fixed Aileron TRIM inverted

[Lt_Jaeger]

The trimming via trim hat only works (for a "normal" joystick) if the FFB setting in misc (?) is turned off. 

Tested with linear and non linear setting in special tab. 

[Flappie]

I cannot reproduce your issue in current OB.

Can you please attach a short track showing the issue along with your "Saved Games/DCS.../Config/optons.lua" file?

[Lt_Jaeger]

Here you go. I only did FFB ON/OFF with the non-linear setting

 

 

FFB on non linear.trk Options_FFB-on_non-linear.lua FFB off non linear.trk

Options_FFB-off_non linear.lua

Edited January 15, 2023 by Lt_Jaeger

[Lt_Jaeger]

Btw, I did not fly. In the working condition, plane will get trimmed in accordance with the Stabilisator movement. Oviously it won't in the other state. 

[havebug]

Don't know if this was already reported... I installed this module few days ago for a trial period.

I noticed that the assignment for trimming the alieron is inverted: for example if I move the hat switch to the left the aircraft lean to the right and so the other way round pushing right (the animation is correct though)

[Cab]

FWIW I just checked mine and both animations and flight characteristics are behaving correctly 

[havebug]

I launched a free flight instant mission and after some  aerobatics  I noticed this behaviour. I'll save some time later on to record a short clip and/or save the track.

[Cab]

7 minutes ago, havebug said:

I launched a free flight instant mission and after some  aerobatics  I noticed this behaviour. I'll save some time later on to record a short clip and/or save the track.

Does it behave any differently at the start of the mission? Before the aerobatics?

[razo+r]

Make sure your bindings are actually correct and that the game flight mode or whatever is called is turned off in your settings.

[havebug]

Issue is confirmed. I have uploaded a video.

Please note I have a Force Feedback Joystick and the trim actually cause the Joystick to move in the wrong direction.

 

 

 

freeflight.trk

[Cab]

Great video evidence. You sold me.

I have no idea why it's behaving that way for you.

[havebug]

Yeah, I guess it must be something wrong with the implementation for Force Feedback centering logic.

Obviously a quick workaround is to invert the aileron trim assignment and it works just fine. 

...but, It would be nice if developement team could put a patch on this.

I'm pretty sure it is not a lot of work...

[razo+r]

People have complained about a faulty FFB implementation since the release of the module. I would not get my hopes up on a fix, as sad as it sounds.

[Flappie]

@havebug Please attach your options.lua file (from Saved Games/DCS.../Config). I'll see if I can reproduce the issue.

I have a MSFFB2. What do you have?

[havebug]

I have a VPForce Rhino FFB

 

PS: I own an old MSFFB2 ( I don't use anymore) that had several issue with FFB (kind of axis swap or similar, don't remember)

options.lua

[Flappie]

OK, I'm able to reproduce this issue with my MSFFB2. It seems to only happen with FFB joysticks (can't reproduce this with my Warthog).

I'll report this issue.

 

[Bucic]

Flappie The Tigerbearer

[Flappie]

1 hour ago, Bucic said:

Flappie The Tigerbearer

I have no idea what it means, but I'm flattered anyway.

[Flappie]

Hi @Lt_Jaeger. Sorry, it's been a year already. I've tried your options.lua and your tracks. I do see you cannot use the trim when FF is on, but as soon as I take control of the track (with FFB set to on for me as well), I can use the trim as usual.

Are you still having the issue?

[audax]

Trimming works with my FFB joystick, but left and right are switched. So when I trim to the left and I see the ingame hat tilting to the left, the aircraft is trimmed to the right. It maybe has something to do with the FFB actually moving the stick when trimming.

 

€dit: Never mind, just saw the other thread about this problem:

 

Edited February 9, 2024 by audax

[Flappie]

Issue fixed in today's update.