Dudikoff Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 Mine died last week, it was the original version (not the refresh) and it worked for three years but I regreted buying it much earlier because the coating of the keys began to vanish after a few month, making them unrecognizable and ugly. Two weeks ago it started to go nuts and specific keys (like the space bar) stopped working sporadically. Not at all the kind of quality I expected when I bought it. There's some similar problem with the G9 mouses where the rubberized grip starts peeling off after some time (about half a year). But the replacement grips are $5 so there is an easy solution (or maybe try with that Rokkat Kone mouse, though it'd be another expensive venture). Logitech Illuminated looks and works great, though (the only problem is that I can't get it to run in the BIOS setup, I guess because of some USB power issues). I just hope this G940 will be a high quality product justifying the price; when I was buying a joystick for a friend some years ago, I read about a lot of issues with some of their previous models which stopped working after a few months so I went with the Saitek Cyborg Evo which is pretty decent quality-wise. I have high hopes for this new product because of the FF, the trims and the dual throttle (being of the F-15 design doesn't hurt, either). I expect the competition will be forced to start working on some similar FF products. With the next DCS modules and some other upcoming sims, future looks bright at the moment :) i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
RobGordon Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 FINALLY a HOTAS with FFB. The next step should be pedals with FFB. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Schwinn Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 i signed up on their webpage to be notified when it becomes available. I am gonna pick up two sets for a front seat / back seat setup.
rapid Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 I am very temtped to buy a set ans i'll sell my Saitek Hotas and pedals still new really. Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
joey45 Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 it is very tempting... might start saving. Gonna see what Saitek pull out of their hat first though. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Mugenjin Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 Looks interesting, but we will have to see about durability or teething problems. I mean it's their very first hotas (am i wrong?), and I somehow doubt the very first pieces will achieve a long life which is kinda necessary for 300$, isn't it?
-fox- Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 Yeah, I'd definately wait for more customer reports and reviews.
rapid Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 No doubt, but i'll wait for feed back here first of coarse.:smartass: Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
mse Posted June 6, 2009 Posted June 6, 2009 I like to remind Paccus HAWK project. They going to a demo at the Gamescom in Köln Germany, Augustus 2009. Please look at the link. http://www.hardwareguru.com/article/paccus-fluid-head-force-feedback-hawk-joystick-interview/
LukeFF Posted June 7, 2009 Posted June 7, 2009 I expect the competition will be forced to start working on some similar FF products. With the next DCS modules and some other upcoming sims, future looks bright at the moment :) I hope so as well, especially in regards to CH. Their controllers are very good, no doubt about it, but most of their current designs are getting a bit "old" now and could stand for an update (especially WRT their Pro Throttle). Will be interesting indeed to see how the competition responds to the G940.
therion_prime Posted June 7, 2009 Posted June 7, 2009 Looks interesting, but we will have to see about durability or teething problems. I mean it's their very first hotas (am i wrong?), and I somehow doubt the very first pieces will achieve a long life which is kinda necessary for 300$, isn't it? The man who designed the X52 also designed the G940 so it's not really their first HOTAS. My DCS movies:
rapid Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 The man who designed the X52 also designed the G940 so it's not really their first HOTAS. Hmmm I think some clarification is needed here:music_whistling: Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
Mugenjin Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 The man who designed the X52 also designed the G940 so it's not really their first HOTAS. Actually it is, or was there any other HOTAS from Logitech? Same designer, fine, but we'll have to see how Logitech is gonna execute that.
