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nachomaga

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For countermeassures you need flare chaff key bindings, Master Arm On, Bypass switch to Bypass (right of Master Arm switch).

AFIK, there is no doorgunner menu, you change the station and control the gunner yourself, if you have M60 installed by rearm menu.

nachomaga

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It seems when you do cold and dark startup, Bypass switch is needed to release flare and chaff, but a ramp or free flight quickstart mission, is no needed. Perhaps is in relation with RWR?

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Noodleholz

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vor 28 Minuten schrieb nachomaga:

For countermeassures you need flare chaff key bindings, Master Arm On, Bypass switch to Bypass (right of Master Arm switch).

AFIK, there is no doorgunner menu, you change the station and control the gunner yourself, if you have M60 installed by rearm menu.

How are the keybindings for chaff and flares are called? 
 

Diesel_Thunder

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The bypass switch can stay in the normal position, and the chaff/flares will dispense when you press the dispense switch up (flares) or down (chaff) on the cyclic. Have to be airborne with the system armed, and make sure it's turned on via the CDU panel, in the POWER menu.

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20 hours ago, nachomaga said:

It seems when you do cold and dark startup, Bypass switch is needed to release flare and chaff, but a ramp or free flight quickstart mission, is no needed. Perhaps is in relation with RWR?

 

Ramp start is cold start.

Bypass is needed to disable automatic dispense. If it's not on bypass, it will dispense automatically when your CMWS is detecting a launch.
Manual dispense should be possible regardless the switch.

nachomaga

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2 hours ago, Rongor said:

Ramp start is cold start.

Bypass is needed to disable automatic dispense. If it's not on bypass, it will dispense automatically when your CMWS is detecting a launch.
Manual dispense should be possible regardless the switch.

Sorry, I meant “Runway” start. 

hannibal

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On 8/12/2024 at 5:31 AM, Noodleholz said:

Hey guys!

How to open the doorgunner menu?

How to launch countermeasures? 

Doorgunners:

when you are in the CH47, press keyboard key 1 - 6 for desired seat in cockpit... keyboard "3" for left gunner i think.

ALSO: go to special options for CH47 and set desired doorgun control, i.e. with joystick or mouse, or leave it to track with your head in VR...

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sgt_lobo

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What am I missing?  I can go to the door gunner positions, but the windows are closed and there is no gun or gunner.  I've looked for all settings (that I can see), including looking to see if there is a loading setting on the (rearm screen).  I've gone to maps and done everything I can think of and I get no door gunners!  I can go to the position, but I just see the doors.  What trick am I missing or is it April 1st?  Thanks.

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1 hour ago, sgt_lobo said:

What am I missing?  I can go to the door gunner positions, but the windows are closed and there is no gun or gunner.  I've looked for all settings (that I can see), including looking to see if there is a loading setting on the (rearm screen).  I've gone to maps and done everything I can think of and I get no door gunners!  I can go to the position, but I just see the doors.  What trick am I missing or is it April 1st?  Thanks.

You do have to "arm" the helicopter with the door gunners, either at a re-arming screen in game (must be a friendly airfield or FARP), or via the loadout screen in the mission editor.

The AI for the gunners, and the crew status screen are not yet available. 

Once armed with the gunners, you can assume the position and fire the guns manually.

 

To arm, first right click on the left or right box to open the menu

 

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sgt_lobo

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Thank you!  In all my clicking, I didn't discover this.  I did left click on those boxes, but clearly failed to right click.  Unfortunately, it some of these little details that aren't clear that can make this system a little frustrating.  I appreciate the assistance and I now have Door Gunners on the job! (well, at least that I can jump into).

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Devil 505

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On 8/14/2024 at 7:38 AM, hannibal said:

ALSO: go to special options for CH47 and set desired doorgun control, i.e. with joystick or mouse, or leave it to track with your head in VR

Good stuff!

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On 8/14/2024 at 7:38 AM, hannibal said:

ALSO: go to special options for CH47 and set desired doorgun control, i.e. with joystick or mouse, or leave it to track with your head in VR...

I just tried this and unfortunately, no dice with the mouse.  I see the axis bound, but in the special options I only see two options under CH47, head control or controller.  I did not see any options for a mouse.  Tried the controller option and cannot get the mouse to move the guns.  Any advice would be appreciated.  This is in VR 

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1 hour ago, Devil 505 said:

I just tried this and unfortunately, no dice with the mouse.  I see the axis bound, but in the special options I only see two options under CH47, head control or controller.  I did not see any options for a mouse.  Tried the controller option and cannot get the mouse to move the guns.  Any advice would be appreciated.  This is in VR 

your right, i dont see mouse control option..  

@Flappie can the devs add mouse controlled doorguns axis binds? joystick control is perfect, but mouse control is not there

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Devil 505

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5 hours ago, hannibal said:

 can the devs add mouse controlled doorguns axis binds? joystick control is perfect, but mouse control is not there

I second this motion for this! Much easier with the mouse like in the Huey instead of the Joystick or head movement.

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ChrisUK27

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On 8/17/2024 at 5:53 AM, Devil 505 said:

I second this motion for this! Much easier with the mouse like in the Huey instead of the Joystick or head movement.

I can operate the M60's with the mouse. I've not changed any key bindings or anything, it was there by default and works well. Next step is for the door gunners to operate autonomously like the Huey, cant be that hard to copy the Huey gunners. What is unrealistic is only one 200 round magazine, come on they can carry loads! Give us a reload please ED.

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Devil 505

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17 hours ago, ChrisUK27 said:

I can operate the M60's with the mouse. I've not changed any key bindings or anything

To be honest, I might have forgot to mention I am flying in VR and it is not working in VR.  With some of the bugs I have seen lately, I am going out on a limb and saying it is something ED needs to correct.  A lot of us are having the same issue with the mouse cursor in the Air Boss station on the carrier.  It works for everyone in flat screen mode, but VR users are not able to click on anything with the mouse.  

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