FZG_Immel Posted December 24, 2024 Posted December 24, 2024 i have tried the F-5E after the patch. I get HUGE stutters after the game in unpaused. I can see high CPU usage at half second interval. something is seriously effed. as soon as I pause the game, my FPS get back smooth as silk, 144 fps capped.- 5 [sIGPIC]https://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic70550_3.gif[/sIGPIC] Asus Z390-H - SSD M.2 EVO 970 - Intel I9 @5.0ghz - 32gb DDR4 4000 - EVGA 3090 - Cougar FSSB + Virpil WRBRD + Hornet Stick - Thrustmaster TPR Pedal + WinWing MIP + Orion + TO and CO pannels - Track IR5
YoYo Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 (edited) DCS 2.9.11.4686 Something actually happened to the performance of F-5E Remastered. FPS dropped by half. Both outside of the module and in the cockpit. Example test with Phantom - external F-4E 220 FPS, F-5E - 120 FPS (and we're talking about 8k ft flight), cockpit the same, F-4E - 210 FPS, F-5E... 110 FPS. Edited December 25, 2024 by YoYo 2 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
YoYo Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 I've just checked in VR. F-5E Remastered has become completely unplayable on RTX 4090. 4 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
YoYo Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 (edited) Strange, after 3 runs DCS (1 2D, 1 VR and 1 VR) is ok with F-5E Remastered. So it seems that the first run (despite clearing shaders) causes some FPS problem. If you see something like that, run DCS again. Edit: Unfortunately, there is a problem. I start DCS and F-5 again and the FPS drop is huge again. Something happens randomly when loading F-5E. I attach the Track when I had a significant drop in FPS, although I don't know if it will help. test4.trk Edited December 25, 2024 by YoYo 1 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
YoYo Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 Here it was ok (test5 - no FPS issue), so you can compare both tracks. I have the impression that the problem occurs randomly, sometimes it is ok, sometimes it is not. I have just started 6 other modules in the same situation. Everything is ok, no this huge FPS drop, so I assume it is the F-5E unit. test5.trk 1 Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
Bucic Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 Thanks for the effort! Do you confirm that subsequent sessions are free of the performance hit? Tracks are always good but I don't think they contain any original session performance metrics. EDIT: Guys, try clearing: Saved Games/fxo Saved games/metashaders2 Windows shader cache ... then running at least two sessions 5 minutes or longer. F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
zaelu Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 (edited) From 40 in VR on other modules I went to 10 in the F-5e "remastered". I didn't had it before last patch so I don't know how it was before. When starting for the first time on Syria map free flight the cockpit was fully loaded but before I hit fly the FPS looked normal in the 40+. When I hit fly... gone. 10-12FPS Same if jet is powered down on ground. FPS is in the bin. Caucasus, Syria Mariana... same. Edited December 25, 2024 by zaelu 4 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
YoYo Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 Here it is in Russian, but the person also writes that he has a big problem with FPS after the last update, also after cleaning shaders: Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
zaelu Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 I cleared the caches (DCS ones, nvidia shader cache) and did few flights on different maps. So far the issue is not showing again. I will test some more to see if it holds. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] I5 4670k, 32GB, GTX 1070, Thrustmaster TFRP, G940 Throttle extremely modded with Bodnar 0836X and Bu0836A, Warthog Joystick with F-18 grip, Oculus Rift S - Almost all is made from gifts from friends, the most expensive parts at least
SnowTiger Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 I hope the issue is quickly and easily resolved. I just got my Pimax Crystal Light yesterday and hope (or hoped) to set it up in DCS today. External FPS issues won't make that task any easier. SnowTiger AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Zen 4 16-Core 4.5 GHz - Socket AM5 - 170W Desktop Processor ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI 6E Socket AM5 (LGA 1718) Ryzen 7000 gaming motherboard Geforce RTX 4090 Gaming Trio X - 24GB GDDR6X + META Quest 3 + Controllers + Warthog Throttle, CH Pro Pedals, VKB Gunfighter MKII MCG Pro G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo Series 64 GB RAM (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 RAM
MoleUK Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 (edited) It's not just the remastered F-5, this track shows the problem consistently in the old F-5 as well. Track replayed with a locked 72fps with lots of overhead before the patch dropped yesterday. Now it will dip below 20, showing a hard sim thread bottleneck. If I edit the track and replace the F5 with any other jet, no problem. Also remains happening when you move to external view. disappearing F5 test 200.trk Edited December 25, 2024 by MoleUK
MoleUK Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 If I owned it I would check the FC4 F-5, incase that doesn't exhibit the same behavior. Might help narrow down the problem if it doesn't.
YoYo Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 10 minutes ago, archer86 said: Same here, f-5 became a fps eater. Remastered v.? Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
archer86 Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, YoYo said: Remastered v.? Yes v2, previous patch it was awesome like as always, but after last update fps is horrible. Edited December 25, 2024 by archer86
PFT_Orph3us Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 After the last patch in DCS, I confirm that the F-5E remaster's FPS dropped half from 72 FPS (locked 72 Hz Quest 3) to 35-50 FPS. As Yoyo wrote, f5 remastered it is now unplayable. Other modules in DCS are fine. 1
twistking Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 with the f-5E (upgrade) i now get 8 fps (where i used to get locked 60 with other modules). on sim pause it goes back to locked 60 (frame limiter). unplayable! My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
Invader_Dlorge Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 Same here, the graphics look horrible, LOD changes (when zooming) go very slow. Everything is stuttering. I'm in the middle of my Black Sea Resolve campaign and I just can't play anymore.
prestupnik Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 Exactly the same situation with the old version, not remastered, after the patch On pause FPS is restored. Reinstalling the module did not help
streakeagle Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 I just came here to see if I was the only one with this problem. Apparently not. I am getting less than half the FPS I get in the F-4E. I am guessing that something got broken when they added new effects and/or fixed the hatches opening/closing. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
RampantCoyote Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 (edited) I came here looking to see if anyone else had the same problem with yesterday's patch and the remastered F-5E. My FPS issues in VR were far more dramatic. I went from smooth 45+ FPS on the ground (in an F-16) to something like 2-3 FPS. On our multiplayer server (which I think is a bit of a CPU hog as it is), I went from probably 24+ FPS to literally a frame every 5-10 seconds. I thought the game had locked up. I did not have this problem before yesterday's patch. However, I did clean my caches before running. Edited December 26, 2024 by RampantCoyote
irisono Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 The same here. Massive performance drops with the F-5 remaster on my DCS setup. Unplayable!
irisono Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 The same here. Massive performance drops with the F-5 remastered on my DCS setup. Has anyone already submitted a ticket to Technical Support?
twistking Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 anyone tried disabling wake turbulence? i can't test myself right now.... 1 My improved* wishlist after a decade with DCS *now with 17% more wishes compared to the original
JasBird Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 Same here. Massive performance drop in VR with the F-5. No luck trying to clear: Saved Games/fxo Saved games/metashaders2 Windows shader cache ( Not sure how to clear this folder?)
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