Now that SINAI is out... how long for F15E ?

[QuiGon]

16 hours ago, ECTAE said:

This time I'll vote with my wallet. No new modules until F15E. It's crazy <profanity> that I paid for months ago stil not released but all of a sudden a map that nobody asked for is here.

Well, why did you pre-purchase the F-15E without any release date provided? Sorry, but that's totally on you. I learned long ago, that I better wait with pre-ordering to the last moment, when I have the highest possible certainty about a product (including a release date) and can still get the pre-order bonus. That applies to all games (and other products), not just DCS. No one forced you to pre-order at the moment pre-ordering became available. That was your own decision.

Edited June 9, 2023 by QuiGon

[SouthernCross]

7 minutes ago, QuiGon said:

Well, why did you pre-purchase the F-15E without any release date provided? Sorry, but that's totally on you. I learned long ago, that I better wait with pre-ordering to the last moment, when I have the highest possible certainty about a product (including a release date) and can still get the pre-order bonus. That applies to all games (and other products), not just DCS. No one forced you to pre-order at the moment pre-ordering became available. That was your own decision.

 

Didn't know ED could be this dirty.

But yes, I am on the last moment pre-order team now.

[QuiGon]

9 minutes ago, SouthernCross said:

Didn't know ED could be this dirty.

But yes, I am on the last moment pre-order team now.

Nothing dirty about it. It's an offer to pre-order a product that doesn't have a release date yet. That's really not uncommon in the gaming industry and there is nothing deceiving about it. It's up to the customer if he/she wants to make that purchase already or wait till more infos become available.

It would be dirty if there would have been a release date and the product would not be released by then, but that's not the case here.

Edited June 9, 2023 by QuiGon

[SouthernCross]

32 minutes ago, QuiGon said:

Nothing dirty about it. It's an offer to pre-order a product that doesn't have a release date yet. That's really not uncommon in the gaming industry and there is nothing deceiving about it. It's up to the customer if he/she wants to make that purchase already or wait till more infos become available.

It would be dirty if there would have been a release date and the product would not be released by then, but that's not the case here.

 

Holding a ready product from paid customer. That is dirty in my eyes.

 

[AhSoul]

5 minutes ago, SouthernCross said:

Holding a ready product from paid customer. That is dirty in my eyes.

 

Or it's not actually ready. We don't know either way.....

Edited June 9, 2023 by AhSoul

[Fromthedeep]

33 minutes ago, AhSoul said:

Or it's not actually ready. We don't know either way.....

According to Razbam it's ready enough. But of course that means very little. ED has no problems with releasing products that aren't ready and neither does Razbam. It could be held back for many reasons but unfortunately we'll never know the actual one.

[pii]

10 hours ago, munckmb said:

Because this is THE map to fly the SE!

Still makes no sense, if so sell it as a bundle as they've done before.

But in case you all missed it, my post was to ONE specific post, about "suspicions" aka Factless BS. I wasn't looking for more factless BS I was subtly trying to stop it. I failed, but thanks for playing. 

[hotrod525]

6 hours ago, AhSoul said:

Or it's not actually ready. We don't know either way.....

 

Wouldnt be pavaned on so many YT channels if not "ready for EA" (according to past experience).

I'm still convince this is more about Sinai being release first than the F15E not ready.

[AhSoul]

2 minutes ago, hotrod525 said:

Wouldnt be pavaned on so many YT channels if not "ready for EA" (according to past experience).

I'm still convince this is more about Sinai being release first than the F15E not ready.

It's as likely as any other explanation. They're not going to tell us though

[pii]

On 6/8/2023 at 2:49 PM, jeffreymg said:

I agree, I think no one should buy the Sinai map till we get a more robust answer for when the F-15E will come out which we have already paid for.

 

JeffG

Too late

Edited June 10, 2023 by pii

[Iron Sights]

The E will more than likely come as a Fourth of July release. It looks like they might be lining up for that.

[munckmb]

On 6/8/2023 at 7:49 PM, jeffreymg said:

I agree, I think no one should buy the Sinai map till we get a more robust answer for when the F-15E will come out which we have already paid for.

 

JeffG

You want to punish a company who has no say in what module ED releases first? That's wrong on so many levels!

[StrikeWolf]

18 minutes ago, munckmb said:

You want to punish a company who has no say in what module ED releases first? That's wrong on so many levels!

I do believe you misread that completely. Sinai isn’t from Razbam, so how would that hurt them?

[VirusAM]

Didn't know ED could be this dirty.
But yes, I am on the last moment pre-order team now.

There is nothing dirty about this.
As my colleague quigon wrote above, no-one forced you to pre-order without any date indication.
Also you guys keep hypothesizing (with wrong guessing or informations) too much without knowing things. I won't comment further for obvious reasons
Also I don't recall either ED nor Razbam (officially) announcing any release date..

Holding a ready product from paid customer. That is dirty in my eyes.
 

did you try it and so you know it is ready?
I get that you want to play with the new toy... everyone here wants...but I don't think that the waiting will be forever

[munckmb]

2 hours ago, StrikeWolf said:

I do believe you misread that completely. Sinai isn’t from Razbam, so how would that hurt them?

"no one should buy the Sinai map..."

