OH-6A by Tobsen and Eightball

[jubuttib]

1 hour ago, MAXsenna said:

Now, how did you get that? Compiled it yourself?
Cheers!


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What Ryan said, it's been out for hours already.

I like to set up notifications for new releases on any mods shared on GitHub.

[Shadok]

Yes, a big improvement in the flight model. And thanks for the special options in the configuration menu, force feedback is well recognized and the show controls option is welcome.

Edited June 3, 2024 by Shadok

[Marshallman]

Awesome update!!!

REVISED Settings!!!  Pitch  Roll  Pedals  Collective   Trim settings on Warthog.    TRIM requires Button in to trim, Centre stick THEN release trim, smooth and now a stable hands free hover.

This is for my setup listed below!

DOWNLOAD LINK - https://github.com/tobi-be/DCS-OH-6A/releases

 

Edited June 3, 2024 by Marshallman

[MAXsenna]

4 hours ago, HawaiianRyan said:

It's available for download from github.

I went there the second I read your post. I guess eyes go blind first... 

Edit: Didn't bother to click "releases", just saw the linh to the 1.1 zip in the text.  

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Edited June 3, 2024 by MAXsenna

[Morpheus]

For version 1.2. Transparent controls indicator left bottom, file goes in ..... Cockpit\Scripts\ControlsIndicator. Save original file by naming its for example ...ControlsIndicator_Back before copy/paste new one

ControlsIndicator_page.lua

[Marshallman]

On 5/31/2024 at 3:31 PM, Slippa said:

That’d be ideal, more left rudder and not too quick with the collective, and cheaper .

Looking forward to seeing what’s new in the update. I haven’t seen a list yet but I’ve got a bit protective of our little bird already. I’m feeling guilty for leaving her while I learn the Phantom and between you and me, I’ve got one eye on the Cobra and another on the Kiowa too. Probably shouldn’t be flying anything with my eyes the way they are.

I’ll have a think about extensions. I have desk-mounts with my stick between my legs so it depends how things measure up. Also, well, most of you are probably the same, or will be in time but I keep eyeing up flashy lights and clicky-switches and fancy some peripheral therapy .

Wonder what’s coming in the update now? I really must try to focus.

 

Ah, I was writing while the list was posted. Nice, looking forward to it.

 

In order to try an extension, just get an old broomstale, cut to length and insulation tape it to your joystick. then you get the feel of an extension.

[jubuttib]

8 hours ago, Shadok said:

force feedback is well recognized

With what settings do you get it to work properly for you? My buddy has a Rhino, and was struggling with it yesterday. He couldn't get the trim to work in the way it "should", i.e. the force center moving.

[tobi]

45 minutes ago, jubuttib said:

With what settings do you get it to work properly for you? My buddy has a Rhino, and was struggling with it yesterday. He couldn't get the trim to work in the way it "should", i.e. the force center moving.

You might have to swap axis in the ffb settings of the axis

[heloguy]

53 minutes ago, jubuttib said:

With what settings do you get it to work properly for you? My buddy has a Rhino, and was struggling with it yesterday. He couldn't get the trim to work in the way it "should", i.e. the force center moving.

I had to go to "FFB Tune," swap the axes, and invert the y-axis.

[Shadok]

2 hours ago, jubuttib said:

With what settings do you get it to work properly for you? My buddy has a Rhino, and was struggling with it yesterday. He couldn't get the trim to work in the way it "should", i.e. the force center moving.

Options in the DCS home page (the cranked wheel) > special (between audio and VR) > OH-6A cayuse > timming mode (FFB)

Nothing else concerning my microsoft force feedback 2

[Marshallman]

OK all...further flying and way better than it was!!!

Only thing I am seeing is when pulling high G turns left or right   the torque drops to well below hover requirements around 15 to 20%

Not saying its wrong, but Apache no torque drop, Huey within 10% drop, Gazelle within 10% drop

This is causing erractic flight departures in the Turns.

Anyone else see this or am I wrong??

Nimbus

[tobi]

56 minutes ago, Marshallman said:

OK all...further flying and way better than it was!!!

Only thing I am seeing is when pulling high G turns left or right   the torque drops to well below hover requirements around 15 to 20%

Not saying its wrong, but Apache no torque drop, Huey within 10% drop, Gazelle within 10% drop

This is causing erractic flight departures in the Turns.

