DCS: Kola Discussion

[bmbpdk]

9 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

 

 

Nah, it means the same, but the way you guys say it compared to Norwegians might have made her think about something else. Where in Norway was this? Our dialects vary a lot.
The other day I'd been "pole hunting" and came down from the hills/forest of the North-Eastern side of Oslo and I just had to grab a burger in a Halal burger joint. These two guys entered, a Trønder, (Norwegian from Trondheim), and a Dane. And the Dane ordered pommes frites, but the guy behind the counter goes "Huh"? And the Dane repeats it to my amusement, so I just turn around and say: "You're East of the river now, so you have to say påmfri!", and the Trønder just cracks up. You see, things can easily get "lost in translation" between Norwegians too.

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It was actually close to the border with sweden, we were at a kind of retirement/vacation home, that laid at a big lake (in danish term), with the Danish Blue Barrets, something the union we were in aranged for us with PTSD from deployment.
I remember that we visited the "Goddis fabrikken", a whole shop only with candy! and a place on your border with Sweden that is own by no one and a old military heritage site.
Where the elderly lady was from i do not know.
The dialect in Denmark also changes a lot, move 30km and its like whole new world
Its funny, in Jutland if you order pomfritter you get "påmfri", and im sure that is the same across Denmark.
One thing though, there was a Norwegian gentleman who bought a local "grillbar" we call it, the place where you buy pomfritter, burger etc., he had something called "Stengt pølser", i remember the word stengt clearly, since many of the shops and gasstations we tried to visit in Norway was stengt/closed.
That way i knew that "stengt pølser", was the sausages from the day before that never got sold that had laid cold all night and just re-heated next day, use for a delicasy called "pølsemix" in Danish; pieces of sausages, raw onion, fried onion, pomfritter, currydressing and salt.
It does not taste good with "old" sausages, therefor i never ordere that dish again.
 

[QuiGon]

12 hours ago, Braunn said:

No Norwegians, Russians, Finns or Swedes will buy the Kola map.

Why?

Edited October 30, 2023 by QuiGon

[MAXsenna]

@bmbpdk
Ah, close to the border. She probably spoke "svorsk".
Pølsemix! Yeah, can be a gas station/grillbar special.

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[Gunfreak]

9 hours ago, QuiGon said:

Why?

 

Don't know if it will change his mind or whatever.

But I'm an admin for the Kola map  fan page on Facebook, so I'm one of two that has to let people into the group that wants too. And I can tell you, the number of Norwegians and swedes that want into the group is huge. Followed by fins. Not seen that many Russians, but that's for obvious reasons. But there are some cyclic guys that want in. I might have to do a headcount of the 400+ members but wouldn't surprise me if about 50% were nordics 

[QuiGon]

44 minutes ago, Gunfreak said:

Don't know if it will change his mind or whatever.

I don't want to change his mind. I'm just curious what let him to this assumption in the first place. Seems pretty random to me.

[MAXsenna]

I don't want to change his mind. I'm just curious what let him to this assumption in the first place. Seems pretty random to me.

I smell sarcasm actually.

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[rhelimarekanele]

the norwegian aviation museum is located in bodø, probably not worth it to implement unique buildings like that, but I think it would be somewhat appropriate, bodø just isn't the same without 

[MIghtymoo]

1 hour ago, rhelimarekanele said:

the norwegian aviation museum is located in bodø, probably not worth it to implement unique buildings like that, but I think it would be somewhat appropriate, bodø just isn't the same without 

 

It depends on the era being depicted in the map. The museum was opened in 1994.

[Gunfreak]

11 hours ago, MIghtymoo said:

It depends on the era being depicted in the map. The museum was opened in 1994.

Map will be 2020s

[Captain Orso]

Everything in DCS is about 2010 at the latest. It had to do with when things--aircraft, weapons, etc--come out of being top secret and manuals and research data are published.

[Gunfreak]

12 hours ago, Captain Orso said:

Everything in DCS is about 2010 at the latest. It had to do with when things--aircraft, weapons, etc--come out of being top secret and manuals and research data are published.

Not maps. Syria is around 2016, Sinai is based on the last couple of years.

Aircraft stop around 2010(tho A10 and Harrier has 2015ish weapons and tech)

[Northstar98]

In case anyone hasn't seen the post on the official roadmap thread, more WIP screenshots were posted on the Orbx Discord:

 

It looks really good so far - I'm really impressed with what I'm seeing and this will definitely be the main map I use going forward.

One thing has got my eye that I don't like though, which is/was also common to the South Atlantic map, if you look where the land meets water, you'll see a sharp, steep, grey incline, which makes it look like all the landmass is sat on a load of concrete and it's particularly noticeable when flying at low altitude. These are all WIP screenshots though, so hopefully Orbx will improve the coastline to make it look more natural (obviously in some areas, such as ports, naval bases and piers it's accurate, but there's plenty of places where it isn't).

