fixed internally ZBD-04A Weapon Audio Swapped

[BeforeBroadband]

The ZBD-04A has three weapons. This post refers to the 30mm 2A72 gun (right of main gun), and the 7.62mm Type 86 (left of main gun). The 7.62 sounds like 30mm and vice versa. Google says the 2A72 rate of fire is between 300-330 rpm, and the Type 86 should be 700-800 rpm. Sound is definitely swapped.

Three other minor notes: The 30mm tracers are much more frequent than the 7.62mm. Not sure if that's correct or not. Secondly, the main gun (100mm) is not usable. There's no option to fire it. Lastly, this vehicle is listed in both the 'IFV' and 'APC' armor sub categories in mission editor.

ZBD-04A Guns Issue.trk

Edited December 29, 2023 by BeforeBroadband
Clarity.

[Flappie]

Hi.

I'm able to fire the 100mm "3UOF17" cannon HE rounds. But the rounds seem way too slow (see attached track).

I agree that the 30mm 2A72 gun does not sound like it's spitting 30 mm.

How do you manage to fire the 7.62 gun? I can't find it.

ZBD04.trk

[BeforeBroadband]

Apologies for the late response.

I now see that you can fire the 100mm, and yes, it has the velocity and range of a large water balloon. To hit a target 220 meters away, I have to aim the sight way too high.  To fire the 7.62, you need to press "Fire Secondary Weapon" (left shift+space by default).

100mm Pumpkin Launcher .trk

Edited January 9, 2024 by BeforeBroadband

[NineLine]

From what I can find the gun in question is similar or the same as the 2A70 on things like the BMP-3, with our BMP-3 in the game the gun launches rounds almost the same. Do you have any info that this is incorrect? Thanks.

[BeforeBroadband]

No I don't. I could very well be wrong, and I know you guys (rightly) don't change things based on guesses. I'll admit defeat.   I also noticed the 30mm tracer frequency in game appears correct judging by 1:30 in the video below. Speaking of the BM-3 however, it also has the same 7.62 and 30mm audio swap issue as the ZBD-04A. 

 

[draconus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2A70 found on BMP-3 and licensed built for ZBD-04A.

It's a low-pressure rifled canon/gun-launcher with muzzle velocity of 250m/s - yes, multiple times slower compared to regular tank main canons.

[BeforeBroadband]

That makes sense.  I just read a long quora post that put it in perspective for me: https://qr.ae/pKDZIT

[NineLine]

Ok, so I am going to say there is no issue here then? Everything is good. 

[draconus]

27 minutes ago, NineLine said:

Ok, so I am going to say there is no issue here then? Everything is good. 

No, the main issue (as titled) is still there - sounds for 30mm and 7.62mm are swapped.

sounds.trk

[NineLine]

Ok, thanks, let me check that. 

[NineLine]

I compared to the current BMP which seems almost identical weapon-wise and the sounds match. Do we have any good references for this gun that would suggest it's wrong? 

Edit, I found this

 

I agree the gun sounds a little too much, if not exactly like a MBT gun. I will ask the team as it seems to be the case for the BMP-3 as well.

[BeforeBroadband]

Just to reiterate: in your second video (which I also linked in my third post), the sound of that guy firing the 30mm is the same audible tone and rate of fire as when you fire 7.62 on the ZBD-04A and BMP-3 in DCS. The sounds for the 2A72 (30mm) and PKT 7.62mm weapons have 100% been mistakenly swapped with each other.  Thank you Draconus for your excellent track file.

Edited January 11, 2024 by BeforeBroadband

[uboats]

it's fixed internally, thank you