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When I’ve used DLSS in that other civvy sim, instruments and other items look pretty ordinary. Maybe this will be different. 

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3 hours ago, Willie Nelson said:

When I’ve used DLSS in that other civvy sim, instruments and other items look pretty ordinary. Maybe this will be different. 

I'm using DLSS at "Performance" setting In MSFS with Reverb G2. The trick is to set the rendering resolution even higher than the 100% resolution of the G2 (which is around 3100x3100), so try to set it to 3500x3500, or even to 4000x4000 to se wonders. 😀

If you thought before that the G2 is super crisp then multiply it by 1,5. This is what you'll get at decent framerates.

So if DLSS will come to DCS then this alone combined with multithreading should indeed yield enormous change for the image quality in VR.

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I thought the jets were next in line to get advanced DM - no word on that?

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22 minutes ago, draconus said:

I thought the jets were next in line to get advanced DM - no word on that?

 

this is true. i feel that ed's modern jets wouldn't even qualify for "basic" DM at the moment. they do need work in that regard!

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I'd love to know about that, too. Modern jets and especially helicopters, which are coming to DCS in increasing numbers. While I can accept that when a jet is hit, it'll usually be going down anyway, given it'll usually be hit at least by multiple 20mm rounds or a missile, the helos are routinely exposed to rifle-caliber ground fire, HMGs and smaller SAMs. With no ejection system (except on the Ka-50), realistic damage modeling becomes more important.

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13 hours ago, Hive said:

Not sure, but DLSS brings its own antialiasing method (DLAA), right? Since DCS is completely aliased in VR, even with MSAA 4x, DLSS may enhance the image quality.

AFAIK DLSS uses motion vector like TAA so it would be easier to implement TAA along DLSS

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Really happy to know that ED is improving the core of the simulator. Let's see if we can see the multithreading and dlss in the first quarter 2023 and not in 2024 or 25. Keep pushing the VR!! 

I will buy more planes and sceneries when I see the improvements. 

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On 1/9/2023 at 3:33 AM, St4rgun said:

I'm using DLSS at "Performance" setting In MSFS with Reverb G2. The trick is to set the rendering resolution even higher than the 100% resolution of the G2 (which is around 3100x3100), so try to set it to 3500x3500, or even to 4000x4000 to se wonders. 😀

 

G2's panel resolution is only 2160 x 2160 per eye. SteamVR 100% is already oversampling it by ~50% at 3100x3100...

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1 hour ago, peachmonkey said:

G2's panel resolution is only 2160 x 2160 per eye. SteamVR 100% is already oversampling it by ~50% at 3100x3100...

I know it for sure. That's why I told that 100% resolution in OpenXR is also 3100x3100, but with DLSS you can "easily" set the target resolution to even higher than that, even to 4000x4000 to get extremely crisp visuals on the cockpit gauges at playable framerates. Sounds crazy, but working - at least for me.

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1 hour ago, St4rgun said:

I know it for sure. That's why I told that 100% resolution in OpenXR is also 3100x3100, but with DLSS you can "easily" set the target resolution to even higher than that, even to 4000x4000 to get extremely crisp visuals on the cockpit gauges at playable framerates. Sounds crazy, but working - at least for me.

I understand, I'm glad you're enjoying the G2 (it does have a pretty sweet motion smoothing from MS), but it doesn't work too well for my eyes. I prefer the native high panel resolution (like AERO with 2880x2720 per eye) over any artificial upscaling either in hw or sw, I tend to notice too much smearing in the final image, it could be a psychological problem.. 😄

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2 hours ago, Germane said:

It all sounds really great!

The only topic that is missing is the rework of AAR.

Well personally I could add a lot more but I will keep it to your wingman talking nonstop calling out targets up to 170 miles (in F16!). My pet peeve nr One.

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