Stuttering issue

[PLUTON]

forgive my very bad English because I noticed some vulgar words that I didn't mean to but here I am using Google Translate
A thousand apologies and have a good flight

[jackd]

i've got avast premium, and on my laptop bitdefender paid. Both take over controlling defender ...

[MAXsenna]

28 minutes ago, jackd said:

i've got avast premium, and on my laptop bitdefender paid. Both take over controlling defender ...

Yes, when you install other Anti-Virus solutions, they will disable Defender. When you uninstall them, Defender will be enabled again. 

[jackd]

So i got the whole caboose running on a fresh Windows 11 LTSC ....... an occasional brief stutter, but usually DCS runs smoothly, no core trick no mo.

[jackd]

So i finally got a working DCS now with no e-cores running WITHOUT project lasso etc, IMO the easiest way

How? Create a desktop shortcut for DCS. then paste this line in to the top target boc:

C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /c start "DCS" /affinity FF "F:\- DCS World Openbeta\bin\DCS.exe"

(F:\- DCS World Openbeta\bin\DCS.exe is my game's location)

ADDED: Meant for Intel i-processors only? the FF is for an 8 main core processor like my 14900K, disables  all the E-cores. F would be for a 4 maincore processor.

More  info: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/how-to-create-shortcut-to-start-program-with-specific-affinity-settings-all-32-cores.28054/

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Edited March 25 by jackd

[Mandoble]

On 3/25/2025 at 9:50 AM, jackd said:

So i finally got a working DCS now with no e-cores running WITHOUT project lasso etc, IMO the easiest way

How? Create a desktop shortcut for DCS. then paste this line in to the top target boc:

C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /c start "DCS" /affinity FF "F:\- DCS World Openbeta\bin\DCS.exe"

(F:\- DCS World Openbeta\bin\DCS.exe is my game's location)

ADDED: Meant for Intel i-processors only? the FF is for an 8 main core processor like my 14900K, disables  all the E-cores. F would be for a 4 maincore processor.

More  info: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/how-to-create-shortcut-to-start-program-with-specific-affinity-settings-all-32-cores.28054/

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And is there any way to have something similar for the Steam edition?  i7-14700KF and getting frequent random stutters too.

Today, in one session with obvious stuttering, I played with core affinity, disabled CPU 0 from taskmanager and then re-enabled it, and stutters were gone.

[jackd]

Sorry, i wouldn't know, but maybe if you can make and edit a shortcut for a DCS.exe in your 5eamapps/common folder ?

[Duracell65]

In case anyone is interested I today found the cause of micro stutters occurring when running campaigns. Turns out that the issue was caused by Tacview, after disabling Tacview within the DCS Special settings the micro stutter has gone away completely and I now have a stable FPS!!  

I must give the credit to the Discord DCS Eagle Dynamics dcs-log-analyzer forum, after uploading my DCS log file to it it made a number of recommendations to improve my performance; however, the only recommendation that had a noticeable effect was disabling Tacview.

[Mr_sukebe]

Another idea to try is lowering the polling rate on your mouse, as suggested recently by Spud.

The default polling rate for my Logitech 502 was 1000 (per second).  I dropped it to 125 and it did eliminate micro-stutters.

Edited March 29 by Mr_sukebe
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[Swiso]

On 3/29/2025 at 1:55 PM, Duracell65 said:

In case anyone is interested I today found the cause of micro stutters occurring when running campaigns. Turns out that the issue was caused by Tacview, after disabling Tacview within the DCS Special settings the micro stutter has gone away completely and I now have a stable FPS!!  

I must give the credit to the Discord DCS Eagle Dynamics dcs-log-analyzer forum, after uploading my DCS log file to it it made a number of recommendations to improve my performance; however, the only recommendation that had a noticeable effect was disabling Tacview.

THANKS !!! That's was it !!

[Lange_666]

This has been a "possible" solution for stuttering issues since TacView came into play.
However, I have it enabled and never had micro stuttering with it.
Question then still remains: why some have micro stuttering with it enabled and why some have no micro stuttering at all with TacView enabled?
Maybe because I have set TacView as exclusion in the Anti-Virus?

Edited April 4 by Lange_666

[Swiso]

4 hours ago, Lange_666 said:

This has been a "possible" solution for stuttering issues since TacView came into play.
However, I have it enabled and never had micro stuttering with it.
Question then still remains: why some have micro stuttering with it enabled and why some have no micro stuttering at all with TacView enabled?
Maybe because I have set TacView as exclusion in the Anti-Virus?

For my part, the stuttering started a month and a half ago maximum... before I never had to add Tacview to the excluded process of my AV software.

[dutchili]

The latest NVidia drivers seemed to have an impact, but about the time it was released we also had a DCS update.
Before that, it was near perfect.

 

Some threats are not tuned to the capacity of the CPU core they run on, resulting in all of us being "CPU limited", which is actually 'limited by insufficient load balancing'.

[MAXsenna]

On 4/4/2025 at 7:51 AM, Lange_666 said:

However, I have it enabled and never had micro stuttering with it.

Same here. 

On 4/4/2025 at 7:51 AM, Lange_666 said:

Maybe because I have set TacView as exclusion in the Anti-Virus?

The application or where it dumps the files? 

Cheers! 

[Lange_666]

I had set them both directly after the latest full PC install, according to a little list I made what should be excluded.
I added TacView to that list because I did read that "it could" cause stuttering while recording/saving.

I removed it again from the exclusions after posting my comment above just for testing purposes.
I don't have stuttering with TacView when it's not excluded.

[MAXsenna]

41 minutes ago, Lange_666 said:

I had set them both directly after the latest full PC install, according to a little list I made what should be excluded.
I added TacView to that list because I did read that "it could" cause stuttering while recording/saving.

Right, I'm asking because I have excluded the whole Saved Games, and not the TacView application in particular, (though I might have since I bought it on Steam). 

43 minutes ago, Lange_666 said:

I removed it again from the exclusions after posting my comment above just for testing purposes.
I don't have stuttering with TacView when it's not excluded.

That's interesting too. 

[Silver_]

I only experience stuttering and therefore frame drops when I enter missions with a lot of troops attacking on the front lines. If it's a mission with a low load, I don't even realize it exists. This happens to me especially at the beginning of a campaign.

I'll have to try the antivirus exclusions thing you mentioned, but I'm not entirely sure it will fix it.

[Nereid]

On 3/25/2025 at 9:50 AM, jackd said:

ADDED: Meant for Intel i-processors only? the FF is for an 8 main core processor like my 14900K, disables  all the E-cores. F would be for a 4 maincore processor.

This would not only disable the E-cores but logical cores (hyperthreading) too. I would suggest FFFF for the 8 core to set an affinity for the first 16 cores (because your 14900K has 24 logical cores).

PS: And by using only the first 8 cores you may disable some physical cores too. I'm not sure if logical cores are the later 8 or the odd numbered onse.

Edited April 13 by Nereid

[jackd]

well, it works ok with FF LoL.