That is exactly what I mean. He wants to boycot the Sinai developer because ED decides to release Sinai before SE. Not cool, those guys have nothing to do with the Eagle.

[Hiob]

Stop feeding the trolls maybe?

[TheGuardian]

2 hours ago, VirusAM said:

There is nothing dirty about this.
As my colleague quigon wrote above, no-one forced you to pre-order without any date indication.
Also you guys keep hypothesizing (with wrong guessing or informations) too much without knowing things. I won't comment further for obvious reasons
Also I don't recall either ED nor Razbam (officially) announcing any release date..

So did you try it and know it is ready?
I get that you want to play with the new toy... everyone here wants...but I don't think that the waiting will be forever

ED does this stuff to themselves. Their lack of communication and transparency is annoying at the very least and its been this way for years. All we ever get is "when we have information we will share it" and they lock the thread. There is nothing wrong with estimated release dates or openly talking about issues with releasing modules, it's just not a business model they wish to adhere to. It sucks but it is their right. Just wish they didn't get butt hurt when we question them is all.

[jeffreymg]

You are right, I was just frustrated. But that’s OK. I will wait on the F-15E. I have just installed the Janes F-15 strike eagle,and I’ll mess with that until the pre-order comes out.

jeffg

[Despayre]

4 hours ago, TheGuardian said:

<snip>... There is nothing wrong with estimated release dates or openly talking about issues with releasing modules, it's just not a business model they wish to adhere to. <snip>

haha, you must be new here... ANY time there's even a WHIFF of a release date (real or imagined), and it's not met, the entire forum seems to lose its mind for a week.

(... and just to be clear, it's actually not the entire forum, it's just that, on the internet, as always, a small group of whiners that don't understand anything that's going on make a vastly disproportionate amount of noise)

Edited June 11, 2023 by Despayre

[impendingjoker]

On 6/8/2023 at 2:02 PM, pii said:

Makes no sense. Why not delay the map and push out the f-15 that's been in preorder for months?

 

It's not even been in pre-order that long. The Apache was delayed about 6 months and didn't even come out till March of 2022 when they said it was going to be out in December 2021, and the pre-orders launched even earlier than that. So get your panties out of your butt.

[impendingjoker]

On 6/8/2023 at 2:32 PM, ECTAE said:

This time I'll vote with my wallet. No new modules until F15E. It's crazy <profanity> that I paid for months ago stil not released but all of a sudden a map that nobody asked for is here.

It's not even been in pre-order that long. The Apache was delayed about 6 months and didn't even come out till March of 2022 when they said it was going to be out in December 2021, and the pre-orders launched even earlier than that. So get your panties out of your butt. Also, you are only denying yourself by not buying the Sinai map when there are literally a dozen other aircraft you could be using on it right this moment but instead you want to throw a temper tantrum like a petulant child. I bought the map and love it, and have no regrets about it what so ever.

On 6/8/2023 at 10:14 PM, StrikeWolf said:

Yet it has been said that ED requested Razbam to push it back... Seems ED is more at fault to push out Sinai over the F-15E. End of the day it's their choice on if they boycott the Sinai map due to F-15E not being released and it being in Pre-Order for awhile now.

But it has only been on Pre-order since February that isn't really that long of a pre-order window. The Apache was delayed about 6 months and didn't even come out till March of 2022 when they said it was going to be out in December 2021, and the pre-orders launched even earlier than that. So get your panties out of your butt. Also, you are only denying yourself by not buying the Sinai map when there are literally a dozen other aircraft you could be using on it right this moment but instead you want to throw a temper tantrum like a petulant child. I bought the map and love it, and have no regrets about it what so ever.

[impendingjoker]

On 6/8/2023 at 2:49 PM, jeffreymg said:

I agree, I think no one should buy the Sinai map till we get a more robust answer for when the F-15E will come out which we have already paid for.

 

JeffG

What are you a petulant child? The Sinai map isn't even made by ED so why are you punishing them for your childish point of view? It's like saying you won't buy a new GPS for your car because the post office hasn't delivered your new seat cushions yet. I thought DCS was a place for mature people but it would seem that I was wrong. Nothing but a lot of children in this thread.

[TheGuardian]

12 hours ago, Despayre said:

haha, you must be new here... ANY time there's even a WHIFF of a release date (real or imagined), and it's not met, the entire forum seems to lose its mind for a week.

(... and just to be clear, it's actually not the entire forum, it's just that, on the internet, as always, a small group of whiners that don't understand anything that's going on make a vastly disproportionate amount of noise)

 

not new around here I was just saying in general not really at ED anyway cause I know that's not how they operate. 100% on that last part though. We cause a lot of our problems through not understanding the information ED and 3rd Party is putting out there. Oh well, all we can do it wait. 

[pii]

15 hours ago, impendingjoker said:

It's not even been in pre-order that long. The Apache was delayed about 6 months and didn't even come out till March of 2022 when they said it was going to be out in December 2021, and the pre-orders launched even earlier than that. So get your panties out of your butt.

Get my panties out of my butt? lol looks like we got a tough guy here. Take a hike, tough guy, and stop thinking bout my underwear..

 

[pii]

On 6/8/2023 at 10:30 PM, Despayre said:

Right. Which is a far far cry from "makes no sense".

and your post makes no sense. Congratulations!