Jester 2.0 (and other new stuff added with F-4 module) when?

[sBinn64]

Hello

 So, I was wondering about the F-14 and when it would receive stuff from the F-4 module, like Jester 2.0, in-game manual, and more. Any word on that?

[captain_dalan]

I think it may be tad too early to ask those questions. 

[JetCat]

Are they really planning to implement these awesome features into the Tomcat?

[draconus]

On 5/29/2024 at 6:52 PM, JetCat said:

Are they really planning to implement these awesome features into the Tomcat?

They said that's the plan, to add some of the new features to other HB modules, maybe not all of them.

[MicroShket]

Bought F-4E only to support HB and stimulate the transition of the subject to the F-14 module.

I hope to hear some news soon, there wasn't anything concerning vital updates on F-14. ED said a month ago that the F-14 - IFLOLS fix is testing, but no news on this anymore. 

[draconus]

17 hours ago, MicroShket said:

Bought F-4E only to support HB and stimulate the transition of the subject to the F-14 module.

If you wanted to just send the right message you should've bought another Tomcat copy. Now they think you want F-4 instead.

[roobarbjapan]

On 6/8/2024 at 1:11 AM, MicroShket said:

Bought F-4E only to support HB and stimulate the transition of the subject to the F-14 module.

I hope to hear some news soon, there wasn't anything concerning vital updates on F-14. ED said a month ago that the F-14 - IFLOLS fix is testing, but no news on this anymore. 

From what we have seen in our group, the IFLOLs appears to be fixed. I’m almost certain it’s not placebo. Before we had to fly a high ball to catch the 3 wire but now center ball seems fine. Also the lso has stopped giving slow calls. 

[captain_dalan]

18 hours ago, roobarbjapan said:

From what we have seen in our group, the IFLOLs appears to be fixed. I’m almost certain it’s not placebo. Before we had to fly a high ball to catch the 3 wire but now center ball seems fine. Also the lso has stopped giving slow calls. 

I hope this is so.  I haven't practiced CASE I's in a while, this actually makes me wanna try them again.

[NAM]

Have anyone notice that in case 3 recovery.. don't hear a word from Jester.

With constant keeping time, altitude and doing maths in marshall stack.

Jester is sorely needed to remind me time remain to get into commencing.

He is only waken up and commented number of wires when I landed

Edited June 11, 2024 by NAM

[draconus]

5 hours ago, NAM said:

Jester is sorely needed to remind me time remain to get into commencing.

Because you're so busy then?

[RustBelt]

17 hours ago, NAM said:

Have anyone notice that in case 3 recovery.. don't hear a word from Jester.

With constant keeping time, altitude and doing maths in marshall stack.

Jester is sorely needed to remind me time remain to get into commencing.

He is only waken up and commented number of wires when I landed

 

Jester is a creative back seat control interface, it’s not a full AI crew member. 

[Kondor77]

Just having F-14 Jester use the 'context' button to highlight different TWS targets, or change the target/launch order would be fantastic. 

[draconus]

1 hour ago, Kondor77 said:

Just having F-14 Jester use the 'context' button to highlight different TWS targets, or change the target/launch order would be fantastic. 

You're asking for unrealistic features. RIO can only set some targets as do-not-attack or mandatory-attack. It's the WCS that decides on Phoenix TWS launch priorities.

[Kondor77]

8 hours ago, draconus said:

You're asking for unrealistic features. RIO can only set some targets as do-not-attack or mandatory-attack. It's the WCS that decides on Phoenix TWS launch priorities.

He should still be able to highlight different ones though. 

[draconus]

4 hours ago, Kondor77 said:

He should still be able to highlight different ones though. 

For the alt/spd/hdg/rng info? Ok.

[captain_dalan]

8 hours ago, draconus said:

For the alt/spd/hdg/rng info? Ok.

And then why not set the selected/highlighted contacts to "do not attack"? After all, it's what we do now when we jump into the backseat. 

[draconus]

9 minutes ago, captain_dalan said:

And then why not set the selected/highlighted contacts to "do not attack"? After all, it's what we do now when we jump into the backseat. 

Best to teach Jester to do it but yes, fine to me as new command.