Edited November 4, 2023 by Northstar98

[MIghtymoo]

Hope the VR performance will be better than South Atlantic map.

[SibHan]

In the discussion regarding the timeperiod of the map, in the town of Bodø, the map shows buldings that are post 2000s, while having buildings that are pre 2000s at the same time, so I dont think the map, as it is now, repesents a spesific time.

[AKarhu]

6 hours ago, Northstar98 said:

One thing has got my eye that I don't like though, which is/was also common to the South Atlantic map, if you look where the land meets water, you'll see a sharp, steep, grey incline, which makes it look like all the landmass is sat on a load of concrete and it's particularly noticeable when flying at low altitude. These are all WIP screenshots though, so hopefully Orbx will improve the coastline to make it look more natural (obviously in some areas, such as ports, naval bases and piers it's accurate, but there's plenty of places where it isn't).

I can't speak for South Atlantic, but something like that is quite common where (sea) ice is a thing in the north. As the ice grinds away any vegetation and such, what is left behind is a band of barrow rock faces and boulders. Obviously, it is more 'detailed' feature up close, but such a band is still a thing in reality on many coastlines.

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[Northstar98]

1 hour ago, AKarhu said:

I can't speak for South Atlantic, but something like that is quite common where (sea) ice is a thing in the north. As the ice grinds away any vegetation and such, what is left behind is a band of barrow rock faces and boulders. Obviously, it is more 'detailed' feature up close, but such a band is still a thing in reality on many coastlines.

On the South Atlantic map there is (or perhaps was) a nearly vertical, smooth, uniform, light-grey band where the sea meets land (even from right up close), making the landmass almost look like it's sat on concrete (as you'd expect to see around ports for instance). The sudden, uniform incline, combined with islets that look completely flat and it almost makes them look like they were cut out with a cookie cutter.

Of course, real-life shots of the area (Bodø) does show a lighter, rocky band. But it's clearly not uniform and clearly resembles rocks (see this shot of Lille Hjartøya, taken from Bodø, highlights this relatively clearly).

However, immediately to the east-south-east of Bodø Air Station, there is an islet (Skanseholmen), visible in the 7th screenshot. In the screenshot, it very much looks like what I described above - looking like it was cut-out with a cookie cutter, looking almost flat with near-vertical, concrete-looking borders. The real thing should like this (more rocky and irregular).

Of course, these are still WIP shots and from further away it is a little harder to judge.

Edited November 4, 2023 by Northstar98

[AKarhu]

Yes, I do pretty much know what those look like - both from the air and when walking on.

[MAXsenna]

3 hours ago, AKarhu said:

Yes, I do pretty much know what those look like - both from the air and when walking on.

You guys talking about "svaberg"? 

[BBCRF3]

The airfields are poor and not alive

[Northstar98]

1 hour ago, BBCRF3 said:

The airfields are poor and not alive

In what way?

And hard disagree, Rovaniemi (1st screenshot) and Olengorsk/Olenya (2nd screenshot), look very good to my eyes - I think Orbx has captured the look (particularly of Olengorsk/Olenya) very good comparing them with satellite imagery.

[BBCRF3]

1 час назад, Northstar98 сказал:

Каким образом?

И трудно с этим не согласиться, Рованиеми (1-й скриншот) и Оленгорск / Оленья (2-й скриншот), на мой взгляд, выглядят очень хорошо - я думаю, Orbx очень хорошо передала внешний вид (особенно Оленьгорска / Оленья), сравнивая их со спутниковыми снимками.

Olenya airfield looks like this

Edited November 5, 2023 by BBCRF3

[Northstar98]

15 minutes ago, BBCRF3 said:

Olenya airfield looks like this

https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-altay/5272526/2a0000017c62f028b0dfdb78cb71a73aa728/XXXL

https://content-21.foto.my.mail.ru/community/ovvakul-77/499/h-2633.jpg

Ah, I see.

To tell you the truth I was mostly looking at textures (it's quite difficult to see undulating terrain on a 2D satellite image), but yes - there I am with you. Hopefully Orbx can make the geometry more like the real thing.

[Romka51]

В 05.11.2023 в 14:30, Northstar98 сказал:

Ah, I see.

To tell you the truth I was mostly looking at textures (it's quite difficult to see undulating terrain on a 2D satellite image), but yes - there I am with you. Hopefully Orbx can make the geometry more like the real thing.

Everything is good in this regard! You just need to study the screenshots well!

[Northstar98]

1 hour ago, Romka51 said:

Everything is good in this regard! You just need to study the screenshots well!

Oh yes! You're absolutely right!

It definitely isn't flat.

[tripod3]

if about 40% of the map were completed in about a year, then most likely we will get early access by 1-2 quarters of 2025.