Many Game crashes in multiplayer since DCS 2.8

[Badass1982]

13 hours ago, ruddy122 said:

Honestly Operator Error on my part

I figured it out the hard way

The Mod makers have not yet updated their Mods to DCS 2.8

Because of that you get a Mod Conflict and DCS Crashes

Do what BIGNEWY said a year ago to load update and prevent crashes

To play DCS 2.8 I had to remove all Mods, do a repair and clean and then load the update

Til the updated Mods you have legacy DCS for now if you want 2.8

 

This cannot be 100% the cause, I run 6 servers (and a 7th as a test one) 4 of my servers run flawlessly on 2.8 WITH all the same mods as servers 1 and 2, its a very weird issue and only seems to be affecting 2 of my missions/servers, in the interests of completion the maps that I'm having the issues on are Caucuses and Snowfox.

The logs don't meant that much to my feebly brain but this is the error i can see: No idea why its referring to some Microsoft "symbols" package" ???
 

2022-10-30 05:09:55.143 INFO    EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information
2022-10-30 05:09:55.144 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20221030-050955 --------------
2022-10-30 05:09:55.144 INFO    EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.8.0.32066 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.22000)
2022-10-30 05:09:55.145 INFO    EDCORE (Main): E:\DCS\bin\DCS.exe
2022-10-30 05:09:55.145 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at C2C16CEF 00:00000000
2022-10-30 05:09:55.146 INFO    EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;E:\DCS;E:\DCS\bin;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'test'
2022-10-30 05:09:55.147 INFO    EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.22000 () 0x100-0x1
2022-10-30 05:09:55.570 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007A6CEF (DCS): SW + 0x3677AF
2022-10-30 05:09:55.571 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007C0562 (DCS): SW + 0x381022
2022-10-30 05:09:55.572 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007B9A7C (DCS): SW + 0x37A53C
2022-10-30 05:09:55.572 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007C2C54 (DCS): SW + 0x383714
2022-10-30 05:09:55.573 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007CABC5 (DCS): SW + 0x38B685
2022-10-30 05:09:55.573 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007B66A2 (DCS): SW + 0x377162
2022-10-30 05:09:55.574 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007B5BED (DCS): SW + 0x3766AD
2022-10-30 05:09:55.574 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007B6DB6 (DCS): SW + 0x377876
2022-10-30 05:09:55.574 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007B5393 (DCS): SW + 0x375E53
2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000078BDAE (DCS): SW + 0x34C86E
2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000078B63F (DCS): SW + 0x34C0FF
2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000005214C (WorldGeneral): wControl::Control + 0x5C
2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000039E5 (World): wSimTrace::CommandsTraceDiscreteIsOn + 0x4B5
2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000003EFD (World): wSimCalendar::DoActionsUntil + 0x1FD
2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000080CCB1 (DCS): SW + 0x3CD771
2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000080CA0E (DCS): SW + 0x3CD4CE
2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000082D349 (DCS): SW + 0x3EDE09
2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007ECA54 (DCS): SW + 0x3AD514
2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007ED924 (DCS): SW + 0x3AE3E4
2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000022820EB (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xF5B0E7
2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000BDA842 (DCS): SW + 0x79B302
2022-10-30 05:09:55.577 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000154E0 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x10
2022-10-30 05:09:55.577 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000000485B (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x2B
2022-10-30 05:09:55.800 INFO    EDCORE (Main): Minidump created.
2022-10-30 05:09:55.800 INFO    Lua::Config (Main): stack traceback:
2022-10-30 05:09:55.800 WARNING LOG (3720): 3 duplicate message(s) skipped.