Feuerfalke Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 Nice split throttle. Ugliest thing I have seen in a while. Out Sounds perfect for a plane called "Warthog" ;) MSI X670E Gaming Plus | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D | 64 GB DDR4 | AMD RX 6900 XT | LG 55" @ 4K | Cougar 1000 W | CreativeX G6 | TIR5 | CH HOTAS (with BU0836X-12 Bit) + Crosswind Pedals | Win11 64 HP | StreamDeck XL | 3x TM MFD
therion_prime Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 Hmmm I think some clarification is needed here:music_whistling: http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2736912/777_Studios_Jason.html#Post2736912 My DCS movies:
CyBerkut Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 That thread includes this little jewel: http://www.simhq.com/_commentary/all_090j.html Yes, there actually are controls on the front side of the throttle (that the promo pics have not been showing).. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] There's no place like 127.0.0.1
rapid Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 Maybe same chap who used to work for Saitek but its still a new concept for logitech Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
rapid Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 Found another demo on the g940 taken E3 Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
deltatango Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 I like it, it looks kinda like the F-15C, F/A-18, A-10 throttle which I like and I dreamed of Suncomm F-15 HOTAS back in the day. Hey! I have a suncom HOTAS collecting dust in my garage. Sitting next to it is a Saitek X45. I am thinking of transplanting the guts from the X45 into the Suncom (which doesn't work and has a Gameport connection). hmmm... Cheers, DT Junior Member for over 6 years. Difference between Ordinance and Ordnance. My X-52 Pro Profile. My Nevada training mission
deltatango Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 I expect the competition will be forced to start working on some similar FF products. Saitek has a poll going over at their forums on who would be interested in FF HOTAS setups. http://www.saitekforum.com/showthread.php?t=11746 That's from 2007. Guess they missed the boat.... Cheers, DT Junior Member for over 6 years. Difference between Ordinance and Ordnance. My X-52 Pro Profile. My Nevada training mission
Schwinn Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 You know. If any of these joystick companies were "on the ball" they would make a base unit for a flight stick with interchangeable grips (handles).I would happily spend a lot of moola to get a new grip for different jets/helos.
rapid Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 What if say the Joystick was to break would you then have to re-buy the kit and cabudal all over again? that is something I would like to know.:helpsmilie: Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
CyBerkut Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 You know. If any of these joystick companies were "on the ball" they would make a base unit for a flight stick with interchangeable grips (handles).I would happily spend a lot of moola to get a new grip for different jets/helos. I seem to recall that was originally the plan for the Thrustmaster Cougar HOTAS. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] There's no place like 127.0.0.1
CyBerkut Posted June 10, 2009 Posted June 10, 2009 Hey! I have a suncom HOTAS collecting dust in my garage. Sitting next to it is a Saitek X45. I am thinking of transplanting the guts from the X45 into the Suncom (which doesn't work and has a Gameport connection). hmmm... If you go that route, let us know how it turns out. It seems like there would be some tradeoffs there. Leo Bodnar's boards look like a great possibility, (at a price, of course). http://www.leobodnar.com/ I still have a Suncom Hotas as well, and if I was going to attempt to get it going as a USB controller, one of Leo's boards would probably be the way I'd go at it. My interest on that may increase considerably when the next DCS module is due out. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] There's no place like 127.0.0.1
BTTW-DratsaB Posted June 11, 2009 Posted June 11, 2009 What if say the Joystick was to break would you then have to re-buy the kit and cabudal all over again? that is something I would like to know.:helpsmilie: Well, I had a problem with my Logitech G25 steering wheel and they just sent me out a new one after I emailed them photos of the wheel and a copy of the invoice in PDF to verify purchase. Pretty damn good support. I think this G940 will be very good. If the Logitech G25 wheel is anything to go by, the build quality will be second to none. Having owned an X52 I can say that I was particularly unimpressed by how tacky it felt, I was expecting it to be more robust. And since day one I have had that horrible "grating" when making precise moves, due to the way the crappy spring and plate mechanism works. I could never understand why HOTAS makers would use a spring and plate like that, it feels horrible. Even without using the forcefeedback effects, the powered Return-to-Centre is far superior on a FFB stick. Ill start saving for this :joystick: Specs: GA-Z87X-UD3H, i7-4770k, 16GB, RTX2060, SB AE-5, 750watt Corsair PSU, X52, Track IR4, Win10x64. Sim Settings: Textures: ? | Scenes: ? |Water: ? | Visibility Range: ? | Heat Blur: ? | Shadows: ? | Res: 1680x1050 | Aspect: 16:10 | Monitors: 1 Screen | MSAA: ? | Tree Visibility: ? | Vsync: On | Mirrors: ? | Civ Traffic: High | Res Of Cockpit Disp: 512 | Clutter: ? | Fullscreen: On
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