No carrier ops on Afghanistan?

[Japo32]

I am not going to be the one that put barriers in imagination:

If you checkout this video, this guy raised the sea level 200 meters up. So.. because everymap has sea below the terrain, maybe you could do the same:

 

[draconus]

43 minutes ago, Japo32 said:

If you checkout this video, this guy raised the sea level 200 meters up. So.. because everymap has sea below the terrain, maybe you could do the same

1. Mods don't belong here and it makes the map fictional.

2. It won't work afaik because the surface properties is still kept the same - so no carrier placement over the land - even if it's below the water now.

[Japo32]

testings (can) break barriers.

Edited July 4, 2024 by Japo32

[Hawkeye60]

Did someone say Desert Carrier Ops?

Now if I could only get the cats to work.....

[Slippa]

Maybe needs some escort vessels? 

[MAXsenna]

Watch out for the worms!

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[Nightdare]

I don't get the irritation

 

Last I checked: Navy planes could operate from land bases as well

 

I currently haven't trained any other plane than the F-14 (bar spitfire and Mozzie), so in this map, I'll be operating the turkey from Airstrip E-Z-mode

[Elf1606688794]

On 5/7/2024 at 6:20 PM, Nealius said:

And why should your opinion limit what other people can do? I don't understand why people are so gung-ho about oppressing freedom of choice. You have the freedom to choose just as well as they do if we had some carrier-capable waters added to the map. You could simply choose to not use them instead of cramming your opinion down everyone else's throats.

 

You know you can take off from a carrier on the Persian Gulf map, fly to Afghanistan on that same map, and then load a new mission onto the Afghanistan map? You have the freedom to choose to do this or to not do it.

[exhausted]

On 5/10/2024 at 9:09 PM, Gambit21 said:

Wow...Relax.

He's not imposing anything on you (which is manifestly obvious) He simply stated his preference...he's allowed to do that.

 

 

 

He has a good point, and I think this is exactly what he means by suppressing an opinion you don't agree with.

[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, exhausted said:

He has a good point,

We’ll agree to disagree there. Have a cookie. 

[exhausted]

3 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

We’ll agree to disagree there. Have a cookie. 

That's fine but do you really have to shut down his opinion if your angle is that people can have their opinions? I actually think ED should give some more choices with this map and maybe you're going to shut that down too.

[Elf1606688794]

39 minutes ago, exhausted said:

That's fine but do you really have to shut down his opinion if your angle is that people can have their opinions? I actually think ED should give some more choices with this map and maybe you're going to shut that down too.

No opinions have been shut down in this thread. Only Nineline and Bignewy can really do that.

I do have a couple questions for you. Why does every map need carrier ops? The U.S. Marine Corps flys the same planes as the U.S. Navy correct? If so, why not be a marine on the Afghan map instead of a squid?

[exhausted]

38 minutes ago, Elf1606688794 said:

No opinions have been shut down in this thread. Only Nineline and Bignewy can really do that.

I do have a couple questions for you. Why does every map need carrier ops? The U.S. Marine Corps flys the same planes as the U.S. Navy correct? If so, why not be a marine on the Afghan map instead of a squid?

Because even in Afghanistan, the Marine Corps flew from the sea before they flew from the land. Traversing 200 miles or so of Pakistan does not take very long in a modern jet, especially when you have to do check ins and refuelings on the way.

But the biggest reason is that Harriers and Hornets are limited on their payloads when they take off from the higher elevations in Afghanistan. In fact, the winds at Bagram were so high that the Harriers violated their safety protocols just to land there (not allowed to land in heavy crosswinds).

Edited July 6, 2024 by exhausted

[ruxtmp]

Good to know that the Indian ocean wont even be in a low detailed area, makes it a no buy for me until its on sale for a few dollars and the Harrier will still have to be functional.

Edited July 6, 2024 by ruxtmp

[Gunnar81]

3 hours ago, exhausted said:

Because even in Afghanistan, the Marine Corps flew from the sea before they flew from the land. Traversing 200 miles or so of Pakistan does not take very long in a modern jet, especially when you have to do check ins and refuelings on the way.

But the biggest reason is that Harriers and Hornets are limited on their payloads when they take off from the higher elevations in Afghanistan. In fact, the winds at Bagram were so high that the Harriers violated their safety protocols just to land there (not allowed to land in heavy crosswinds).

 

Use the PG map eastern portion as the mission part 1, once you enter a specific zone fire up the continuation mission in Afghanistan map. And the reverse on the way back, its pretty easy to do in the editor.

[Elf1606688794]

6 hours ago, exhausted said:

Because even in Afghanistan, the Marine Corps flew from the sea before they flew from the land. Traversing 200 miles or so of Pakistan does not take very long in a modern jet, especially when you have to do check ins and refuelings on the way.

But the biggest reason is that Harriers and Hornets are limited on their payloads when they take off from the higher elevations in Afghanistan. In fact, the winds at Bagram were so high that the Harriers violated their safety protocols just to land there (not allowed to land in heavy crosswinds).

 

Is it a fair assumption that you like to do things in the game as they were done historically?

If so, then you'll be launching from land bases sooner rather than later anyway. The Navy didn't keep carriers there forever. My point is that you can choose to accept the map with it's limitations and still have fun doing what you like, or at least partially (no carrier ops). You can still have fun on this map.

[exhausted]

2 hours ago, Elf1606688794 said:

Is it a fair assumption that you like to do things in the game as they were done historically?

If so, then you'll be launching from land bases sooner rather than later anyway. The Navy didn't keep carriers there forever. My point is that you can choose to accept the map with it's limitations and still have fun doing what you like, or at least partially (no carrier ops). You can still have fun on this map.

I can think of 3 really interesting scenarios to have on this map. But GWOT, endless circuits and dropping a bomb ever 50 missions is not one of them. None of Iran is included (current hotspot between Ayatollah and Taliban over water, with Iran flying over Afghanistan with its air force IRL), none of Pakistan (could the Pakistanis go after the new Taliban, now using tons of western equipment?), and battling the Taliban from sea, which now seems impossible without designing missions to jump across maps. Nope, won't be getting this map as it misses on all the main points and would only encourage them.

[Minsky]

So, regarding that 'the map is so huge our engine can't handle the trip to the ocean' claim.

This is the coast of Pakistan, about 250 nautical miles beyond the Afghanistan map boundary.

Blurry textures and no mesh at all, but hey. All we need now is some water: the map has no 'global ocean', so that blue stuff is just a  sludge texture.

[MAXsenna]

So, regarding that 'the map is so huge our engine can't handle the trip to the ocean' claim.
This is the coast of Pakistan, about 250 nautical miles beyond the Afghanistan map boundary.
Blurry textures and no mesh at all, but hey. All we need now is some water: the map has no 'global ocean', so that blue stuff is just a  sludge texture.

It would be fun to revisit Karachi. I wonder if I could find "my house".

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[draconus]

6 hours ago, Minsky said:

So, regarding that 'the map is so huge our engine can't handle the trip to the ocean' claim.

This is the coast of Pakistan, about 250 nautical miles beyond the Afghanistan map boundary.

Blurry textures and no mesh at all, but hey. All we need now is some water: the map has no 'global ocean', so that blue stuff is just a  sludge texture.

Yeah, totally, thanks for the image. We're actually looking at Chabahar, Iran

[exhausted]

9 hours ago, draconus said:

Yeah, totally, thanks for the image. We're actually looking at Chabahar, Iran

There might be a little bit of Pakistan in there