not planned Request AGM-88 HARM

[AvgeekJoe]

Yes please in the next beta update, slide in the AGM-88 HARM as it's now an official Ukrainian MiG-29 Fulcrum weapon.  Be so awesome even if I could only fire in "Self Protect" and/or "Pre-Briefed" mode.

[Jascha]

[AvgeekJoe]

4 hours ago, Бойовий Сокіл said:

A car magazine says so, so it must be true.

1) It's not a car magazine

2) The editor there - Tyler Rogerway - has been covering mil aviation for a long time

3) Other sources are running w/ the news

[TaxDollarsAtWork]

8 hours ago, Бойовий Сокіл said:

A car magazine says so, so it must be true.

Yes friend, no murzilka in the western brochures
more truth in pop culture science mags than the word of god yes

[F-2]

Polish Mig-29 are Mill-1553 standard and we have the Mig-29G. This would be really cool to have.

[Ironhand]

https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/3134558/senior-defense-official-holds-a-background-briefing/
 

Quote

…The next area to identify for this package: missiles and anti-armor. This is a few different things here. First, we are providing additional High-speed Anti-Radiation Missiles. These are the HARM missiles. Ukraine has successfully employed these missiles. They have successfully integrated them onto Ukrainian aircraft, and this enables Ukraine to seek and destroy Russian radars, so we'll be providing additional HARM missiles...

 

[FoxTwo]

You going to have ED add the ipad and emulate the ios software they're using to control them too? Cause they're not exactly integrated into the Mig-29s avionics.

[Ironhand]

39 minutes ago, FoxTwo said:

You going to have ED add the ipad and emulate the ios software they're using to control them too? Cause they're not exactly integrated into the Mig-29s avionics.

I know that. Just saying that the OP wasn’t in error that Ukr. is using them. Besides, this is an FC3 a/c. No need to emulate anything. And, of course, being an FC3 a/c, nothing like this will be added. But he can certainly ask.

Edited August 21, 2022 by Ironhand

[AvgeekJoe]

1 hour ago, Бойовий Сокіл said:

Not too sure what you all are trying to tell us here.

[okopanja]

24 minutes ago, AvgeekJoe said:

Not too sure what you all are trying to tell us here.

Claimed is the existance of mythical active radar guided R-27E. Mounted on ukrainian Mig-29.

Later note: I named it mythical, since existance in operational use was disputed by ED.

Edited August 22, 2022 by okopanja

[Seaeagle]

17 minutes ago, okopanja said:

Claimed is the existance of mythical active radar guided R-27E. Mounted on ukrainian Mig-29.

Later note: I named it mythical, since existance in operational use was disputed by ED.

 

Those are not active radar homing heads though, but passive radar heads for the R-27P/EP and Kh-31P respectively.

Edit. Sniped  .

Edited August 22, 2022 by Seaeagle

[okopanja]

I stand corrected, but still mythical.

[okopanja]

Anyway, did ukrainian Mig-29s have MFI-55 or similar in cockpit?

[AvgeekJoe]

Problem is, AGM-88 wreckage has already been found in Ukraine and this is a legit effort.

 

https://theaviationist.com/2022/08/21/ukrainian-mig-29s-are-hunting-russian-radars-with-agm-88-harm-missiles/

 

[okopanja]

17 minutes ago, AvgeekJoe said:

Problem is, AGM-88 wreckage has already been found in Ukraine and this is a legit effort.

 

https://theaviationist.com/2022/08/21/ukrainian-mig-29s-are-hunting-russian-radars-with-agm-88-harm-missiles/

 

So how do you hang it, interface it, and use it from avionics point of view? Our DCS 29 is quite limited.

[AvgeekJoe]

2 hours ago, okopanja said:

So how do you hang it, interface it, and use it from avionics point of view? Our DCS 29 is quite limited.

Maybe create a virtual tablet in the game.  That's what many of us think the AGM-88 is being controlled by in RL - a Bluetooth connection to a tablet.

[okopanja]

Personally I think this is not very probable.

Even if the posted pictures of HARM parts are genuine and actually dated to the present conflict and indeed launched from Mig-29, I doubt anyone would share the enough details for developers to implement this. I suspect the integration might be way more basic than you expect.

Perhaps in several years when present conflict gets cold, someone publishes the manuals or operating instructions.

Also it appears that FC3 are in some sort of internal feature freeze in ED. Even existing bugs and inaccuracies are not fixed, unless there is a critical issue. No player-to-player DL in flanker for MP, apparently incorrect radar range for F-15c, unusable HOJ mode for R-27(E)R, no tone for helmet mode just to name some... 

Perhaps when FF 29 work actually starts being developed we get some more support on this?

As for the alternative seekers for R-27 I personally find it more intriguing. Their usage would likely not require the modification of modules. Existence of these seekers was suspected for a long time. From what I have gathered projects did exist, missiles with seekers were hanged on real aircraft (pictures of tests, air shows), but for undisclosed reasons they never got accepted into active service.

Even then we do not know if they are actually being used and if this is just another part of the information warfare.

Off course nobody is prohibiting collecting the material and public information on combat use, this can all come handy later.

[Ironhand]

Most likely they are being used in Pre-Briefed mode, if I understand that mode correctly.

[Raviar]

Just fly american 

[Spurts]

Ask teh Grim Reapers how they did it in one of their videos.

[AvgeekJoe]

4 hours ago, Spurts said:

Ask teh Grim Reapers how they did it in one of their videos.

Here's the video:

 

 

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

On 8/20/2022 at 6:52 PM, AvgeekJoe said:

 

2) The editor there - Tyler Rogerway - has been covering mil aviation for a long time

 

Rogoway is a clown. He's peddled Spreyisms for years and outright posts out of context and false statements with a certain frequency. He's not doing it here, but he's not a source to be cited. We'd need a lot more information for AGM-88s on MiGs and I doubt much of the needed info will be forthcoming at this time.

Edited August 24, 2022 by MiG21bisFishbedL

[AvgeekJoe]

9 minutes ago, MiG21bisFishbedL said:

We'd need a lot more information for AGM-88s on MiGs and I doubt much of the needed info will be forthcoming at this time.

 

Probably and likely.

I won't dignify the rest of your comment with a response unless you want my thoughts on Fishbeds...  Sorry but I prefer Freedom Fulcrums and Tomcats!

[Top Jockey]

On 8/23/2022 at 11:11 PM, Бойовий Сокіл said:

Yeah the 29/27 helmet mode is completely wrong and I wish it was corrected as these are probably the most iconic and prolific features of those jets. It should literally be like in the Ka-50 as it uses the exact same system. So a lot could essentially be copied over.

 

Completely agree.

[Jascha]

Video confirmation: