BronzeBuddha Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Is something going to be done about the aft fuselage and nozzles? Even if the nacelles get covered with RAM, there are quite a few 90 degree joints back there, which is supposed to be a big no no when it comes to stealth. Also, even with RAM those nozzles are quite exposed, so I presume they would be changed in production aircraft?
Weta43 Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 It is supposed to get new engines. Will they look much different ? Hopefully.. Cheers.
NOLA Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 I meant the original stabs on T-50-2, not the originals from -1. Either way, there was a REASON to change out to T-50-2 stabs, and with how new the airframes are, it really shouldn't be fatigue. Ergo, something was wrong with the original T-50-2 stabs. Well, not only T-50-2 changed stabs. -1 got a completely new set too. As i said, originally neither flew with strengthening plates on them, but at some point they started to. That is when they got new stabs. I'm not saying it's not a basically sound design- just that it appears it's still quite a ways from being ready for primetime Yeah, and i am not trying to diss T-50 or anything btw. I am just as interested in problems as good news. Su-27 also started being produced with extra strengthening plates, atleast on the underside of the nose. And for a while too. Did T-50-3 ever get the reinforcement plates? T-50-3, like following frames, started flying with reinforced stabs from the onset. If you mean the reinforcement that was done over the whole frame, and especially the middle region, then no. This reinforcement straight from factory started with T-50-4. T-50-1 and -2 got retrofitted, but -3 doesn't really need it as it will be a radar bird.
SkateZilla Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Im not gonna lie, teh T-50/PAK-FA looks Mean :), If I had to put them in order, it'd be F-22, PAKFA, F-35. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
BronzeBuddha Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Yeah, and i am not trying to diss T-50 or anything btw. I am just as interested in problems as good news. Su-27 also started being produced with extra strengthening plates, atleast on the underside of the nose. And for a while too. T-50-3, like following frames, started flying with reinforced stabs from the onset. If you mean the reinforcement that was done over the whole frame, and especially the middle region, then no. This reinforcement straight from factory started with T-50-4. T-50-1 and -2 got retrofitted, but -3 doesn't really need it as it will be a radar bird. Were the Su-27 strengthening plates eventually removed? T-50-3 was seen carrying external payload, so if it were testing weapon carriage and separation, I'd imagine it would need the same reinforcements.
outlawal2 Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Im not gonna lie, teh T-50/PAK-FA looks Mean :), If I had to put them in order, it'd be F-22, PAKFA, F-35. I agree... That is a BAD-ASS looking plane... :thumbup: "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO
NOLA Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Were the Su-27 strengthening plates eventually removed? T-50-3 was seen carrying external payload, so if it were testing weapon carriage and separation, I'd imagine it would need the same reinforcements. Yes. No. Reinforcements were needed as the result of high-g's, NOT as result of payload or anything like that.
FoxHoundELite Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 external weapon?????look more badass but not very stealthy Feel the Rush of Superior Air Power [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Weta43 Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 If you're goint to have the capability, you have to test it (including stress testing the airframe I imagine) ... Cheers.
Rangi Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Anyone know what the little bubble under the nose of 055 is? Looks like a little cctv dome. The shot of 053 with external weapons and the blurred foliage in the foreground is awesome. Just like a spy in the woods near the airfield with a very long lens. PC: 6600K @ 4.5 GHz, 12GB RAM, GTX 970, 32" 2K monitor.
sobek Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Anyone know what the little bubble under the nose of 055 is? Looks like a little cctv dome. Could be a MWS receiver. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
NOLA Posted May 23, 2014 Posted May 23, 2014 Anyone know what the little bubble under the nose of 055 is? Looks like a little cctv dome. Same "R2D2" as the one on the spine. It is called KS-O, part of 101KS system. Plenty pictures online...
ФрогФут Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Could be a MWS receiver. DIRCM. "Я ошеломлён, но думаю об этом другими словами", - некий гражданин Ноет котик, ноет кротик, Ноет в небе самолетик, Ноют клумбы и кусты - Ноют все. Поной и ты.
Pilotasso Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 T50-5 was reported on the press to incorporate hull changes...or was it T50-6? .
NOLA Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 Every single prototype have had changes in one way or another. I have a feeling you are referring to a post that was made prior to T-50-5's first flight about how fantastically different it was from previous prototypes, but that was a post that has been proven to be almost 100% wrong.
BronzeBuddha Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Is the T-50 redoing static tests due to structural changes? Wonder how much heavier the definitive airframe (when strengthening plates are gone) will be compared to original goal. NOLA, are you berkut on Keypubs and flanker on Secret Projects?
NOLA Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Is the T-50 redoing static tests due to structural changes? Wonder how much heavier the definitive airframe (when strengthening plates are gone) will be compared to original goal. Yes, T-50-7 will be a new static test frame. NOLA, are you berkut on Keypubs and flanker on Secret Projects? Yes.
Nate--IRL-- Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 That actually looks like it's in DCS :) Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
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