Anyone else see this or am I wrong??

Nimbus

How many gs do you pull? 

[jubuttib]

2 hours ago, Shadok said:

OH-6A cayuse > timming mode (FFB)

By the trimming mode do you mean this:

"JOYSTICK WITHOUT SPRINGS OR FFB"?

[Marshallman]

2 hours ago, tobi said:

How many gs do you pull? 

Have to go back and check its basically a 45degree turn with the blades "claking" I will report back

 

Edited June 3, 2024 by Marshallman

[Marshallman]

OK 80kts Left Turn 45 degree turn  on the horizon and it drops the torque and the nose.

Same speed right turn holds the line correctly in the turn

Cant see anything to give me G settings but not impossible to overcome, but it catches you out at low level

Nimbus

 

Just now, Marshallman said:

OK 80kts Left Turn 45 degree turn  on the horizon and it drops the torque and the nose.

Same speed right turn holds the line correctly in the turn

Cant see anything to give me G settings but not impossible to overcome, but it catches you out at low level

Nimbus

 

 

3 hours ago, tobi said:

How many gs do you pull? 

 

[andyc]

15 hours ago, Marshallman said:

Awesome update!!!

REVISED Settings!!!  Pitch  Roll  Pedals  Collective   Trim settings on Warthog.    TRIM requires Button in to trim, Centre stick THEN release trim, smooth and now a stable hands free hover.

This is for my setup listed below!

DOWNLOAD LINK - https://github.com/tobi-be/DCS-OH-6A/releases

 

 

that updated flight model has made a huge difference - using your settings as well - can now hoever no problem - take off need a bit more work - i find i am either using too much or not enough rudder (mostly left it seems). I think when the yellow spring for hotas turns up i will be rocking - feel like i am fighting the spring at the moment

[jubuttib]

To everyone helping out with the FFB, cheers! We got it working!

[LuseKofte]

That update was really something. many thanks

[Slippa]

Cheers for the update.

I can’t grab it yet but will soon, look forward to it .

[heloguy]

6 hours ago, jubuttib said:

By the trimming mode do you mean this:

"JOYSTICK WITHOUT SPRINGS OR FFB"?

Yeah, that's the one you use if you have a FFB stick.

[KeyserSoze62]

I can't make sense of the new trim release feature?  I have all the trim buttons mapped.  Trim reset  and the 4 directional trims all fine and obvious.  Trim release I expected to work like the Apache where you either hold it, get stable and release or fly get stable press it and then re-center your flightstick to regain control.

When i press it in either case it immediately trims to that position but it multiplies my control and the aircraft goes out of control.  There is no ability to re-center joystick and keep flying.

What am I missing?  I have center spring Virpil and I did set the special settings to central position mode.

 

 

[MAXsenna]

6 hours ago, heloguy said:

Yeah, that's the one you use if you have a FFB stick.

Actually no. That one is if you DON'T HAVE springs (N)OR FFB. The wording is bonkers and have always led to confusion. It should just be "springless joystick". Default is for FFB, but to be honest I have never noticed any difference.  

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Edited June 4, 2024 by MAXsenna

[Shadok]

43 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Actually no. That one is if you DON'T HAVE springs (N)OR FFB. The wording is bonkers and have always led to confusion. It should just be "springless joystick". Default is for FFB, but to be honest I have never noticed any difference.  

By "default" do you mean "joystick with spring/central position" ?, with this option my msffb2 react like KeyserSoze62 describe just above.

[MAXsenna]

By "default" do you mean "joystick with spring/central position" ?, with this option my msffb2 react like KeyserSoze62 describe just above.

I haven't tried the 1.2 release yet, but if it was to be equal to every official helicopter module in DCS. The first option would be for instant trim/FFB. The UH-60L module also have the issue were trim gets exponentially doubled every time you press the trim button. Even the new FM in the Gazelle had this before it was fixed. So I imagine adding FFB for helicopters isn't exactly straight forward. So if the option for springless joysticks works, obviously go with that. Even if that option is not for FFB in other modules.
Cheers!

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[gfery]

can you please add skid friction? it feels like sliding around on ice even on hard concrete apron.