!!! Microsoft kills WMR with Windows 11 version 24H2 and newer !!!

[Ulukai]

NO WORDS

Windows Mixed Reality headsets no longer work with Windows 11 version 24H2 and newer - Neowin

 

 

[Chief_Biv]

I am on Windows 11 22H2. Windows is inviting me to update my system to 23H2 now. Is anyone else on 23H2 that can confirm it is ok to do the 23H2 Update? My understanding is that we will lose WMR in 24H2 later this year so no more updates after this one?

 

Edited February 10, 2024 by Chief_Biv

[Ulukai]

A guy in the comments below the video wrote, 23H2 is ok per now. 

Te Article shows:
  "In December 2023, Microsoft announced the end of its Windows Mixed Reality VR platform. A little later, the company shared more details about the future of Windows Mixed Reality, promising to remove the platform from future versions of Windows 11" 

For me it sounds like they will delete it complete. Hopefully some smart Coders may developing a alternate software solution.

Edited February 10, 2024 by Ulukai

[winghunter]

Gotta love Microsoft

[bflo]

2 hours ago, Chief_Biv said:

I am on Windows 11 22H2. Windows is inviting me to update my system to 23H2 now. Is anyone else on 23H2 that can confirm it is ok to do the 23H2 Update? My understanding is that we will lose WMR in 24H2 later this year so no more updates after this one?

 

 

I have 23H2 np.   I wish I knew what latter in the year means for 24H2, tomorrow, July, Dec?

[kksnowbear]

24H2 = Second half (H2) 2024; not very likely before July, but likely thereafter, and more so as time goes on.  (I am not privileged to their deployment schedule, and most anything else would be speculative for now).

Edited February 11, 2024 by kksnowbear

[AKA_Clutter]

"Hi, I'm Uncle Bill and I'm here to help!"

IMHO, not the first, not last time, MS has #$% us all.

[Joch1955]

Win 11 23h2 is fine. Make sure to block automatic updates.

This really pisses me off. No word at all on the HP website and they are still selling the G2 with no mention at all of the problem.

[AngleOff66]

Maybe someone who is a member here could write a letter to the EU explaining just whats happening and how much E waste this is going to create?

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/forms/en/ask-ep

 

Edited February 11, 2024 by AngleOff66
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[okopanja]

Is there any indication that vendors producing these VRs would make effort to port this to the new platform?

This is not cheap peace of hardware to be dropped just like that.

[winghunter]

The least M$ could do is open source WMR

[Cab]

According to the linked page below 23H2 will continue to receive security patches until 11 Nov 2025. So it would seem WMR users should be good until then as long as they don't update to 24H2.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/lifecycle/products/windows-11-home-and-pro

[okopanja]

1 hour ago, winghunter said:

The least M$ could do is open source WMR

I would say you need to reach the vendors of VRs, they are supposed to support their products. It is not uncommon that new OS arrives within 10 years of product release.

[Cab]

3 minutes ago, okopanja said:

I would say you need to reach the vendors of VRs, they are supposed to support their products. It is not uncommon that new OS arrives within 10 years of product release.

Agree. I just asked HP on the Reverb G2 page about their plan.

[AndyKrause]

Can someone explain what exactly is happening?

As far as I understood the WMR software and drivers just won't come with any newer versions of Windows anymore. But I understood there's an offline installer and you can still keep using it.

I am confused whether 24H2 is actually going to make the G2 unusuable regardless of whether the WMR software is installed or not.

Microsoft is a dick for what they are doing, but we knew the end of WMR was coming and I have a hard time believing they will completely brick our devices within a few months notice.

[okopanja]

I think the following might stop working (with the little help of ChatGPT):

1. Acer Windows Mixed Reality Headset
2. Dell Visor
3. HP Reverb G2
4. Lenovo Explorer
5. Samsung HMD Odyssey/Odyssey+
6. Asus Windows Mixed Reality Headset

Unless the vendors of headset provided the alternative software support.

[Marshallman]

I would really like to know how to prevent Windows updates once and for all.... I'm currently on 10, I have tried various attempts from the internet to prevent updates..all, up to now have failed. I boot up a day or so later and up comes "restart your computer to install updates"

Winds me through the roof

 

[II.JG1_Vonrd]

InControl will block feature updates like 24H2 while still allowing security updates... for a while at least.

https://www.grc.com/incontrol.htm

[X_legio]

So it's time to move from a g2 to a quest 3 or wait ? Because now there is a chance to sell the g2 in a while will be a brick, or you will have to tweak the system 

[Silver_]

Today I received two WMR updates for OpenXR in the Microsoft Store. I don't know what this is all about.

Edited February 13, 2024 by Silver_

[SkateZilla]

it takes more time, effort, money to remove something that's programmed into the O/S, rather than to just drop it and remove it from their store. (say it's unsupported from whatever date forward). Last time they tried to do a feature removal, it caused issues, as other features still relied on some of the libraries, lol.

99% chance, even after they say it's removed, all the files and system will remain, but MS will say it's un supported.

Long after the death of Windows Media Center Edition, the files are still on my Windows 7 rig, and still work w/ a little tweaking and library registering.

there's way to many users out there for MS to simply wipe it from windows, and even if they did, there's a good chance the community would develop a 3rd party app/driver to interface it with another API.

Edited February 13, 2024 by SkateZilla

[okopanja]

1 hour ago, X_legio said:

So it's time to move from a g2 to a quest 3 or wait ? Because now there is a chance to sell the g2 in a while will be a brick, or you will have to tweak the system 

I am prepared to buy it from you at $1.

37 minutes ago, SkateZilla said:

it takes more time, effort, money to remove something that's programmed into the O/S, rather than to just drop it and remove it from their store. (say it's unsupported from whatever date forward). Last time they tried to do a feature removal, it caused issues, as other features still relied on some of the libraries, lol.

99% chance, even after they say it's removed, all the files and system will remain, but MS will say it's un supported.

Long after the death of Windows Media Center Edition, the files are still on my Windows 7 rig, and still work w/ a little tweaking and library registering.

there's way to many users out there for MS to simply wipe it from windows, and even if they did, there's a good chance the community would develop a 3rd party app/driver to interface it with another API.

The product released in 2020 will be dropped from support, I do not think this is ok.

I was close at some point to buying and I am glad I did not, but the culprits here are both Microsoft and vendors who did not watch for this.

 

[Spartan111sqn]

1 hour ago, Silver_ said:

Today I received two WMR updates for OpenXR in the Microsoft Store. I don't know what this is all about.

 

Did you updated it?, any problem?

[Silver_]

3 hours ago, Spartan111sqn said:

Did you updated it?, any problem?

At the moment, no problems. I updated today.

Edited February 13, 2024 by Silver_

[j9murphy]

I think I read somewhere that it was a holo lens update only, nothing in WMR changed