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Hi guys,

Hope all is well. A quick question if I may. I used to fly the f16 a few months back and used to use the mavericks with no issues. I stopped playing for 2/3 months and just hopped back in last week.

I can't get the mavericks to work properly with the TGP. I am aligning them on the ground as always with master arm to simulate and ground jettison enable. I'm doing everything correctly but when I fly to a target and do autohand off from TGP I don't get the C indicator.

What am I doing wrong or what has changed?

Your help would be amazing.

Thank you

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9 hours ago, Viciam1 said:

Hi guys,

Hope all is well. A quick question if I may. I used to fly the f16 a few months back and used to use the mavericks with no issues. I stopped playing for 2/3 months and just hopped back in last week.

I can't get the mavericks to work properly with the TGP. I am aligning them on the ground as always with master arm to simulate and ground jettison enable. I'm doing everything correctly but when I fly to a target and do autohand off from TGP I don't get the C indicator.

What am I doing wrong or what has changed?

Your help would be amazing.

Thank you

If you fly the stable version, it is still bugged. They do work fine in the recent Open Beta version.

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On Open Beta they work fine.

However, you can no longer boresight them accurately while on the runway (ground).

I first take-off, then I pick a target on the map - preferably a vehicle and fly towards the target and perform boresighting in-air at a range of 4nm to 7nm +-

Doing that I have been successfully for the past two months. since 25 Jan's open beta if I am not mistaken.

 

P.S I always do this with master arm ON and make sure the TGP snaps to a target before handing off to maverick, slewling to same target and make sure it also snaps to the same target after pressing TMS up/fwd - then remember to click on the BSGT MFD button, and do same for other pylon.

 

Then go out of air-to-ground mode and switch back to a-g and pick another taget or same with TGP and see if - after handoff - the maverick points to same spot on the WPN page.

 

Contact me if you need some help.

 

 

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31 minutes ago, AngryViper.101 said:

On Open Beta they work fine.

However, you can no longer boresight them accurately while on the runway (ground).

I first take-off, then I pick a target on the map - preferably a vehicle and fly towards the target and perform boresighting in-air at a range of 4nm to 7nm +-

Doing that I have been successfully for the past two months. since 25 Jan's open beta if I am not mistaken.

 

P.S I always do this with master arm ON and make sure the TGP snaps to a target before handing off to maverick, slewling to same target and make sure it also snaps to the same target after pressing TMS up/fwd - then remember to click on the BSGT MFD button, and do same for other pylon.

 

Then go out of air-to-ground mode and switch back to a-g and pick another taget or same with TGP and see if - after handoff - the maverick points to same spot on the WPN page.

 

Contact me if you need some help.

 

 

 

Exactly how I do the BSGT procedure since a week or so. Employment of the mav's have been more accurate than ever!

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So ground alignment is no longer possible at all? Seriously?

I find air alignment hard ... can't find a target...is it better to take off, use the base u took of from as some kind of target then head on to do the mission?

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6 minutes ago, Viciam1 said:

So ground alignment is no longer possible at all? Seriously?

I find air alignment hard ... can't find a target...is it better to take off, use the base u took of from as some kind of target then head on to do the mission?

yes ground alignment still is possible, you need to enable ground jettison in order for it to work. also it is rather hard finding something far enough away for a reasonable boresight when on the ground, so while still possible i question how useful that is. not often that you stand somewhere with nothing in front of you for multiple miles for a decent boresight distance, hence why aligning it in the air seems more practical.

i personally use some sort of house along my route to the target to get a good boresight. using TGP in snowplow mode helps you find things easier in front of you.
alternatively if i cant find anything along my route i might just do it on the first target before firing the missile. or use your buddy - fly trail for some miles, does work as well

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1 minute ago, Moonshine said:

yes ground alignment still is possible, you need to enable ground jettison in order for it to work. also it is rather hard finding something far enough away for a reasonable boresight when on the ground, so while still possible i question how useful that is. not often that you stand somewhere with nothing in front of you for multiple miles for a decent boresight distance, hence why aligning it in the air seems more practical.

hmmmm but i used to align it on the ground just looking at the tower window for example...not far at all.

have ED changed it now you need something more far away?

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1 minute ago, Viciam1 said:

hmmmm but i used to align it on the ground just looking at the tower window for example...not far at all.

have ED changed it now you need something more far away?

then you get substantial parallax effects when trying to lock a target at longer ranges..so i suggest finding something between 5-9 nm away for boresighting purpose

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Taking the point for aligning mavericks, how far away it has to be? You guys are just saying "far away" or, "not too close" - but does anyone know what's the actual distance number?

One more thing to note: taking the spot for boresighting few nm away, you can see s(h)it on the maverick Weapon display, since it is so low poly. Is there any way, to make the image better? It used to be ways better in the past.

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if you look closely in my post above, i did give ranges at which I usually get a decent boresight for my mavs (mostly using H or K variants lately). for D and G the range might be a bit less due to poor image clarity. however, if you choose a very distinguishable object (like one house that is standing pretty much alone) it makes it easier because the mav then does not lock the stupid street lamp next to it that you cant see yet or any other nearby structure. so boresighting on an object in a city or town isnt that smart.

Playing with the gain and the contrast does it for me (usually turn it down couple clicks on the rocker switch and the image does improve for me)

what i dont know is the effects on image clarity of user specific graphic settings, quality of monitor people have and for the sake of it, how good your eyesight is. 

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On 3/28/2023 at 1:29 PM, Marco Schaap said:

Exactly how I do the BSGT procedure since a week or so. Employment of the mav's have been more accurate than ever!

yes I agree - very accurate, but you must do a fly over and spend time boresighting in flight, then head on over to target area and go for it ... even using area mode and +- 20nm out you can get a good hit/shack most of the time ...

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