, but I have discovered I only have the sound issues when I don't have any mods installed. I installed the community a4 and the Hercules mod which weirdly fixed the sound issues. As soon as I uninstalled them the issues came back. 

I also noticed when I had these mods installed, some of the textures were missing on some of the liveries- mainly only the wing textures.

I have no idea how having these mods would affect the mirage sound, but that is my experience. 

EDIT- just did some testing and can confirm it is the community A4 that fixes the mirage sound when it is installed in my case. I uninstalled/ reinstalled it multiple times, and each time it was installed, the mirage sound was fine, and each time it was uninstalled, the mirage sound was broken. Maybe this would explain why some people have the issues and others don't? 

Edited August 21, 2022 by AJ_Daubz

[Coolcris]

Thank you AJ, thanks to the a4 mod, i found the original sounds of the mirage F1

[Flappie]

Thanks guys, I'll report this important information to devs.

EDIT: Devs say a fix is coming with the next OB update. No need to install the A-4E mod (unless you want to fly this bird of course).

Edited August 21, 2022 by Flappie

[Loukuins]

I just tried with the A-4E-C mod and Yes ! The bird sound amazingly, I forgot how great it was ! Thanks for the workaround while waiting the fix from the dev !