Amarok_73 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Not mentioned in today's release notes, but I have feeling that FM is much more stable now. 1 Natural Born Kamikaze ------------------------- AMD Ryzen 5 3600, AMD Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4, AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, 32 GB RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX, PSU Modecom Volcano 750W, Virpil Constellation Alpha Prime on Moza AB9 base, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, Turtle Beach VelocityOne Rudder.
Raven434th Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) Seems erratic and fluttery...ball is jumping all over the place on cold war map...not behaving as it should IMO Edited April 18 by Raven434th 4 MODUALS OWNED AH-64D APACHE, Ka-50, UH-1H, Mi-8MTV2, Mi-24,MiG-29 FF, Gazelle, FC3, A-10C, A-10CII, Mirage 2000C, F-14 TOMCAT, F/A-18C HORNET, F-16C VIPER, AV-8B/NA, F-15 E, F-4 Phantom, MiG-21Bis, L-39, F-5E, AJS 37 Viggen, MiG-19, F-86, MiG-15Bis, Spitfire IX, Bf-109K, Fw-190D, P-51D, CA, COLD WAR GERMANY,SYRIA, AFGHANISTAN,NEVADA, NORMANDY, PERSIAN GULF, MARIANA ISLANDS,SUPER CARRIER, WORLD WAR II ASSETS PACK, HAWK T1 SYSTEM SPECS AMD 7600X 4.7 Ghz CPU , MSI RX 6750 12 gig GPU ,32 gig ram on Win11 64bit.
[DE] T-Bone Posted April 18 Posted April 18 9 hours ago, Amarok_73 said: Not mentioned in today's release notes, but I have feeling that FM is much more stable now. No changes were listed in the patch notes. What exactly is supposed to be more stable? 2 Main machine: Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 64Gb 3600Mhz, Gainward RTX 5080 Phoenix V1 Second machine: Ryzen 5 5600X, 32Gb 3600Mhz, ASrock 7700 XT Equipment: microHELIS Bell 206 Pedale + Toe-Brakes, microHELIS OH-58D Collective, DIY FFB-Rhino clone, Realteus Forcefeel, TrackIR 5
Amarok_73 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 He seems to be not so keen to dance anymore... Natural Born Kamikaze ------------------------- AMD Ryzen 5 3600, AMD Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4, AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, 32 GB RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX, PSU Modecom Volcano 750W, Virpil Constellation Alpha Prime on Moza AB9 base, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, Turtle Beach VelocityOne Rudder.
[DE] T-Bone Posted April 18 Posted April 18 24 minutes ago, Amarok_73 said: He seems to be not so keen to dance anymore... I cannot confirm this after the current patch. It is still very unstable in the yaw channel and the error pattern is still there. As long as there is nothing in the patch notes, I think the impression is rather subjective. 2 Main machine: Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 64Gb 3600Mhz, Gainward RTX 5080 Phoenix V1 Second machine: Ryzen 5 5600X, 32Gb 3600Mhz, ASrock 7700 XT Equipment: microHELIS Bell 206 Pedale + Toe-Brakes, microHELIS OH-58D Collective, DIY FFB-Rhino clone, Realteus Forcefeel, TrackIR 5
Qnnrad Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) This is a shame, and the "w.i.p." tag and ED response are offensive, should be changed to "l.o.l." to suit it better. Nevertheless, I have reverted back game version to before this rejected-as-bug bug was introduced and it's so much better. I have created a mod for you to download and enjoy hovering Apache in most recent updates (untill it gets repaired by ED in two weeks), OvGME ready for main install, or unpack and overwrite yourself: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3344365/ Changes were in the FM/config.lua file, I have compared and below is all that was changed, if you are curious and maybe just maybe ED will find time to look at these 3 lines when producing hotfix to mission critical disability of switching Laser on/off introduced yesterday. 2.9.13.6818.2 - 05.03.2025: 425: pitchHold_K_wz = 0.3, 441: altHold_pitchRefAdd_max = 0.0, 442: altHold_alt_loss = 5, 2.9.14.8222 - 19.03.2025: 425: pitchHold_K_wz = 0.6, 441 and 442 removed added in 441: holdSwitchPeriod = 2.0, Edited April 18 by Qnnrad 1 5
jojojung Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Hope they push Out a hot fix for the yaw problem and the laser. 1
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 18 ED Team Posted April 18 A fix for the cold start laser issue is in progress. But please stick to the yaw feedback here thank you 3 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Mausar Posted April 18 Posted April 18 I revert to previous version before yaw bug and didn't update to this latest version. Now we wait for fix
stonewall197922 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 3 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said: A fix for the cold start laser issue is in progress. But please stick to the yaw feedback here thank you And when Yaw issue will be fixed?
