Sub-forum for the planned Dynamic Campaign

[Mr_sukebe]

Just a thought, can we ask/suggest a new sub-forum ref the planned dynamic campaign

[Lace]

Yup.  Lots to discuss.

[1MajorKoenig]

Yes!!!

[Silver_Dragon]

I think has very early...

[Exorcet]

8 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said:

I think has very early...

I don't think it's too early to float ideas to ED, as long as they actually respond to them and some discussion emerges. I really wish they took that approach with the BVR AI, many good ideas were brought up before its release, but none of them were really integrated into the AI revamp.

Edited January 6, 2023 by Exorcet

[LooseSeal]

8 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said:

I think has very early...

It would still provide a place for people to talk about ideas, suggestions and such - sometimes some of the best ideas come from the community. The devs might find it a useful resource, even at this early stage of development.

[linside]

It's right!!!! 

[Raven68]

Still no follow up on this from the developers or moderators on the creation of a sub-forum for this topic? I agree there should be an "official" place to discuss.

[sirrah]

1 hour ago, Raven68 said:

Still no follow up on this from the developers or moderators on the creation of a sub-forum for this topic? I agree there should be an "official" place to discuss.

Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is there to discuss?

There isn't any news. So setting up a DC sub-forum now, can only result in:

• Wild speculations (rumors at best)
• Fiery (yet pointless) discussions
• All sort of individual wishes (which can also be posted here)
• And (most importantly) it'll lead to people expecting a soon-ish release and those same people will get very upset when they find out it might still take (a) year(s)

[Raven68]

8 hours ago, sirrah said:

Forgive my ignorance, but what exactly is there to discuss?

There isn't any news. So setting up a DC sub-forum now, can only result in:

• Wild speculations (rumors at best)
• Fiery (yet pointless) discussions
• All sort of individual wishes (which can also be posted here)
• And (most importantly) it'll lead to people expecting a soon-ish release and those same people will get very upset when they find out it might still take (a) year(s)

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Dynamic Campaign 

Development Progress

The EDDCE Dynamic Campaign Engine will be a part of the DCS Core, allowing the creation of special campaigns where air, sea and land units do not have pre-created tasks, but are rather controlled by the strategic AI. Each side initiates the campaign on the basis of start conditions of the conflict, this includes offensive or defensive position, asset resource list (including HQs, factories, warehouses etc), and specific objectives which are created from the onset for each individual campaign design. When a campaign starts, the strategic AI initiates the tasking process (ATO Air Tasking Orders, Ground tasking and Naval Tasking etc) for each unit in the side’s asset list and order of battle. This process of tasking and decision making is ongoing for the duration of the campaign and is a function of assets remaining and reinforcement and resupply cycles. It is important to remember that the player can take control of any AI unit and participate in its mission task and/or take indirect control over the strategic AI decisions, in addition to direct control over specific tasking orders.

After having completed the global structure of the Dynamic Campaign Engine in 2021, 2022 saw substantial fine-tuning of the system’s individual components. For example, our general scheme of ATOs was built starting from defensive combat air patrol operations along borders, through all subsequent stages, including SEAD suppression of enemy air defenses, air superiority, CAS close air support, interdiction and deep strike. Ground equipment and operations also received a lot of attention. In addition to the actual movement of units to perform their assigned mission, a mechanism was created for correctly tasking vehicles in a group based fashion depending on their tactical situation: attack, defense, or transit. 

To increase the number of units in the campaign without over-tasking the CPU, only units that are ‘visible’ to the player or that ‘see’ the player (eyesight and sensor range based) are fully calculated. For the remaining units, lighter algorithms are used which are based on pre-calculated data sets. It is good to note that when preparing such data, separate mechanisms are used in EDDCE to easily process all upcoming equipment and weapons which will be added to DCS. To ensure that unit calculations do not negatively affect gameplay, seamless transitions between the lighter and the fully-fledged calculation models have been implemented. This will allow the player to see all the units in their correct place, performing their tasks while moving across the entire map. When interacting with the player, all units use the normal DCS algorithms. 

Another important task that received attention this year is the ‘front-line’ system. A new model of multiple front-lines has been implemented that allows for a more illustrative picture of breakthrough and encircling maneuvers. During 2022, the main engine elements were tuned, allowing campaign management to be more automated, based on the dynamic situations as they evolve in the campaign. Please do follow our news for more information on this exciting core element of DCS.

 

I would say there is plenty from that post to discuss in a dedicated forum.

[Silver_Dragon]

The dinamic campaign was posted on 2023 official news. On the "2023 and beyond roadmap"

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Eagle Dynamics Dynamic Campaigns Engine (EDDCE)
2022 saw the completion of all major engineering components of the EDDCE. In 2023 we continue development and testing and making improvements to these components as well as adding new features where needed. We are also enhancing the mechanics in the campaign editor to avoid issues that may arise when the EDDCE is used for different maps. The next big tasks include transferring mission data between player and AI pilots and creating a specific graphic user interface. 

Please see our previous Newsletter for greater detail on the subject.

 

Has a dedicated post about Dynamic Campaign from some years ago.

 

[sirrah]

4 hours ago, Raven68 said:

I would say there is plenty from that post to discuss in a dedicated forum.

Ah yes, forgot about that new bulletin 

(Still not sure how much there is to "discuss" about this just yet though)