DLSS "update"

[MoleUK]

Tried both DLSS and DLAA now, on preset J.

DLSS has noticeably improved across the board, but minor ghosting still remains. Can see it on treetops as they passby.

However, DLSS on J seems to want to delete aircraft/dots when they pass in front of cloud cover at a distance, which for me is a non starter.

DLAA on preset J is just a flat improvement across the board with no new downsides as far as I can tell, apart from the performance hit which is supposed to be alleviated by moving to 571.96. No issue with dots/planes getting squashed with only DLAA enabled.

I tried installing 571.96 but immediately got CTD's in DCS when trying to load in so I suspect it was a bad innstall, will try it again tonight.

This is all in VR with quad view enabled as well, so dots/planes getting squashed may be related to DLSS 4 interacting negatively with my aggressive quad view settings.

Edited January 25 by MoleUK

[Silver_]

I also tried the preset J with the latest NVDIA 566.36 and of course I had to modify by script in NVPI to get the J mode (checking this within DCS with DLSstweaksconfig, GlobalForcedPreset in default and  HudOverride actived to check it).  What I notice is more sharpness in the cabin and all well defined small letters, even in the MFDs of the F16 but what I notice outside cockpit is like a water effect, double image sometimes on the ground, nothing of sttutering , the aircrafts are ok without ghosting. This makes the terrain not see, far, clearly. In cockpit, yes, everything is OK. 

My graphic card is a 3090 with Quest 3 , I think that in moderns cards it could goes well.

Edited January 25 by Silver_

[Qcumber]

5 hours ago, MoleUK said:

However, DLSS on J seems to want to delete aircraft/dots when they pass in front of cloud cover at a distance, which for me is a non starter.

Yes. I have noticed this as well. There seems to be a loss of contrast against some backgrounds. 

Also, severe smearing of aircraft against the ground. 

 

[MoleUK]

2 hours ago, Qcumber said:

Yes. I have noticed this as well. There seems to be a loss of contrast against some backgrounds. 

Also, severe smearing of aircraft against the ground. 

 

Yeah it's unfortunate. I wondered if it was just my particular setup, but I've seen a few others pick up on it.

Might mean it's better for the BVR enjoyers.

[BlackReef]

I am noticing significantly more ghosting with the latest DCS update.

 

Im on nvidia 566.36 and DLSSTweaks v0.200.8.0, setting "F"

Edited January 26 by BlackReef

[Fiztex]

В 25.01.2025 в 12:33, MoleUK сказал:

However, DLSS on J seems to want to delete aircraft/dots when they pass in front of cloud cover at a distance, which for me is a non starter.

Try 2 pixel dots, I don't have this problem with them. DLSS quality, PD 1.1, VDXR godlike Quest 3, QV.

Edited January 26 by Fiztex

[Esac_mirmidon]

Im on monitor.

The new dll is way better than before, im really happy with it but i´ve found an issue with water reflections and cast shadows on the sea. Im seeing square effects, specially with movement, and weird shadow cast vanishing in polygon shapes. Someone else have the same issue?

I´ve tried different shadow options, water options, etc but the issue persists.

Edited January 26 by Esac_mirmidon

[Mustang]

New DLL and preset from first impression is exceptional in terms of image quality and motion, I use preset G and all DLSSQualityLevels set to 1.0 with DLSS Tweaks.

 

 

 

 

Edited January 26 by Mustang

[Esac_mirmidon]

56 minutes ago, Mustang said:

New DLL and preset from first impression is exceptional in terms of image quality and motion, I use preset G and all DLSSQualityLevels set to 1.0 with DLSS Tweaks.

 

 

 

 

You dont see that shadow issues on the water with preset G?

[BlackReef]

Where do I get the latest DLL?  And when did it release?  Thank you

[silverdevil]

32 minutes ago, BlackReef said:

Where do I get the latest DLL?  And when did it release?  Thank you

 

[BlackReef]

1 hour ago, silverdevil said:

 

Thank you my friend

[BlackReef]

I have a question and I'm a bit confused.

I have a 4070ti.  I'm on nvidia 566.36 drivers and DLSSTweaks v0.200.8.0

- Should I upgrade to the latest version of DLSSTweaks?  Or does it not matter as long as I manually place the DLL file in the game directory? I'm confused on the purpose of this app.

- If I manually add the DLSS 4 file to DCS, how do I change the presets, especially if I am not using the DLSSTweaks app?

- Will DLSS 4 be released on 1/30/25 anyways?  If that's the case, I can just update through Nvidia app right?

- Can I leverage DLSS swapper app at all, or is that an app that simply just puts the .DLL file in the game for you, which I can do manually anyways..?

 

Thank you!

[sleighzy]

1 hour ago, BlackReef said:

I have a question and I'm a bit confused.

