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10 минут назад, bies сказал:

Basically half of "not cool" features you mentioned are awesome. No MFDs or glass cockpit make it most appealing to me.

For me too This is typical "not cool options" that some kind of "Hornet users" mean😄 . I added them just to joking bcoz this interceptor not need any of them (also gun that will add weight)🙂 I hope now you understand) But anyway, need to show to ppl that this is not usual aircraft)

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I both do and do not want ED to know how much I'd be willing to pay for a full-fidelity MiG-25. (Hint - it's a lot). It is hands-down my grail aircraft for DCS. Well... that and a MiG-21-93. 😜

The MiG-25 would be a phenomenal addition to the growing Cold War roster, and an excellent adversary for both the F-4 and the F-14, depending on the era and setting. I think it would be an absolute monster in Cold War multiplayer, especially the PD with look-down radar capability. 

Obviously the MiG-25 is no dogfighter, but it would make for some really interesting hunter/hunted scenarios, bomber escort, high-alt reconnaissance and/or fleet defence. Especially if aircraft like the B-58 Hustler, Tu-22 Blinder and SR-71 were modelled along with it as AI assets. 

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2 часа назад, MickV сказал:

It is hands-down my grail aircraft for DCS.

This is really what I want from DCS: not spiner dogfighter, not hi-tech but big and powerfull spaceship that will have old and pretty avionics, some uniq amo and that will look like dinosaur that will land and scare all aircrafts on the stand😄 That will be Dodge RAM1500 in jets world, all will respect it and want to hear sound of your engines) Officially half of my time I fly Aerobatics Online server and mostly in big formations, so would be cool to see MiG-25 formation in DCS some day...dreams...

2 часа назад, MickV сказал:

especially the PD with look-down radar capability. 

PD has IR scaner so you will be able to lock target and it will not hear any warning) But radar will be also good to use. PD has modified radar that able to search from 30km till 50m height🙂

2 часа назад, MickV сказал:

Obviously the MiG-25 is no dogfighter

never say never😄 who knows how they fought against F-4/F-15/F-18/other ships in Egipt and Persian Gulf) But as for me, I just want to feel this big and heavy elephant, to feel its engins and check all systems. Quantity of versions (PD/RB/BM) seems not te reason not to do them) Even on Enigma Cold War server you can`t to use amo with recon ops at the same time)

Found a bit more info: Avialogs: Aviation Library - Самолет типа 02б - Mig 25BR

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4 hours ago, Logan54 said:

PD has IR scaner so you will be able to lock target and it will not hear any warning

I'd very sceptical about its performance, esp. look down.

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7 hours ago, draconus said:

I'd very sceptical about its performance, esp. look down.

All IRST are hugely overperforming in DCS right now, but they are being reworked to interact with atmospheric conditions, clouds. This will reduce their effectifeness dramatically making them useful only is specific situations, like IRL.

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interview with a former lieutenant colonel of the troops
Air defense of the USSR. There is a lot of unique information here (from real life experience) ED can use it or contact with him.

 

 

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Flown on Su-33 with full loadout (a lot of bombs and S-13 pods) so it provide also big air drag (33-34 tons total) I pushed stick up to 4.5-4.7G . This mission on Nevada map. If MiG-25 is able to do this moves with his heavy weight (34 tons) in close dogfight as wing supporting more maneurable aircraft....wow. 

Tacview-20230601-062622-DCS-Neveda_training.zip.acmi

second track with MiG-25PD mod

Tacview-20230601-092951-DCS-Neveda_training.zip.acmi

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On 5/30/2023 at 7:11 PM, MickV said:

 a MiG-21-93. 😜

 

Tell me who ED wants eliminated.

Provided they give me a 21-93, I will do it.

That said, if I had to pick a Foxbat? MiG-25R. Let's get some recon hijinks.

Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!

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https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0324/1553700.pdf
 

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0324/1553701.pdf
 

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0324/1553702.pdf
 

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0324/1553703.pdf
 

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0324/1553704.pdf
 

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0324/1553705.pdf
 

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0324/1553706.pdf

 

Aircraft MiG-25P. Technical description. Book II. Armament (1972)

https://disk.yandex.ru/d/OEpxqudk47SN5A
"Aircraft MiG-25P. Technical description. Book V: Electronic equipment (1972).

https://disk.yandex.ru/d/-VNMlXARKNYTCg

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/mig-25p-weapons-system.39524/#post-536982
 

 

whenever we get that manual we should be good

 

i rechecked the FOIA website DIA response to complex requests in now “only” 872 buisness days. My request was sent to them in December so that’s sometime in 2026 if things go well.

