4c Hajduk Veljko Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 It is rather obvious that the "LERXlerons" are very active at slow speeds. Dogfight with PAK FA, anybody? It is rather obvious that the "LERXlerons" are very active at slow speeds. Dogfight with PAK FA, anybody? Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
PAKFA Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) Super Stealth technology for the T-50. :thumbup: Edited August 15, 2011 by PAKFA
159th_Viper Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 Outstanding - such a pretty Aircraft :thumbup: Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Pilotasso Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 Just curious to see how it will stack against the classic flanker. .
Cali Posted August 15, 2011 Posted August 15, 2011 It is rather obvious that the "LERXlerons" are very active at slow speeds. Dogfight with PAK FA, anybody? So is the F-16 leading edge... @ Flanker, that is a beautiful shot! i7-4820k @ 3.7, Windows 7 64-bit, 16GB 1866mhz EVGA GTX 970 2GB, 256GB SSD, 500GB WD, TM Warthog, TM Cougar MFD's, Saitek Combat Pedals, TrackIR 5, G15 keyboard, 55" 4K LED
combatace Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) I wonder how big are the weapon bays? From the looks of the pictures above, it me it doesn't seem to hold much. The aircraft is bigger than raptor so I think the bay are big enough. Also, I guess the leading edge of the wing is moving in F-16 not the Leading Edge Root Extension. Edited August 16, 2011 by combatace To support my models please donate to paypal ID: hp.2084@gmail.com https://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/hero2084?referral=hero2084
nscode Posted August 16, 2011 Author Posted August 16, 2011 that's what he said :) Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
aaron886 Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) It is rather obvious that the "LERXlerons" are very active at slow speeds. My assumption is that one of their primary functions is airflow control for the inlets. If anything, you might call them inboard leading edge flaps, because there's no doubt that they are a lift device, not a primary flight control. :) Any capability to make differential movements is probably very limited, if it exists. I'm interested to see what kind of PAK-FA multimedia will come out of MAKS this year. I was hoping it would fly some sort of demo, but I've not heard anything to that effect yet... Edited August 17, 2011 by aaron886
EvilBivol-1 Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 The PAK-FA is scheduled to fly at MAKS, but it is still under restrictions as the flight test program is ongoing. The test pilot said they will do up to 5G. - EB [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Nothing is easy. Everything takes much longer. The Parable of Jane's A-10 Forum Rules
aaron886 Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 Hey that's better than nothing! I'll be happy with anything remotely aerobatic.
Antartis Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 Demo-flight http://rutube.ru/tracks/4729648.html Asus Prime Z-370-A Intel core I7-8700K 3.70Ghz Ram g.skill f4-3200c16d 32gb Evga rtx 2070 Ssd samgung 960 evo m.2 500gb Syria, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Normandy 1944 Combined Arms A-10C, Mirage-2000C, F-16C, FC3 Spitfire LF Mk. IX UH-1H, Gazelle
Frostiken Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) I find it interesting that it's supposed to be "stealthy" (or at least a complete F-22 knockoff) but they didn't do anything with the inlet ducts. Fanblades are one of the the biggest and most obvious radar reflectors on an airframe. They're literally straight tubes, unless they put an array of baffles or something inside, which would seriously compromise its supersonic capability. That means that if this thing is flying in your direction, you will see it on radar. Hell even if it's flying away from you you'd see it even better. I don't like it. The overall design is quite obviously lifted straight from the F-22, while the engines with that moronic rear-facing radar spur looks as bad as it does on every other Russian aircraft. I also hate the F-14 look with the engines wildly displaced apart from each other, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense from a design perspective either - there's not much to be gained from doing that and, in the event of an engine failure, it makes the aircraft extremely difficult to control. I'm highly skeptical of its stealth capabilities and, considering it's Russian, its avionics package as well. Does anyone know if this is *really* stealthy, or is it like China's stealth fighter where they just put angles on everything, copied some pictures off the internet, and hoped for the best? Edited August 17, 2011 by Frostiken 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Nate--IRL-- Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 Well to be fair it is still a prototype and hasn't even received its production engines. There was discussion of radar blockers for the inlets IIRC, but you never can be sure what the production model will have at this point. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
GGTharos Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 It's not supposed to be an F-22 knock-off. I'm fairly certain they said they weren't trying to directly compete with the F-22. This aircraft however will be a seriously dangerous adversary against anything that is NOT an F-22 or F-35, and it'll be quite a bit more of a challenge against those than all the non-stealthy aircraft of the world. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Frostiken Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) The aircraft is bigger than raptor so I think the bay are big enough. Yes, well the Raptor is also the fat kid of the fighter world... the thing is pudgy all around specifically for the internal weapons bays - this thing looks pretty slim. The F-22 has two bays for missiles on the outboard sides of the engines, this doesn't seem to have anything like that - only a small bay between the engines, and it doesn't look very deep. Edited August 17, 2011 by Frostiken [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 It has two bays between the engines, and you're right, they're not too deep. It also has two bays for short range AAMs specifically - the two pods under the wings. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Frostiken Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) It does? I don't really see anything big enough to even fit an AIM-9 in, but it's hard to tell what I'm looking at. The things that do look like weapon bays are the landing gear. Edited August 17, 2011 by Frostiken [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 Yes, so say certain reasonably reliable sources; though we've never seen those bays open. Look at the wing roots just a bit outside of the engine nacelles. You'll see a triangular pod on each wing. Allegedly those are for AAMs. I don't know if they can fit an R-73, but one way or the other, new missiles are being developed to go with this aircraft anyway. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Frostiken Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 (edited) The big long skinny thing? I assumed that was an actuator housing for the leading-edge flaps and the "ramp" (or 'lerxlerons'... or whatever). You can see the same style housing on the flaps and ailerons... that's for the actuators... but none exists for the leading-edge flaps. Obviously something has to drive it... and the fact that it just happens to butt up against the corner of the ramp seems awfully convenient. It is unusually big and long for just an actuator housing, but it just doesn't seem big enough to properly house a legit air-to-air missile. If it really does, I can only picture it working with a very short-ranged LOAL missile. Pop-out fins and the like. Edited August 17, 2011 by Frostiken [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Recommended Posts