Low perfomance with high PC (need help)

[Legolasindar]

Talking with my friends i found a problem of FPS with my BS.

First i have FPS limitated to 40. Normally i get 30-40 FPS inside cockpit, when l look other Ka50 drop to 24+/- FPS. OK, go comparision:

 

My graphics is: AA=Off Antisotropic=by Aplication qualityNvidia=Good and rest in default normal options.

 

- I changed to low resolution 1024x768

- I set low graphics.

- I set affinity two multicore. (core0 core1)

- I set affinity to the other core (core1, by default es core0)

- I set AA to 32xS and 4xS.

- I set Antisotropic to 6x.

- I set Vsync off and on, with and without TripeBuffer.

- Limited prerender to 0, to 1, to 2, to 6, and by default to 3.

- I kill rivatuner process before launch BS.

- I close KIS (antivirus Kasperky) before launch.

- I used with and without nHancer using my default options and this other talked options.

- And other no remember options.

 

And ALL the time have same FPS, 30-40 inside cockpit, 24+/- when lock other Ka50, etc... Any issue of Black Shark or my PC limit my FPS.

I look processes with BS running, no other aplications using CPU and/or RAM. No have virus/spyware/others, periodically scan my computar, and have good and profesional programs for defend my PC.

 

My friends with low PC and graphics set in High have more FPS. Please help me :helpsmilie:

 

1. Core2Duo E6400 OC to 2.6 Ghz

2. Asus P5W DH Deluxe OC

3. 2 Gig RAM Kingston OC 1:1

4. XFX 8800 GTX - 178.24 / 180.48 drivers

5. LG set on 1440x900

6. ADSL 3M/512

7. Loved Hotas Cougar / CH Pro Pedals USB / TrackIR 3 Pro

8. Win XP 32bits Profesional SP3

9. DirectX 9c with lastest redistribubles.

*. Russian DCS:BS 1.0 with newInput.dll

Edited January 5, 2009 by Legolasindar

[beers]

These friends of yours with better FPS, are they running XP or Vista?

[X32Wright]

Do you have a soundcard or do you use the onboard soundcard? If you are using the onboard soundcard that explains your low FPS number.

[Legolasindar]

My friends use Win XP

 

I use onboard Realtek. Do you say this explains low FPS, for? what is the reason?

My drivers of onboard soundcard is updated.

Edited January 5, 2009 by Legolasindar

[Francous]

-I set AA to 32xS

- I set Antisotropic to 6x.

 

 

Humm!...

 

Just try 4x AA and 4x Aniso and bump the rez to 1280x1024

[H-street]

i don't know how it relates , but the 2.6Ghz C2D seems kindof low, BS is a hugely cpu dependent beast.. you actually have pretty similar performance that i have with my 3Ghz AMD + 4Gb Ram/ ATI 4850..

 

 

also post your friends system specs.. its hard to compare

[Prophet]

I had almost exactly the same system as you but with my CPU @ 3.4GHz and an 8800GT/512 and 4GB of RAM. And I had less performance. I only had about 25-30FPS in the cockpit and it dropped to the teens with other KA50 in view. Of course I had AA and AF maxed also.

 

When I got my 4870/1GB, it almost doubled. Now I get 50-60FPS, and only drops a little with other KA50 in view. In the air I get over 100FPS. I know some think I am smoking something as the GPU shouldnt give that much improvement, but there is something with the 1GB of memory. It may have to do with texture sizes or something.

[Francous]

Texture size are very important.. 1GB help a lot actually. It is better to bump a bit your rez than add AAx Anx.

 

Ovoid addons with big textures in the temp folder /BMP files that are too big..

[NullCharacter]

I know some think I am smoking something as the GPU shouldnt give that much improvement, but there is something with the 1GB of memory. It may have to do with texture sizes or something.

 

I believe it has more to do with the speed of your video card's memory than anything else. When I overclock my 8800GTX memory from 900 MHz to 1,000 MHz I see a 30 - 35% improvement in fps in BS.

[X32Wright]

Using onboard soundcard takes away CPU processing power because it has to process the sound too not just geometry and vector transforms and other 3D routines that the GPU does not cover.

 

Using any soundcard is bettrr than using onboard sound! This is because you are asking everything to be done by your processor instead of having the sound done by the soundcard, video/graophics by the video card and the rest done by the CPU.

[Icarus2]

32x AA will choke most computers unless you are running Pong, I know I can't run anything with it even with 8800 ultras in SLI.:)

[Legolasindar]

One of my friends.

 

System Model: P5W DH Deluxe

BIOS: BIOS Date: 09/26/06 12:52:11 Ver: 08.00.12

Processor: Intel® Core™2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs)

Memory: 2048MB RAM

DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

Operating System: Windows XP Home SP3

Graphic: GeForce 7900 GT 256MB

Resolution: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Sound: Realtek HD is onboard.