 

 

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17 минут назад, F-2 сказал:

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0324/1553700.pdf
 

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0324/1553701.pdf
 

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0324/1553702.pdf
 

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0324/1553703.pdf
 

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0324/1553704.pdf
 

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0324/1553705.pdf
 

https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0324/1553706.pdf

 

Aircraft MiG-25P. Technical description. Book II. Armament (1972)

https://disk.yandex.ru/d/OEpxqudk47SN5A
"Aircraft MiG-25P. Technical description. Book V: Electronic equipment (1972).

https://disk.yandex.ru/d/-VNMlXARKNYTCg

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/mig-25p-weapons-system.39524/#post-536982
 

 

whenever we get that manual we should be good

 

i rechecked the FOIA website DIA response to complex requests in now “only” 872 buisness days. My request was sent to them in December so that’s sometime in 2026 if things go well.

 

 

wow... how?)))

So much info, thanx for sharing👍 Hope this will help😇

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I've been against this in the past, but after a ton of research I have changed my mind. I do think it would have to be a multi version aircraft. But that is becoming normal for DCS modules. I also think it's right up the old Bellsimteck teams ally. Once the Hind is done this would be a cool project. You would need the Interceptor, Reconnocence, and SEAD versions in my opinion. The SEAD version would be particularly valuable in a late cold War type scenario. Working with the Fishbed, Flogger, and Hind it would ba a valuable asset to clear out SAMs. Especially going up against the Patriot. It's got the speed to get out of doge if fighter are inbound too. The Interceptor version would struggle in air to air if it was Alone. But it wouldn't be alone. It would be backed up by Fishbeds, and Floggers. Remember the Soviets were supposed to have the numbers advantage. I've often thought a good tactic would be to have the Foxbats go in for the BVR fight. Just to tie up the Western fighters, and maybe thin them out a bit. Then turn and run letting the Fishbeds git close and mix it up a bit. It's a BVR Fox one fighter. But a good one. Remember this this did kill a Hornet. It did damage an Egale, and it did get close enough to a pair of Egales to be engaged in a classic dogfight. If those Egale driver hadn't picked the Foxbats on the deck up visually then it's likely that the Egale wouldn't have its undefeated record. Point is this thing was a dangerous fighter before the days of the AMRAAM. It would bring some much needed capabilities to the Reds. It would be a super cool and unique aircraft in DCS. And it would fit right into the mix of late cold War jets and choppers already in DCS and on the way. The good news about multiple versions is they are each much simpler then any modern multi role fighter. 

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The Foxbat by far is my favorite Soviet era jet. 

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The fact that MiG-25 could reach 3400 km/h and very high altitude is fascinating, and out of all DCS planes, the Foxbat has the right to be immortalized in DCS World simulator. Too bad we get more F-15A, B, C, D, E and alike but not unique Cold War era machines. 

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1 hour ago, Iron_Man said:

F-15A, B, C, D,

We don't have them, they would be great though, and this are classic Cold War fighters as much as MiG-25.

Still i hope some day MiG-25 will become declassified enough to be possible to make it as full fidelity DCS module.

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1 hour ago, bies said:

We don't have them, they would be great though, and this are classic Cold War fighters as much as MiG-25.

Still i hope some day MiG-25 will become declassified enough to be possible to make it as full fidelity DCS module.

I was told by someone connected to a 3rd party devs when I mentioned I was working on getting Mig-25p docs that getting Mig-25pd wouldn’t be very difficult. So while I’m still waiting for them it seems doing a better version could be done if their was any willingness.

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49 minutes ago, F-2 said:

I was told by someone connected to a 3rd party devs when I mentioned I was working on getting Mig-25p docs that getting Mig-25pd wouldn’t be very difficult. So while I’m still waiting for them it seems doing a better version could be done if their was any willingness.

It would be nice.

On the other hand a group of modders planned to make a MiG-25P, but after trying to obtain the documentation they concluded it's still classified to the point it wouldn't be possible to make even a reasonably realistic MOD and decided to go for MiG-25RB instead.

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7 minutes ago, bies said:

It would be nice.

On the other hand a group of modders planned to make a MiG-25P, but after trying to obtain the documentation they concluded it's still classified to the point it wouldn't be possible to make even a reasonably realistic MOD and decided to go for MiG-25RB instead.

I told them if I get my docs they can have them. But DIA FOIA take eternity 

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