[MaverickGoose]

As dedicated HB F14 it will be very interesting they add update as priority on Jester v2 and capability to write on canopy for fun or not l really wish it.  

Also if l m not wrong they should integrate sonic cone boom and Wings vapor but l can understand for this one will be not easy to implemented as F14 have wingsweep.

 

[captain_dalan]

On 6/14/2024 at 8:21 PM, draconus said:

Best to teach Jester to do it ...

In an ideal world, yes. However, i can't see how you can make Jester communicate with a wingman, especially a human one, to sort bandits out and coordinate actions. 

[bonesvf103]

On 6/13/2024 at 10:30 AM, draconus said:

You're asking for unrealistic features. RIO can only set some targets as do-not-attack or mandatory-attack. It's the WCS that decides on Phoenix TWS launch priorities.

Well, you can to an extent.  Let's say there are three targets prioritized.  Select target #1 by hooking it with the HCU then press the "next launch" button and target #2 is now target #1, the old target #1 is now target #2, and target #3 stays the same.

On an off note, I always wondered if I could fire 2 Phoenixes in TWS at the same target. I found if you hook the target you fired on then hit "next launch" it will allow you to fire on it again, but the countdown on that target for Phoenix #1 disappears so I don't know if Phoenix #1 just goes active from there or is just dropped.

v6,

boNes

[captain_dalan]

On 6/11/2024 at 6:23 AM, roobarbjapan said:

From what we have seen in our group, the IFLOLs appears to be fixed. I’m almost certain it’s not placebo. Before we had to fly a high ball to catch the 3 wire but now center ball seems fine. Also the lso has stopped giving slow calls. 

Most of my on-speed 3 wires tonight seem to be a ball or two high, but it may just be dumb luck, or me messing up some fine detail, after all, i hadn't done this in months. I wish i made a recording. 

8 hours ago, bonesvf103 said:

Well, you can to an extent.  Let's say there are three targets prioritized.  Select target #1 by hooking it with the HCU then press the "next launch" button and target #2 is now target #1, the old target #1 is now target #2, and target #3 stays the same.

On an off note, I always wondered if I could fire 2 Phoenixes in TWS at the same target. I found if you hook the target you fired on then hit "next launch" it will allow you to fire on it again, but the countdown on that target for Phoenix #1 disappears so I don't know if Phoenix #1 just goes active from there or is just dropped.

v6,

boNes

Huh, good question. 

[LePaul]

I'm hoping for improvements since I can't seem to get Jester to lock up enemy targets close to me (25 miles) but he certainly likes calling out bogeys 80+ miles out.  I can't seem to figure out how to make him prioritize anything close by.  I have to jump into the F10 view a lot to see what's really being locked on...because he won't identify the close ones!  

Also, is the Tomcat ECM notoriously weak or am I doing something wrong?  I'm flying Cold War servers and I get the Tomcat is a big radar target, but evasive moves, chaff/flare and ECM don't seem to work most of the time.  (Well, it kills to idiot in the back seat so, there's one positive    )

[The_Tau]

15 hours ago, LePaul said:

I'm hoping for improvements since I can't seem to get Jester to lock up enemy targets close to me (25 miles) but he certainly likes calling out bogeys 80+ miles out.  I can't seem to figure out how to make him prioritize anything close by.  I have to jump into the F10 view a lot to see what's really being locked on...because he won't identify the close ones!  

Also, is the Tomcat ECM notoriously weak or am I doing something wrong?  I'm flying Cold War servers and I get the Tomcat is a big radar target, but evasive moves, chaff/flare and ECM don't seem to work most of the time.  (Well, it kills to idiot in the back seat so, there's one positive    )

 

If you use command "Jester lock target ahead" then Jester priorities tracks closest to 0 ATA "on the nose", not range. To lock tracks based on range you have to use Jester command "lock specific track". Blue tracks in list are datalink tracks. 

F14 ECM is not weaker than other 4 gen aircraft in DCS. ECM in DCS works all the same and provides noise jamming preventing return of range. In most radars in DCS burn through range is 29nm so any range shorter than that ECM doesnt give any benefit, but in contrary it can activate Home on Jam in especially Fox1 missiles, changing them into silent Fox3 with no warning on rwr.