evanf117 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 if we get a 2B, and i hope we do, alot of people will be disappointed, i personally believe a frankenjet will be the likely outcome, and in such case i believe many people, including my self, will bring up the F-5E and its RATO, AAR, Mav's and such that could be added, and havent afaik, the AIM-120's on the 2B are C7's not (current in game)C5's or D's 2 1
NytHawk Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) 34 minutes ago, evanf117 said: afaik, the AIM-120's on the 2B are C7's not (current in game)C5's or D's All operational F35s are compatible with AIM-120C5s. However as you said, I also believe an F35 module will need to be a frankenblock. Edited January 22 by NytHawk 3
evanf117 Posted January 22 Author Posted January 22 2 hours ago, NytHawk said: All operational F35s are compatible with AIM-120C5s. it was more me saying, "hey, if this is block spersificly you aren't getting 120D's" (in a way i hope it is block spersificly because i would love to see peoples shock, but realistically that isnt a good financial decision 1
Eviscerador Posted January 22 Posted January 22 I suppose they will do something like Razbam was planning to do in the Mudhen, launching bare bones and then upgrading the different weapons and loadouts. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ThePops Posted January 23 Posted January 23 9 hours ago, Eviscerador said: I suppose they will do something like Razbam was planning to do in the Mudhen, launching bare bones and then upgrading the different weapons and loadouts. That's what happens in real life. When the F-16A came, it was merely a Spitfire on steroids. Soon it was modified for BVR, then much better A/G, avionics, radar etc. Modifications and improvement was done all through it's service life, and with variations from nation to nation. They all ended up like some F-16C+ or something. I think this is and will become even more evident with the F-35 due to its all digital nature. 2
Wing Posted January 23 Posted January 23 (edited) More slides here: https://www.v303rdfightergroup.com/index.php?pubs/f-35-weapon-system-overview.325/ Edited January 23 by Wing 3 www.v303rdFighterGroup.com | v303 FG Discord
Wizard_03 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Aim-9x is still confirmed in the FAQ and it can only be carried on a wing station so they are definitely shooting for more then 2B IOC loads DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer:
upyr1 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 On 1/22/2025 at 3:29 AM, evanf117 said: if we get a 2B, and i hope we do, a lot of people will be disappointed, i personally believe a frankenjet will be the likely outcome, and in such case i believe many people, including my self, will bring up the F-5E and its RATO, AAR, Mav's and such that could be added, and havent I wish they had tossed in a second F-5 variant with the more advanced weapons On 1/22/2025 at 3:29 AM, evanf117 said: afaik, the AIM-120's on the 2B are C7's not (current in game)C5's or D's I think I'm not the only one who wants whatever gets us the most toys that would be easy to convert to the C and B. 2
evanf117 Posted January 24 Author Posted January 24 14 hours ago, upyr1 said: I wish they had tossed in a second F-5 variant with the more advanced weapons as far as im aware our F-5E, being an F-5 that was sold to the Swiss and then bought back from them for aggressor's would have had the guns and radar removed, so i dont know why ED is trying this "realism" line when our F-5E still has a radar and functional guns 1
NytHawk Posted January 24 Posted January 24 (edited) 19 hours ago, Wing said: More slides here: https://www.v303rdfightergroup.com/index.php?pubs/f-35-weapon-system-overview.325/ Just as a note, many of these weapons have yet to be integrated onto the F35, or are not officially planned to be integrated onto the real F35. Storm shadow and brimstone are officially no longer being integrated. I can't find any reference of CBU-99/100s on the F-35 other than on old diagrams like this, same with AIM-120Bs and other dumb bombs. Edited January 24 by NytHawk 1
upyr1 Posted January 24 Posted January 24 8 hours ago, evanf117 said: as far as i'm aware our F-5E, being an F-5 that was sold to the Swiss and then bought back from them for aggressor's would have had the guns and radar removed, so i dont know why ED is trying this "realism" line when our F-5E still has a radar and functional guns What were the F-5s in question like when the Swiss bought them in the first place?
evanf117 Posted January 25 Author Posted January 25 (edited) 20 hours ago, upyr1 said: What were the F-5s in question like when the Swiss bought them in the first place? F-5E's i believe, they were upgraded with their own radios and INS, hence the shark fin on the roof, as well as i believe their nose is shaped differently, i have seen at least one person saying that Swiss F-5's could carry and use 4 AIM-9's but i cannot confirm that info apparently ED is looking to bring the coms and INS to the F-5E, in spite of the fact that no one is asking for it, instead we are all asking for 4 Winders, AAR, RATO and Mav's i believe the Swiss F-5 was also RATO capable Edited January 25 by evanf117 2
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Sawyer Posted January 28 Posted January 28 I see most of the interesting weapons have been removed from the FAQ. I do wonder how that wasn't nailed down a week ago, but it is now, apparently. 2
Wizard_03 Posted January 28 Posted January 28 (edited) 18 hours ago, Sawyer said: I see most of the interesting weapons have been removed from the FAQ. I do wonder how that wasn't nailed down a week ago, but it is now, apparently. Probably that was/is the planned weapon set but they don't want anyone chiseling them down into stone in case it changes. Hence the large bold lettering on the FAQ and only mentioning weapons that are for sure going to be implemented at this time. It's also not unprecedented as Weapons have come, gone, and returned again on roadmaps for all other flagship modules. Edited January 28 by Wizard_03 1 DCS F/A-18C :sorcerer:
Kev2go Posted January 29 Posted January 29 (edited) On 1/24/2025 at 2:08 AM, evanf117 said: as far as im aware our F-5E, being an F-5 that was sold to the Swiss and then bought back from them for aggressor's would have had the guns and radar removed, so i dont know why ED is trying this "realism" line when our F-5E still has a radar and functional guns unless you have a different reference material then i do, the 2006 natops which covers F5E/F/N variants the F5N still has a radar installed with operation of APQ 159 described. Only some F5F's did not have radars installed and the above aforementioned manual has cockpit diagrams for radar and non radar installed F5F. The only thing missing from making it an F5N proper is the lack of digital radios and INS which is what the swiss had, which is noted in the manual to describe the difference between the F5N and the older F5E aggressors Navy had. There was no explicit mention of removal of guns, and the manual still had diagrams of how they are installed, and instruction on how to do aerial gunnery with with the gunsight and/or aid of radar. Edited January 29 by Kev2go Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD
Lyrode Posted January 29 Posted January 29 It appears having or not having real world reference doesn't change much in DCS. Just say, FW190A8's ata, and the AG capability of F-15C as is confirmed by T.O. 1F-15A-1 and -34, and the accuracy problem of M61 gun, the ability to partially load 9A4172, and the list goes on. I do hope you guys have better luck though. 1
ED Team NineLine Posted January 29 ED Team Posted January 29 50 minutes ago, Lyrode said: It appears having or not having real world reference doesn't change much in DCS. Just say, FW190A8's ata, and the AG capability of F-15C as is confirmed by T.O. 1F-15A-1 and -34, and the accuracy problem of M61 gun, the ability to partially load 9A4172, and the list goes on. I do hope you guys have better luck though. Sir, this is an F-35 thread. Please stay on topic, thanks. 5 2 Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug**
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted February 16 Posted February 16 On 1/27/2025 at 7:32 PM, Sawyer said: I see most of the interesting weapons have been removed from the FAQ. I do wonder how that wasn't nailed down a week ago, but it is now, apparently. Jumping the gun, no doubt. Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
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