ebabil Posted January 24 Author Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Blinde said: At first I deleted the input folder, then I tried deleting the whole dcs.openbeta folder from the saved games. Then repair and the problem was still there. Reinstalled everything from the scratch (which apparently was pointless) and started the game without any mods and with just keyboard installed. And the game hangs. AI planes load just fine, but cockpit seems to be the issue. And it's not consisted, sometimes it miraculously loads just fine with my orion 2 hotas. But most of the time it just hangs on "spawn objects". Sometimes waiting up to 15min works, rarely alt+tab to taskmanager works. Tried Logviewer too but it gave me pretty much same results as looking through the dcs.log. This must be an bug related to MP spawn issue since these appear to be same kind. Exact same thing It is not just mp, but also mission editor etc 1 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
ebabil Posted January 24 Author Posted January 24 it is definetly input folder. game works without it 1 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
MAXsenna Posted January 24 Posted January 24 it is definetly input folder. game works without itThen it must be some corruption happening later on. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
ebabil Posted January 24 Author Posted January 24 Yeah Ed needs to find a solution 1 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
MAXsenna Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Yeah Ed needs to find a solution Agree! You could try Quaggles for kicks, just to test if it helps. Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
Blinde Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) It has something to do with loading .dll files. It take takes a long time to load those. This is most likely the same bug as the MP slot selection bug where game hangs. If you set plane as client instead of player on mission editor, it loads the mission just fine, but as soon you load the slot, it hangs. I'm using Win11 with 24H2 update. Edited January 25 by Blinde
MAXsenna Posted January 25 Posted January 25 It has something to do with loading .dll files. It take takes a long time to load those. This is most likely the same bug as the MP slot selection bug where game hangs. If you set plane as client instead of player on mission editor, it loads the mission just fine, but as soon you load the slot, it hangs. I'm using Win11 with 24H2 update. Another user had an issue the other day. All his modules were disabled, like what happens with AV. He had the correct exclusions in place. He removed them, and then re-added them, did a repair, and all was fine. Worth to try? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk
Blinde Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 hour ago, MAXsenna said: Another user had an issue the other day. All his modules were disabled, like what happens with AV. He had the correct exclusions in place. He removed them, and then re-added them, did a repair, and all was fine. Worth to try? Sent from my SM-A536B using Tapatalk I'll give it a shot. I already removed exclusions and added them back. 1
Blinde Posted January 25 Posted January 25 (edited) Tried again with exclusions and repair and it hangs like before. It's about the .dll files, according to dcs.log. edit. Yeah, did some tests and it definitely hangs on loading FA18C.dll for example if I choose the hornet. @Flappie Any change to notify this to ED? Edited January 25 by Blinde 1
Flappie Posted January 25 Posted January 25 At first, I was all alone, so I didn't think about reporting this issue. I'll report it. 2 3 ---
skywalker22 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 My game does not hang completely. Instead I have 3 to 4 minutes of mission loading time when I load it for the 1st time (each new mission). If I load the same mission for 2nd or more times, loading time reduces to 10-15 seconds! Go figure what is holding back the mission to load for the 1st time. I tried lots of things, even with a help of @Special K in the past, but so far nothing seemed to help.
ebabil Posted January 27 Author Posted January 27 yesterday I played without problem then I quitted the game, played some MSFS then run the DCS again. And well, hung at "spawn object". Renamed input folder didn't help either. Then I restarted the PC, run DCS and it worked. Restored old input folder, re-run DCS and it worked again. This is getting insane... 1 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
gulredrel Posted January 27 Posted January 27 (edited) Add me to the club. Also frequently getting the application hanging at "spawn objects" when loading mission from ME since December. Tried repair but nothing helped, also removed only mod (A-4E) that I had installed. Alt + Tab in and out often helps to get going but not every time. Currently loading stopped again at "World Start" edit: Same mission without changing anything started just fine after closing and re-opening DCS. Totally random to me as to when and why this happens. In the log file you can just see the idle time when between waiting, using alt + tab and then it resumes. Nothing special in between. Edited January 27 by gulredrel
gulredrel Posted January 28 Posted January 28 [...] 2025-01-28 08:42:13.350 ERROR ED_SOUND (13640): can't load wave: "effects/weapons/automatic/warrior_distant_2.wav" 2025-01-28 08:42:13.350 ERROR ED_SOUND (13640): can't load wave: "effects/weapons/automatic/warrior_distant_3.wav" [here a pressed alt + tab to go to windows to open the dcs.log and it continued to load the mission] 2025-01-28 08:44:33.678 INFO EDCORE (Main): Loaded F:/DCS_World_OpenBeta/Mods/aircraft/AH-64D/bin/AH64D.dll 2025-01-28 08:44:33.681 ERROR_ONCE DX11BACKEND (1376): texture '/textures//liveries/ah-64d_blk_ii/1st_bat_greek_pegasus_es1008/ah-64d_chassis_roughmet' not found. Asked from '' [...] This was in Syria map loading the mission from ME.