I have a 4070ti.  I'm on nvidia 566.36 drivers and DLSSTweaks v0.200.8.0

- Should I upgrade to the latest version of DLSSTweaks?  Or does it not matter as long as I manually place the DLL file in the game directory? I'm confused on the purpose of this app.

- If I manually add the DLSS 4 file to DCS, how do I change the presets, especially if I am not using the DLSSTweaks app?

- Will DLSS 4 be released on 1/30/25 anyways?  If that's the case, I can just update through Nvidia app right?

- Can I leverage DLSS swapper app at all, or is that an app that simply just puts the .DLL file in the game for you, which I can do manually anyways..?

 

Thank you!

Follow these instructions. DLSSTweaks doesn't do preset J. These instructions will use Nvidia Profile Inspector to did. DLSSTweaks can still be used though to enable the hud debug overlay so that you can verify it worked.

 

[VietGirl]

Hi , just found this on nexusmods ,

https://github.com/emoose/DLSSTweaks

Wrapper DLL that can force DLAA onto DLSS-supported titles, along with tweaking scaling ratios & DLSS 3.1 presets.

Most titles that support DLSS2+ should hopefully work fine with this, but if you find any that don't, or have any other issues, feel free to post in the github issue tracker, or make a post on this NexusMods page.

2025 update: DLSS transformer model was just released, will post an update for DLSSTweaks shortly, for now you might be able to select the preset by choosing preset "G" in the INI. , hope it helps when it's released .

[sleighzy]

3 hours ago, VietGirl said:

Hi , just found this on nexusmods ,

https://github.com/emoose/DLSSTweaks

Wrapper DLL that can force DLAA onto DLSS-supported titles, along with tweaking scaling ratios & DLSS 3.1 presets.

Most titles that support DLSS2+ should hopefully work fine with this, but if you find any that don't, or have any other issues, feel free to post in the github issue tracker, or make a post on this NexusMods page.

2025 update: DLSS transformer model was just released, will post an update for DLSSTweaks shortly, for now you might be able to select the preset by choosing preset "G" in the INI. , hope it helps when it's released .

That doesn't actually work. DLSSTweaks only supports up to G (which is unused). The reason this works for some games is because they then fall back on the default in that library of preset J. This is not true of DCS which will fallback on C instead. You can see this when you enable the dlss debug overlay in DLSSTweaks. You have to use Nvidia Profile Inspector to set J.

[VietGirl]

Hi sleighzy, if you read the bottom of the post you will see that the developer is giong to do an update to work with the new DLSS Tranformer model , we will just have to wait! also the old version works for me , just have to set it to G , ingame it is J !

[Mustang]

I've read in various other forums that presets G and J are the same.

Edited January 28 by Mustang

[sleighzy]

2 hours ago, VietGirl said:

Hi sleighzy, if you read the bottom of the post you will see that the developer is giong to do an update to work with the new DLSS Tranformer model , we will just have to wait! also the old version works for me , just have to set it to G , ingame it is J !

Is that when you yourself are looking at the DLSS hud overlay (turned on in DLSSTweaks)? Or just based on the screenshots in the GitHub issue (as this will be different per game)? It shows C for me in the debug hud when the preset is set to G.

DLSSTweaks Hud overlay enabled and forced preset to G settings from the DLSSTweaks config tool.

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Edited January 28 by sleighzy

[VietGirl]

Hi I start in 2d and the the settings are shown a left-hand bottom of screen.  I you set it at G ,on-screen it will be J .

[sleighzy]

13 minutes ago, VietGirl said:

Hi I start in 2d and the the settings are shown a left-hand bottom of screen.  I you set it at G ,on-screen it will be J .

Weird. It shows as C for me with that setting. So it shows as J for you? Hmmm, I’ll see what I’m doing wrong then. Even with Nvidia Profile Inspector setting to G it still shows as C. Only setting to J displays J for me. 

[diamond26]

I’m using DLSStweaks with preset G and I get J in game and I see a clear difference in clarity without ghosting. I’m using Qpro with QV and full resolution in Oculus and 1.8 focus  resolution and 0.2 peripheral 

[sleighzy]

2 minutes ago, diamond26 said:

I’m using DLSStweaks with preset G and I get J in game and I see a clear difference in clarity without ghosting. I’m using Qpro with QV and full resolution in Oculus and 1.8 focus  resolution and 0.2 peripheral 

Cool. Thanks mate, so definitely something on my end. What Nvidia driver version you on?

[VietGirl]

mine shows J as you can see in screen shots

[sleighzy]

14 minutes ago, VietGirl said:

mine shows J as you can see in screen shots

Ahhh, wonder if that’s the difference. You’re using the wrapper approach with DLSSTweaks, I switched to using the global override method in DLSSTweaks for it a little while ago as was easier, used to do the wrapper so maybe I’ll try that again. Thanks, sorry for the hassles.

Edited January 28 by sleighzy