contact support I want my money back for this plane

[vfas25]

I requested the refund just in case the project dies and I don't loose my money. If DCS and RAZBAM fix their legal issues and the projects get's back on it's feet I may purchase it again since I love the F15E.

[felixx75]

22 hours ago, vfas25 said:

I requested the refund just in case the project dies and I don't loose my money. If DCS and RAZBAM fix their legal issues and the projects get's back on it's feet I may purchase it again since I love the F15E.

That's your decision, of course, but it's not really comprehensible unless you want a different module for that money now. After all, why apply for a refund now and not when it is clear what the future holds?

[Hatman335]

29 minutes ago, felixx75 said:

After all, why apply for a refund now and not when it is clear what the future holds?

We don't know if there's ever going to be a point where it's clear what the future holds. It's entirely possible that we'll be stuck with the current state of the module for years, since international legal proceedings can easily take that much time. Why wait and risk getting stuck with a highly unfinished module if they are currently offering at least store credit refunds (as far as I know that's still the case)? What if they change their minds and they stop offering even that much? Unless you're one of the lucky few who picked it up during the pricing error, there really is no loss here. You get a refund, buy a different module and then if it ever seems like someone is going to actually finish the module, you can just buy it again.

 

 

[felixx75]

1 hour ago, Hatman335 said:

We don't know if there's ever going to be a point where it's clear what the future holds. It's entirely possible that we'll be stuck with the current state of the module for years, since international legal proceedings can easily take that much time. Why wait and risk getting stuck with a highly unfinished module if they are currently offering at least store credit refunds (as far as I know that's still the case)? What if they change their minds and they stop offering even that much? Unless you're one of the lucky few who picked it up during the pricing error, there really is no loss here. You get a refund, buy a different module and then if it ever seems like someone is going to actually finish the module, you can just buy it again.

 

 

I fly the F-15E almost every time I start DCS and have a lot of fun with it even though it is far from finished. So there is absolutely no reason for me to part with it. If at some point it becomes clear that the module will not be developed further, I can always apply for a refund. Even if ED decides that there will be no refund at some point (which I don't think will happen), we will certainly find out in good time.

So why return it now, even though there is no need?

But everyone has to decide that for themselves. I wouldn't want to buy the module back later for a higher sum.

[vfas25]

14 minutes ago, felixx75 said:

I fly the F-15E almost every time I start DCS and have a lot of fun with it even though it is far from finished. So there is absolutely no reason for me to part with it. If at some point it becomes clear that the module will not be developed further, I can always apply for a refund. Even if ED decides that there will be no refund at some point (which I don't think will happen), we will certainly find out in good time.

So why return it now, even though there is no need?

But everyone has to decide that for themselves. I wouldn't want to buy the module back later for a higher sum.

Yes you're right. But I really though the project would die sooner than later and refunds wouldn't be an option at some point. DCS that I know never mentioned a timeframe for applying for a refund. So I concluded was now or never. 

[Waffle 1-1]

1 hour ago, vfas25 said:

So I concluded was now or never. 

I had the same reflex. I was out of the game for quite a long time, came back and fixated on the F15E to then hear the next week of these issues. When I heard of the refund option, I went for it. Now or never, right.

And then I regretted it and got the Eagle back. I’ll live with the potential non-refund should that time ever come, but while I can I want to fly what is possibly the finest module in the game.

[draconus]

50 minutes ago, Waffle 1-1 said:

got the Eagle back

This is the way

[falcon_120]

Im amazed how well Razbam did on the eagle at release. If I’m not wrong the SE only had 2 rounds of bug fixes before everything blew up, still is totally flyable and able to deploy almost every weapon the SE actually uses. One of my favorite modules in DCS.


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[Gorn_GER]

On 6/10/2024 at 10:43 PM, Sandman11 said:

Patience. This will all be taken care of in time.

aged like Milk. Patience needs to be fed with updates and results but I am still waiting to not regret keeping the module when it was possible to refund it earlyer.

Edited October 25 by Gorn_GER

[draconus]

10 minutes ago, Gorn_GER said:

I am still waiting to not regret keeping the module when it was possible to refund it earlyer.