fullcoupe Posted January 28 Posted January 28 Same issue here since ~mid-December. I usually have to kill DCS once or twice and then it will load, however regardless of the attempt, it stays stuck at 'spawn objects' for at least 5 minutes or more. The alt-tab or click-out trick does not work for me at all. FWIW I just reinstalled Windows and DCS from scratch (for another reason) and I still encounter the same problem. Today I went to load a basic flight just an F-16 in Nevada, no mods or anything. And it hung for probably 15 minutes. Attached a log if someone wants to look. dcs.txt 1 i7 9700k @ 4.9 GHz | Asus Z390-A | EVGA 1080Ti SC2 | Oculus Rift + Touch | TM HOTAS Warthog
Blinde Posted January 28 Posted January 28 2 hours ago, fullcoupe said: Same issue here since ~mid-December. I usually have to kill DCS once or twice and then it will load, however regardless of the attempt, it stays stuck at 'spawn objects' for at least 5 minutes or more. The alt-tab or click-out trick does not work for me at all. FWIW I just reinstalled Windows and DCS from scratch (for another reason) and I still encounter the same problem. Today I went to load a basic flight just an F-16 in Nevada, no mods or anything. And it hung for probably 15 minutes. Attached a log if someone wants to look. dcs.txt 70.24 kB · 1 download Do you have Win11 and 24H2 update? My game also started this behavior in december.
fullcoupe Posted January 29 Posted January 29 18 hours ago, Blinde said: Do you have Win11 and 24H2 update? My game also started this behavior in december. Yes I do. 1 i7 9700k @ 4.9 GHz | Asus Z390-A | EVGA 1080Ti SC2 | Oculus Rift + Touch | TM HOTAS Warthog
WaffenCat Posted February 1 Posted February 1 Con В 26.01.2025 в 01:22, Flappie сказал: At first, I was all alone, so I didn't think about reporting this issue. I'll report it. Confirm this problem... 1 YouTube - WaffenCatLive Microsoft Windows 10 Pro x64 | ASrock Fatal1ty K4 gaming x470 | SSD m.2 Samsung 970 EVO | AMD Ryzen 7 2700X (4.3Ghz) | RAM 32G ddr4 ballistix Sport (3200MHz) | Super JetStream GeForce RTX2080 | Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog | TrackIR 5 + TrackClip PRO :pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ebabil Posted February 3 Author Posted February 3 any news? game completely stopped working with input folder. since ED doesn't seem to be caring, we can share our experiences here. 1 FC3 | UH-1 | Mi-8 | A-10C II | F/A-18 | Ka-50 III | F-14 | F-16 | AH-64 | Mi-24 | F-5 | F-15E| F-4| Tornado Persian Gulf | Nevada | Syria | NS-430 | Supercarrier // Wishlist: CH-53 | UH-60 Youtube MS FFB2 - TM Warthog - CH Pro Pedals - Trackir 5
rob10 Posted February 4 Posted February 4 3 hours ago, ebabil said: any news? game completely stopped working with input folder. since ED doesn't seem to be caring, we can share our experiences here. Can't be just Win 11, 24H2. I'm on Win 11 PRO 24H2 on a new setup I just got and not seeing any issues. On 1/28/2025 at 3:20 PM, fullcoupe said: Same issue here since ~mid-December. I usually have to kill DCS once or twice and then it will load, however regardless of the attempt, it stays stuck at 'spawn objects' for at least 5 minutes or more. The alt-tab or click-out trick does not work for me at all. FWIW I just reinstalled Windows and DCS from scratch (for another reason) and I still encounter the same problem. Today I went to load a basic flight just an F-16 in Nevada, no mods or anything. And it hung for probably 15 minutes. Attached a log if someone wants to look. dcs.txt 70.24 kB · 8 downloads In your case you only have 32GB RAM and you've only got 5 GB pagefile. Bumping your pagefile to 32GB max/min should help you out. 3
Flappie Posted February 5 Posted February 5 Gents, can you please try this? If you already have a file named autoexec.cfg in "Saved Games/DCS/Config", edit it and add this line: no_device_hotplug = true And if you don't have such a file, here is it. Does it change anything for you? autoexec.cfg 1 1 ---
skywalker22 Posted February 5 Posted February 5 9 hours ago, Flappie said: Gents, can you please try this? If you already have a file named autoexec.cfg in "Saved Games/DCS/Config", edit it and add this line: no_device_hotplug = true And if you don't have such a file, here is it. Does it change anything for you? autoexec.cfg 24 B · 5 downloads Seems that it indeed works. I ran DCS 4 times (also restared pc twice) and always took me 10-15sec to start the mission. There was maybe only 2-3 seconds of waiting on Spawn Objects. At least it works for me for now. If this is it, what does it mean @Flappie? 1 1
sleighzy Posted February 6 Posted February 6 20 hours ago, Flappie said: Gents, can you please try this? If you already have a file named autoexec.cfg in "Saved Games/DCS/Config", edit it and add this line: no_device_hotplug = true And if you don't have such a file, here is it. Does it change anything for you? autoexec.cfg 24 B · 2 downloads Super interesting. How does this differ from say disabling hotplug devices in the DCS controls settings? 1 AMD 7800x3D, 4080Super, 64Gb DDR5 RAM, 4Tb NVMe M.2, Quest 2
Blinde Posted February 6 Posted February 6 20 hours ago, Flappie said: Gents, can you please try this? If you already have a file named autoexec.cfg in "Saved Games/DCS/Config", edit it and add this line: no_device_hotplug = true And if you don't have such a file, here is it. Does it change anything for you? autoexec.cfg 24 B · 7 downloads This might have resolved my issue. Tried it twice and it didn't stuck at spawn objects. Promising. I'll continue my tests when I have more time. 2
Flappie Posted February 6 Posted February 6 12 hours ago, sleighzy said: How does this differ from say disabling hotplug devices in the DCS controls settings? I don't know. 23 hours ago, skywalker22 said: At least it works for me for now. If this is it, what does it mean @Flappie? Let's wait for a few more days. If everybody here confirm that this workaround works, it will help devs locate the issue. @ebabil Can you please try the aforementioned workaround? ---
Recommended Posts