 

[ruddy122]

The Only Mods I left disabled for now

CJS Super Hornet

IDF Mod Sufa 2.2

J-10A Community MOD

DCS RWR Mod

Logbook Improvements MASTER/USN

CDG

Entendard

Lechuzas Negras Eurofighter (Should be fine cause one of their partners is JAS 39 Community)

First 6 are swap for F/A-18, F-16, and JF-17 which won't run my download of DCS 2.8

CDG and Entendard I haven't tried

Servers have no clue just a suggestion to get my setup going

[ruddy122]

Quick Update

Cuesta Bros CDG and Entendard Mod also Lechuzas Negras Eurofighter Work in 2.8

My version of 2.8 crashes if the Mod tries to replace the DCS Main Files like entry.lua for example

If it works in Saved Games (the Mod), DCS looks like it leaves it alone for me

I used the most framerate hungry map I play, South Atlantic out of Stanley and Mt Pleasant

Edited October 30, 2022 by ruddy122
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[3000 Black Jets of Allah]

The crashes have nothing to do with mods, I've done a full game repair and extra file removal and renamed my saved games folder to create a full new one and I crash when trying to join aircraft on a completely vanilla game with zero mods.

[Wiggy]

Also getting crashes at random times. My logs are identical to Badass1982's.  This is with a Mod-less install.

[ruddy122]

Sorry you have problems with the update

Read in the DCS Forums 1) Not enough memory 2) Mod Conflict 3) Works in some servers not in others 4) When firing DCS Apache it crashes 5) Random crashes with no Mods

To revert to previous version google "DCS Revert to previous version"

Can do it but it's adventures with the DOS command prompt

tip cd is change directory

[DrIoannis]

I unistall DCS and reinstall it and now it works fine. Same mods etc are running now without issues .

[Tj1376]

11 hours ago, Badass1982 said:

This cannot be 100% the cause, I run 6 servers (and a 7th as a test one) 4 of my servers run flawlessly on 2.8 WITH all the same mods as servers 1 and 2, its a very weird issue and only seems to be affecting 2 of my missions/servers, in the interests of completion the maps that I'm having the issues on are Caucuses and Snowfox.

The logs don't meant that much to my feebly brain but this is the error i can see: No idea why its referring to some Microsoft "symbols" package" ???
 

2022-10-30 05:09:55.143 INFO    EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information
2022-10-30 05:09:55.144 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20221030-050955 --------------
2022-10-30 05:09:55.144 INFO    EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.8.0.32066 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.22000)
2022-10-30 05:09:55.145 INFO    EDCORE (Main): E:\DCS\bin\DCS.exe
2022-10-30 05:09:55.145 INFO    EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at C2C16CEF 00:00000000
2022-10-30 05:09:55.146 INFO    EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;E:\DCS;E:\DCS\bin;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 528, UserName: 'test'
2022-10-30 05:09:55.147 INFO    EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.22000 () 0x100-0x1
2022-10-30 05:09:55.570 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007A6CEF (DCS): SW + 0x3677AF
2022-10-30 05:09:55.571 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007C0562 (DCS): SW + 0x381022
2022-10-30 05:09:55.572 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007B9A7C (DCS): SW + 0x37A53C
2022-10-30 05:09:55.572 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007C2C54 (DCS): SW + 0x383714
2022-10-30 05:09:55.573 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007CABC5 (DCS): SW + 0x38B685
2022-10-30 05:09:55.573 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007B66A2 (DCS): SW + 0x377162
2022-10-30 05:09:55.574 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007B5BED (DCS): SW + 0x3766AD
2022-10-30 05:09:55.574 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007B6DB6 (DCS): SW + 0x377876
2022-10-30 05:09:55.574 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007B5393 (DCS): SW + 0x375E53
2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000078BDAE (DCS): SW + 0x34C86E
2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000078B63F (DCS): SW + 0x34C0FF
2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000005214C (WorldGeneral): wControl::Control + 0x5C
2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000039E5 (World): wSimTrace::CommandsTraceDiscreteIsOn + 0x4B5
2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000003EFD (World): wSimCalendar::DoActionsUntil + 0x1FD
2022-10-30 05:09:55.575 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000080CCB1 (DCS): SW + 0x3CD771
2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000080CA0E (DCS): SW + 0x3CD4CE
2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000082D349 (DCS): SW + 0x3EDE09
2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007ECA54 (DCS): SW + 0x3AD514
2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000007ED924 (DCS): SW + 0x3AE3E4
2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000022820EB (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xF5B0E7
2022-10-30 05:09:55.576 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000BDA842 (DCS): SW + 0x79B302
2022-10-30 05:09:55.577 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000154E0 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x10
2022-10-30 05:09:55.577 INFO    EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000000485B (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x2B
2022-10-30 05:09:55.800 INFO    EDCORE (Main): Minidump created.
2022-10-30 05:09:55.800 INFO    Lua::Config (Main): stack traceback:
2022-10-30 05:09:55.800 WARNING LOG (3720): 3 duplicate message(s) skipped.

