fixed TGP Laser Arm >> Crash

[TxSpur]

I'm experiencing the same issue, with more repeated crashes the last two days than the last two years combined. Anytime I do anything TGP/LTD related, in the F/A-18, I get a crash. For testing purposes, I dropped an LGB last night but didn't turn on the designator. The GBU-12 dropped fine but of course missed. As soon as I turned on LTD, I immediately had a crash to desktop. I've also had crashes where I get the CTD as soon as I pickle the LGB. All the crashes were on multiplayer servers as well. 

In an effort to troubleshoot, I've done the following:

-I've removed all mods minus SRS
-I've deleted the contents of the FXO folder
-I've deleted the contents of the metashader2 folder
-I've ran a repair in Steam
-This is a stock system, no overclocking of any sort. 

I really dont know much about the dump file but I see a reference to the FA18C.dll. Not sure if that means anything or not. I've included my log. 
 

dcs.log-20240713-041010.zip

[Archer.xd]

Its reported internally too, but I guess more logs/steps to reproduce wont hurt Thanks all.
Though its super hit or miss I think, cant reliably reproduce.

[Pkdos]

hace 12 horas, Archer.xd dijo:

También se informa internamente, pero supongo que más registros/pasos para reproducir no harán daño a todos.
Aunque creo que es súper impredecible, no se puede reproducir de manera confiable.

Please don't make us look like fools, the error is very clear, the moment you are on a multiplayer server and activate the laser in the TGP, it automatically performs a CTD. Say what you want, that they need time, that they are studying it, whatever you want, but the error is immediate and I sincerely believe that no type of registration is necessary to slow down the solution.

[Esac_mirmidon]

The error is not inmediate.

Maybe for you. I've tested It in several MP servers and still not a single CTD. So if some of us are seeing the issue randomly, please dont doubt about others reports.

Provide logs , you will be more useful, if you can repeat the CTD every time.

[Saruman]

Yes, it's pretty irritating that bug threads are full of people who has nothing to say but putting in doubt the existance of a bug.
I'd like ED to invite people who has nothing to say to abstain from commenting bug threads.
It does not help bug reporters nor ED.
Back in thread, in my case crash does happen only some times and I cannot find a common behaviour.
I will provide log on next occurrance, but I already sent crash report by using DCS itself when I had the issue, so I guess ED already has it.

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[StandingCow]

I already posted my crash files, but I didn't mention that this happened to my entire group of 3.  For 2 of them (one who was carrying JDAMs) crashed when arming the laser, I didn't crash when arming the laser but when dropping my GBU12.

[rob10]

3 hours ago, Pkdos said:

Please don't make us look like fools, the error is very clear, the moment you are on a multiplayer server and activate the laser in the TGP, it automatically performs a CTD. Say what you want, that they need time, that they are studying it, whatever you want, but the error is immediate and I sincerely believe that no type of registration is necessary to slow down the solution.

You really might want to chill a bit.  I dropped 5 LGB's after the update with no issues before I ran into this.  If you can see it every time you'd be a great candidate to post logs/tracks showing it so they can track down the problem because not everyone is having the issue consistently (which means it hard to reproduce).  Clearly there is a bug and it's been reported internally according to one of the testers, but it's not as clear cut as you seem to think it is.

[Saruman]

Let us not forget that, when DCS crashes, you are asked whether you want to report the error and the system creates and sends ED a crash dump.

That's the best way to make ED collect all the information about the issue, because the dump does not contain only the logfile (which is often not sufficient).

[Archer.xd]

3 hours ago, Pkdos said:

Please don't make us look like fools, the error is very clear, the moment you are on a multiplayer server and activate the laser in the TGP, it automatically performs a CTD. Say what you want, that they need time, that they are studying it, whatever you want, but the error is immediate and I sincerely believe that no type of registration is necessary to slow down the solution.

Not my or anyone's intention, and sorry if you got it that way. Its being investigated, and I wouldnt have said such thing if I didnt try it myself over 50 times and couldnt replicate even once.
There is an issue, its causing crashed, and will be fixed. Nobody would ever try to slow down the solution, because simply that wouldnt do anyone any good.
I never said or doubted the bugs existance, its just hard to get an exact list of steps to reproduce it.
Anyway not the place for this type of discussion.

[Kurnass1977]

Happened for the second time in two days, when arm the laser the game crash, I'm in SP playing Operation Mountain Breeze.

Until yesterday aternoon all run normally. Sent the crash report and here my log if help

dcs.log

[Kurnass1977]

1 ora fa, Kurnass1977 ha scritto:

Happened for the second time in two days, when arm the laser the game crash, I'm in SP playing Operation Mountain Breeze.