Waiting will not add value to the product with time. Flying it will. And refunds are still possible - anything changed?

[Beirut]

46 minutes ago, draconus said:

Waiting will not add value to the product with time. Flying it will. 

 

That's some pithy wisdom right there. 

[Gorn_GER]

On 10/25/2024 at 1:37 PM, draconus said:

Waiting will not add value to the product with time. Flying it will. And refunds are still possible - anything changed?

Did you read that in a fortune cookie? Please go to your Car-Dealer, buy a vehicle without an engine and tow it around a little. You know, not putting an engine in the vehicle will give it value, riding it does. If you now start to explain that the F-15E is somehow playable and good as it is, you just tell me that there is no serious way to talk to you.

 

I do not know what state of art the refund options are right now but I was told that there are Topics we can not talk about in this forum. And telling people what rights they have in what countries gets stressfull from time to time.

[zildac]

Did you read that in a fortune cookie? Please go to your Car-Dealer, buy a vehicle without an engine and tow it around a little. You know, not putting an engine in the vehicle will give it value, riding it does. If you now start to explain that the F-15E is somehow playable and good as it is, you just tell me that there is no serious way to talk to you.
 
I do not know what state of art the refund options are right now but I was told that there are Topics we can not talk about in this forum. And telling people what rights they have in what countries gets stressfull from time to time.

You can refund it, you'll likely get miles.

[MAXsenna]

6 hours ago, zildac said:

You can refund it, you'll likely get miles.

If you bought in the ED store, you get store credits, not Miles.

[zildac]

If you bought in the ED store, you get store credits, not Miles.

Apologies. Yes you're right, I checked and I did get store credits

[Oban]

8 hours ago, Gorn_GER said:

Did you read that in a fortune cookie? Please go to your Car-Dealer, buy a vehicle without an engine and tow it around a little. You know, not putting an engine in the vehicle will give it value, riding it does. If you now start to explain that the F-15E is somehow playable and good as it is, you just tell me that there is no serious way to talk to you.

 

I do not know what state of art the refund options are right now but I was told that there are Topics we can not talk about in this forum. And telling people what rights they have in what countries gets stressfull from time to time.

Pretty poor anology, the F15E has the engine, it has the wheels, all it's lacking is the ehnacement addons.

It's excatly as described upon release... the exact same as if you went to a car dealer and bought a car.

IF the car dealer stated that over a period of time, you'd get a spoiler, low profile tires, fine tuned engine, and have the car wrapped, but the car dealer has temporary stopped providing any sort of service, then youd be more accurate.

[Gorn_GER]

Everything as I said. Interesting to see, where it comes from.

[Oban]

On 10/26/2024 at 2:29 PM, Gorn_GER said:

If you now start to explain that the F-15E is somehow playable and good as it is, you just tell me that there is no serious way to talk to you.

 

How many real F15E's have you flown to be able to make a comparison that the module in its current form isn't still very good fun to fly?

it still does EVERYTHING that it does from the day it was released, so whats not to enjoy in its current state?

[gunterlund]

This module is 60% done. Its not about just flying it. Its about flying as it actually supposed to function...unless you dont consider it a "Study" module... No JTIDS, no JHMCS, missing options, desync multicrew. Sorry... it needs to be completed. 

Edited November 3 by gunterlund

[Gorn_GER]

On 11/3/2024 at 10:55 PM, gunterlund said:

This module is 60% done. Its not about just flying it. Its about flying as it actually supposed to function...unless you dont consider it a "Study" module... No JTIDS, no JHMCS, missing options, desync multicrew. Sorry... it needs to be completed. 

This.

 

I would like to use it more and play it togehter with my buddys but I cannot recommand them to buy it. Therefor i would fly it alone and with knowing how incomplete it is. At the weekend i started it since last time about a year ago. After start, on online server, I immediately turned back to airfield and switched to AV8B because it is more fun to play a module that is less raw. Even the F-15C is more fun because it does everything its supposed to do while I just spend some 15$ for Flaming Cliffs or so.