reported Dogfight Mode - Next Available AMRAAM Version

[Terzi]

Let's say you have 1 AIM-120B and 1 AIM-120C. You shoot the B in DGFT mode and the next available missile C will not get automatically selected.

In usual AA mode the switching works. When you are out of Bs the Cs will be selected next to shoot.

If you need track I can provide but its easy to generate.

[BIGNEWY]

please provide a track and any public evidence that it is wrong. 

feel free to PM me

thank you

[Moonshine]

did a short test

A/A mode, only Aim 120s (2x C, 4x B) -> switches automatically A-A_Mode_MRM_auto_switch.trk

DGFT mode 2x C, 4x B-> switches automatically DGFT-Mode_MRM_auto_switch.trk

DGFT mode all MSL types equipped -> 2x C, 2x B, 1x 9m, 1x 9x -> after firing the first 120s it switches to an aim-9, shooting this would make the jet switch to the second aim-9 automatically, not the other 2 Aim120s, those only come up if manually selected afterwards. -> question here is: should it instead switch to the next MRM type missile before going to the aim-9 or not? And shouldnt it select the remaining 120s as the only missiles left after all aim-9 have been used instead of just displaying 0 aim-9?DGFT-Mode_all_MSL-types.trk

Per default when aim-9 are equipped, DGFT always selects aim-9. manually selecting aim-120c results to a switch to aim-9 once all aim-120c are used, aim-120b still on the jet.

 

when shooting the first two 120C, the jet switches back to aim-9. MSL step long press lets you step through the weapons until you reach the other aim-120(b). shooting those however then also makes the jet change back to the already used 120C (0 120C) and does not automatically go for aim-9. this is wrongly implemented as the jet should skip depleted or otherwise not ready weapons DGFT-Mode_all_MSL-types-2.trk

 

now since the last scenario sounds confusing; step by step:

Loadout contains -> 2x 120C, 2x 120B, 1x 9m, 1x 9x

1. enter DGFT -> aim 9 is default

2. MSL step long press to get to 120C

3. Shoot all 120C -> jet automatically selects aim-9

4. MSL step long to get to the 120B

5. shoot all 120B -> jet changes back to 120C (??? why, they are already gone) -> this is wrongly implemented as the jet should skip depleted or otherwise not ready weapons according to the manual.

6. Manually step through (MSL Step long) to get to Aim-9m

7. Shoot aim 9M

8. Jet switches automatically to remaining 9x

9. use aim-9x

10. congrats youre down to guns

Edited February 21, 2023 by Moonshine

[_SteelFalcon_]

25 minutes ago, Moonshine said:

when shooting the first two 120C, the jet switches back to aim-9. MSL step long press lets you step through the weapons until you reach the other aim-120(b). shooting those however then also makes the jet change back to the already used 120C (0 120C) and does not automatically go for aim-9

That doesnt make any sense…

also the order of missiles is described in a specific manual pre 2000 in a section about the the SMS

page number barely 3 digits.

so in any case it depends on the stations loaded. That it goes to depleted weapons is incorrect behavior

Edited February 21, 2023 by _SteelFalcon_

[Moonshine]

will send PM

 

[skywalker22]

Why on earth would anyone take different versions of same missile

[_SteelFalcon_]

44 minutes ago, skywalker22 said:

Why on earth would anyone take different versions of same missile

Well, the specific manual even gives an example but instead of amraaams, it mentions versions of the aim9. Yet the logic behind it is the same

Edited February 21, 2023 by _SteelFalcon_

[BIGNEWY]

A report has been made for the team to review but this is low priority. 

thanks