yes - as announced it would be Hornet already out of Early Access?

[norman99]

On 4/12/2024 at 1:39 PM, Rissala said:

it seems odd that there isn't an announcement for official release...

Yeah, this just looks bad.

I'm not going to argue whether all the EA features have been included/finished, but the optics are extremely poor. It looks like a company just trying quietly and discreetly to decide their product is complete, without publicity announcing it. The only reason this would be done, is because ED likely know there'd be substantial pushback form customers re the Hornet's present state.

Again, not saying ED are right or wrong to exit early access, but they definitely keep shooting PR own goals...

Edited April 15, 2024 by norman99

[opps]

If ED is really confident with current F/A-18 status, they would proudly announce out of EA stage for their flag ship module...

[VDV]

and what about DATA card and MUMI page? we miss them for ages...

[Rissala]

On 4/15/2024 at 12:41 PM, norman99 said:

It looks like a company just trying quietly and discreetly to decide their product is complete, without publicity announcing it.

On 4/15/2024 at 12:41 PM, norman99 said:

Again, not saying ED are right or wrong to exit early access

Same thoughts from me as well. I am not to judge when the plane is ready for release. It isn't my product nor my company

BUT,

This sort of "quiet" release implies low confidence in the product. Actually no, this absolutely screams low confindence and a lack of passion for this product. Its just the way it is. No way of getting around it. People in this community will always find out anyways. And in my personal opinion, this type of release is more harmful for this product as opposed to releasing it with full confidence even with its flaws.

ED gave a full trailer with newsletters when a map was released from EA.

I would not even be annoyed that it still has some issues. Nothing is perfect, ever. I believe a lot of people still like the Hornet as a module as much as I do.

But if I worked as a dev for something as defining as the Hornet is for DCS, for more than half a decade, I would find it massively insulting that the result isn't even worth a mention from the company.
Seriously ED, why do it this way? Every 3rd party developer is actually proud of what they do. And you are not?

Edited April 22, 2024 by Rissala

[bkthunder]

There are a number of things missing or wrongly implemented. The FM has several issues, MSI is non existent, radar locking is still problematic, engine nozzles not closing when moving throttles from IDLE etc. 

These things have been reported to no avail. Yet you ask for bug reports, more of our time spent on reporting, only to be censored or thread locked and forgotten? 

Come on guys, let's not tell each other fairy tales, we're too old and we've seen the same movie over and over again. 
It's out of EA, ED moved on and the policy is to keep the forums clean, so the product looks good and keeps selling. I've been around long enough and rarely post here for a reason. 
 

[NineLine]

5 minutes ago, bkthunder said:

There are a number of things missing or wrongly implemented. The FM has several issues, MSI is non existent, radar locking is still problematic, engine nozzles not closing when moving throttles from IDLE etc. 

These things have been reported to no avail. Yet you ask for bug reports, more of our time spent on reporting, only to be censored or thread locked and forgotten? 

Come on guys, let's not tell each other fairy tales, we're too old and we've seen the same movie over and over again. 
It's out of EA, ED moved on and the policy is to keep the forums clean, so the product looks good and keeps selling. I've been around long enough and rarely post here for a reason. 
 

No matter what you might think I can assure you work continues on the F/A-18C. If and when we want to make a big fanfare about being out of EA we will do so, but we have things we are still working on. 

As for the comment above about low confidence, that couldn't be farther from the truth. The DCS: F/A-18C is a solid module even with some polishing still needing to be done. 

As far as bug reports we still try and make sure they are all added so the team knows and can prioritize them as needed. I am more of a WWII guy but for modern the F/A-18C is still my personal go-to aircraft. I just upgraded my HOTAS setup with WINWING F/A-18 stuff and I love the aircraft. Again, yes there are some things to be done still and bugs that exist and need to be addressed we will get to them all. 

I honestly am not up on the big fanfare releases because no matter how complete at the time, someone may have an issue with something and honestly fanfare for release feels like a goodbye to development when we still have things we want to do. 

I know some of you might not agree with me, or think I am lying or spinning the truth, but this is all facts. Really the only thing that has changed on the F/A-18C development is some text lines on the store page. 

[inZane]

I see that the description of the module still mentiones early access. This may cause confusion on some people and not sure if it was an oversight. 

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[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

On 4/14/2024 at 3:32 PM, BarTzi said:

 I'm sorry, but '+1 -ing' a bug report seems like the only way to get attention because some of those bugs just remain reported for years. 

I'd have to agree. +1 often means the person is experiencing the same bug to show dev it's not an isolated issue, or simply bumping up the issue because it does not seem to be getting attention or acknowledgement. It's a way of ground feedback that saves repeating/rephrasing the issue. One suggestion may be to have a '+1' button on the original post though that button should have the same awareness creating effect to devs (such as 'bumping' up the issue). Sometimes, devs who mostly monitor their Discord only cause this too because they rarely reply to bug reporting here even though a forum was officially created for their module for that very purpose.