 

Same similar hardware, but with very less graphic card compare with me, and take more FPS.

 

I think sound is not the problem. have same MB, with same sound onboard.

 

I tested with AA/Antisotropic on and off, on diferent resolutions.

[TheMoose]

Not sure, but you should get more FPS out of your rig. I would start, by verifying what’s running in the background, try disabling start-up apps to see.

 

Xp, start, run, msconfig, startup tab, uncheck all, apply then reboot. Restart Blackshark.

 

 

Is your PSU supplying enough power to your hardware?

Check if any BIOS upgrade are available for your motherboard...

Ensure your system is dust free, heating issues will yield poor results on your cpu...

[Legolasindar]

My PSU supply the need power and more.

BIOS is updated.

No problems with dust or temperature.

 

I looked processes with BS running, and no have any program using my CPU or my RAM. But i go try you suggestion of msconfig.

[Legolasindar]

Continue same :(

[llama]

Not real sure about your hardware but this is a GREAT guide for windows services that you can disable. Might help performance if their are less processes running in the background =) http://www.blackviper.com/

[Slayer]

Look at my specs in my sig. The most I get is about 50 FPS with the affinity trick. I'd say you are getting average FPS. Maybe try updating your BIOS or chipset drivers. The other poster is right high AA will kill your FPS. Another big hit in the game is water. If you run it on the highest settings you will get bad performance. Also if you are comparing systems make sure you both load up in the exact same area or mission because large airbases or citys will cause huge FPS drop.

[Legolasindar]

Sorry Vista users no help me, Vista run diferent for the multicore, cant compare results with XP. but thanks.

 

No have AA, Water is OFF. ALL my system is updated including BIOS.

Water in blank = disabled.

[vCUJOv]

I have the i7 920 overclocked to 4GHz, and GTX 260. With affinity fix with all cores and settings maxed out at 1900x1200 in vista 32bit, onboard sound. Sitting on the tarmac in training mission a get 33 fps and up in the air around 50. I don't know if its good or bad. Any sugestions?

[Kuky]

If you are getting 30-40fps in cockpit with C2D clocked at 2.6GHz that's not bad performance at all. In original post it says you run low graphics options... if you do and even if you use high sampling of AA and AF it won't affect your framerate because your framerate will be all limited by the CPU as that video card is enough to run this sim. I bet you thoug if you set graphics settings to high and use water on high and enable high sampling for AA and AF you will get nice frame hit and this will be because your video card is gonna become the bottleneck... but even them it'll only do so in maps/missions where you don't have large number of targets/vehicles etc. Once you get large number of vehicles and you get close to cities/large forest you will again get CPU limitation and your framerate will drop again.

 

From personal exeprience you'd need something of the order of C2D equivalent CPU running at some 6GHz to get min of some 20FPS at any given time in most missions (if you don't go completely crazy with number of added objects ;)). Surely you'd think 6GHz is way too much but I am giving this figure for really "tough" situations that do happen in sertain areas of the map (fly close to Simferopol on rainy day and overcast and have some 100-200 units having a battle and you'll see how much CPU power you'd need for all this to run with good framerate).

[skypirate]

Using any soundcard is bettrr than using onboard sound! This is because you are asking everything to be done by your processor instead of having the sound done by the soundcard, video/graophics by the video card and the rest done by the CPU.

 

SO, if I install SB Audigy let's say in my rig, this will improve my FPS (and the in-game sounds as well) YES/NO??

[IIIJG11 Reaper]

Yes it would, I imagine no more than 10 or 15 fps,,,I would use a lower resolution to assits in the fps,,1280x960 or the like.

[Prophet]

SO, if I install SB Audigy let's say in my rig, this will improve my FPS (and the in-game sounds as well) YES/NO??

 

I saw a noticable increase in FPS on my C2D system when I got a XFi gamer. Just remember to disable the onboard sound from the BIOS.

[X32Wright]

Yes any soundcard that has TRUE 'hardware acceleration' like Audigy 2ZS or X-Fi Gamer (not the lower versions of X-Fi because that emulates X-Fi capabilities in 'software') will increase your fps, and this is even more true if you are using onboard sound.

Check if your Audigy is just Audigy or is it Audigy 2 ZS. The newer Audigy series are using 'software emulation' to do its work so you will not get a fps gain. The older Audigy 2 ZS has hardware acceleration.

Edited January 8, 2009 by X32Wright

[Kuky]

Like others already said, you will get better performance if you buy good sound card and this is because on board sound actually uses CPU to do all the work and this means loosing CPU cycles, what should normally be done by dedicated hardware onboard the Sound card.

 

As far as I remeber older sound cards had something like good 6-7% CPU utilization which dropped to some 1-2% with later cards, and I think with current cards like X-Fi CPU utilisation has come to a minimum.

Edited January 8, 2009 by Kuky