 

Symbols is how the operating system downloads and uploads debug info to the mothership. Its not the cause here.... the access violation is, and the reference to symbols is just the OS trying to reach home to mommy to tell microsoft the process behaved badly and to see if microsoft had any information to provide you over how to fix it.

Out of wild curiosity, do the 2 missions which have issues contain harrier heavy flight times?

TJ

[Flappie]

7 hours ago, 3000 Black Jets of Allah said:

The crashes have nothing to do with mods, I've done a full game repair and extra file removal and renamed my saved games folder to create a full new one and I crash when trying to join aircraft on a completely vanilla game with zero mods.

Then please create your own thread and attach the most recent ZIP file from your "Saved Games/DCS../Logs" folder.

Same thing for @Wiggy.

[Focha]

I have the same issues as reported here.

[Badass1982]

For what it's worth I was working with Special K from the DCS Discord basically all morning and it came down to being the VSN tornado mod for me at least. 

 

Doesn't explain why it worked with 2.7 or why it worked on 2 of my servers with 2.8 but not on two others (as they all had the same mods installed).... either way this fixed it for me.

 

I'm not sure what Harrier Heavy flight times means but if u can explain I'll answer that question.

 

[Tj1376]

We noticed with one of our servers that was very popular with the Harrier fliers that it crashes much more frequently than two other servers that don't experience heavy harrier flight time. Apparently Greywolf also disabled all Harrier slots on his server to stabilize his environment.

I have no proof Harrier is the actual issue, just sharing the speculation we've gathered from the past three days of watching our servers crash. There is an eery pattern of "several Harrier slotted=many crashes" - We ran 10 hours last night without any Harrier slotted, and zero crashes, so we have a bit of a hunch.

TJ

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[Xeno 1-1 HuDz]

Can confirm i am now also getting lots a CTD in 2.8 now and no idea what is causing it, has happened quite a few times in all the modules i have tried so far. F16, F18, F14B :-(

[Hiten Bongz]

Have been trying to fight on Growling Sidewinder with the JF-17, and am getting lots of crashes - it ALWAYS happens when there is an incoming missile.

 

EVERY. TIME. That can't be a coincidence.

 

Understand: not all missiles shot at me are making the game crash, but every time I've crashed, is when a missile is chasing me - or possibly hitting me.

 

Recent log attached. I've deleted all mods, ran Steam verify on DCS, and the issue is still happening.

 

EDIT/Update: Even watching the track file replay, my game crashes at the same point, and it's when I'm being hit by a missile. I took a screenshot from the replay in 3rd person, and as soon as the missile hits me, the game crashes. This was my second spawn, the first missile that killed me did not make the game crash, but this one did. It could have been a different missile/jet that shot me of course.

 

dcs.log

Edited October 31, 2022 by Hiten Bongz

[QuozL]

Brand new install of standalone beta stream with the only mod added being DCS Scratchpad 0.6.1 and getting a crash almost everytime I try and play online with mates on similar vanilla installs having the same issue, this is with no even opening scratchpad addon. Playing on Caucases maps mainly. Not sure if will help but here is the zip from yesterday, thought it may have been the easter eggs so disabled that with an autoexec.cfg but no difference today.

 

dcs.log-20221031-134809.zip

Edited November 1, 2022 by QuozL

[KoN]

Game crash twice now in multiplayer . Very poor in VR .Tested with Lowest settings in headset and game . = Crash . ? 

Not sure what's going on . Also mouse stutter in menu with SRS running . ? 

Edited November 1, 2022 by KoN