Until yesterday aternoon all run normally. Sent the crash report and here my log if help

dcs.log 215.55 kB · 0 download

Just try again switchin from the ATFLIR to LITENING and all work normally; hope the issue is not related to Tpod models, as I preferr use the ATFLIR when play as Navy Hornet, as per real life

[Alphapex1]

@Archer.xd  

That happened to me  ， Please check my log

On Multiplayer servers in Afghanistan,  When I press the second  trigger fire the laser  ，Game crash

dcs.log-20240716-120441.zip

Edited July 16, 2024 by Alphapex1

[BIGNEWY]

folks we are investigating the crash but it is not something that showed during our tests. So please be patient while we work out what is going on. 

thank you 

[Esvs Beyond]

same here,  on AH-64D singleplayer. Game crashes while AI CPG/George tries to lase hostile ZU-23 

Edited July 21, 2024 by Esvs Beyond

[Kurnass1977]

Until today look like tgp laser arm/crash issue was related to the ATFlir, but just crashed also with the Litening, very frustrating after an hour to arrive in the target area- Not playble with laser munition

Edited July 19, 2024 by Kurnass1977

[450Devil]

Just had DCS CTD on using the laser in MP (Kola map). Flying the F-18. Litening pod and 500lb laser guided bombs. Track and crash files attached. Interestingly, the crash occur as TTI for bomb reached zero. It did not crash when the laser automatically activated during the bombing sequence.

Have not had this issue when flying in SP earlier today.

dcs.log-20240719-052633.zip DYNS--DCSNZA TTi (Winter Kola Peninsula - West) v2.4.9b.4c --20240719-145450.trk

[450Devil]

Just checked in MP on Caucasus map and game CTD when I armed the laser (before even commencing the bomb run). Files attached. 

-- DYNS-DCSNZA TTI - Autum-Caucasus v2.4.1b.4a ---20240719-154154.trk dcs.log-20240719-055508.zip

[Ki-Natas]

dcs.log-20240717-201538.zipdcs.log-20240717-200052.zipdcs.log-20240717-192503.zip

Here are some crashlogs.
I crashed while switching L-ARM switch or at the end of the laser-activating countdown.
All happened with the F-18 targeting pod inside a Multiplayer game.

[Pawsie]

On 7/11/2024 at 10:44 PM, ACEL said:

Evening!

In multi player (Afghanistan) once TGP (both ATFLIR and Litening) active, Laser > ARM and DCS crashes.

Anyone else with the same issue?

Yeah, Kola and Caucasus maps; as soon as I arm laser in the Hornet, ctd. MP mission, but on SP.

Added log from the crash I had just now

dcs.log-20240719-094057.zip

[ThaVapor]

I'm having the same issue. I just had 5 crashes in a row, this morning, and each session crashed to the desktop. The crashed happened exactly at the moment I armed the LTD/R in the F/A-18 Hornet. 

I was on a multiplayer server. The only mods I have are as follows:

Aircraft Folder

• Civil Aircraft Mod
• UH-60L
• VNAO T-45

Services Folder

• SRS Radio

Tech Folder

• 476 Range Targets
• IFLOLS Yellow
• Tacview
• VARS Pylons

I was flying the F/A-18 Hornet, I took laser-guided Mavericks. I changed my arm code on the Mavs to 1357. I changed the code on the ATFLIR pod to 1357. I went Air-to-Ground mode, locked a target with the ATFLIR, and once I switched to arm the LTD/R, the game crashed to the desktop. 

~Blue

dcs.log-20240720-121224.zip

Edited July 20, 2024 by ThaVapor

[Alpiinoo]

There will be any hotfix for this bug?

[rob10]

3 hours ago, Alpiinoo said:

There will be any hotfix for this bug?

In a different thread Flappie has indicated they have a fix that should be in the next patch.  Hopefully we won't have to wait too long for it, but ED has indicated they are trying to get a bunch of the big bugs fixed before they release it.

[Tomcat388th]

Our squad encountered this problem last thrusday on our mission night. Had a flight of 4 crash when they armed their laser  .Poof they were gone. This was on the Syria map

[thetford569]

I just had this and had no idea why it crashed until I came in here.  It was a single player mission on the Nevada map.  The game crashed when I armed the Laser switch.

 

dcs.log

[andyn]

Crashed when arming LTD/R on a centerline LITENING pod in a multiplayer mission with FLIR format up on the right DDI.

LTD/R ARM is bound to the first physical trigger detent (yes, I'm that lazy) and had been toggled god knows how many times already before the crash as I had to fight my way into the target area.

dcs.log-20240720-214635.zip