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 18 ED Team Posted April 18 8 minutes ago, stonewall197922 said: And when Yaw issue will be fixed? flight model is work in progress, more tweaks will come in a future updates, I dont have a date to share. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
stonewall197922 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 Just now, BIGNEWY said: flight model is work in progress, more tweaks will come in a future update, I dont have a date to share. So currently its not w.i.p. More like r.i.p. 2
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 18 ED Team Posted April 18 3 minutes ago, stonewall197922 said: So currently its not w.i.p. More like r.i.p. No, I said its work in progress, so please no need for the sarcasm. 1 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 18 ED Team Posted April 18 Just a reminder, please ensure you are pressing and holding the trim until the adjustment is completed, it does seem to be catching many people out. 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Amarok_73 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 (edited) 33 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said: Just a reminder, please ensure you are pressing and holding the trim until the adjustment is completed, it does seem to be catching many people out. This requirement and it's effect is WAY MORE obvious to the FFB users, and even me, used to the FFB, but forced for last year to fly with central trim on spring centered base was pretty tough to keep as routine for helicopter steering, so I am not really surprised, that so many people has problem with Apache stability as I assume, there's still plenty of the pilots between us using spring centered joysticks. Edited April 18 by Amarok_73 Natural Born Kamikaze ------------------------- AMD Ryzen 5 3600, AMD Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4, AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, 32 GB RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX, PSU Modecom Volcano 750W, Virpil Constellation Alpha Prime on Moza AB9 base, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, Turtle Beach VelocityOne Rudder.
Qnnrad Posted April 18 Posted April 18 So not a bug, still? As indended? This is so ridiculus I regret literacy today. Every time I try to reinvest myself in DCS something like this comes up and kills all my passion. Thankfully my mod works, so why do I bother. Good luck holding your trims.
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 18 ED Team Posted April 18 3 minutes ago, Qnnrad said: So not a bug, still? As indended? This is so ridiculus I regret literacy today. Every time I try to reinvest myself in DCS something like this comes up and kills all my passion. Thankfully my mod works, so why do I bother. Good luck holding your trims. Team are going to take another look at it. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Floyd1212 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 2 hours ago, BIGNEWY said: Just a reminder, please ensure you are pressing and holding the trim until the adjustment is completed, it does seem to be catching many people out. Forgive me if I get my acronyms wrong, but what we are discussing (complaining about) here is the way the Yaw Channel of the SCAS is behaving when it is trying to help control the yaw of the aircraft. When you hold FTR for significant maneuvering, you are disabling (or at least reducing) the assist the SCAS system is providing, so of course you won't see the problem while you are holding FTR. What we are seeing (feeling) is overcompensation in the yaw channel when making small adjustments with the pedals while not holding FTR. For example, while rotating the aircraft to a new heading while in a hover, with ATT Hold enabled. 1 hour ago, BIGNEWY said: Team are going to take another look at it. Thanks!
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted April 18 ED Team Posted April 18 8 minutes ago, Floyd1212 said: Forgive me if I get my acronyms wrong, but what we are discussing (complaining about) here is the way the Yaw Channel of the SCAS is behaving when it is trying to help control the yaw of the aircraft. When you hold FTR for significant maneuvering, you are disabling (or at least reducing) the assist the SCAS system is providing, so of course you won't see the problem while you are holding FTR. We understand dont worry, and we have been discussing this exact point internally. We want to make the experience good for you all and the team will be taking another look. have a great weekend 3 2 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Ulfrun Posted April 18 Posted April 18 21 hours ago, Bigity said: Guess this wasn't on the fix list for the patch today. Unfortunately not ...
Hammer1-1 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 well someone made a small fix...worth looking at. Im going to try. https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3344365/ 2 Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot. My wallpaper and skins On today's episode of "Did You Know", Cessna Skyhawk crashes into cemetery; over 800 found dead as workers keep digging.
Leg2ion Posted April 18 Posted April 18 19 hours ago, Amarok_73 said: Not mentioned in today's release notes, but I have feeling that FM is much more stable now. DIsagree. At first I did think something had changed for the better but wishful thinking on my part. That instability is still there and creeps in if not ready for it. Thing is - in my experience - there appears to be no 'constant' - one minute there can be a small deviation and the next it amplifies itself. Have downloaded @Qnnrad hotfix so will give it a go. Thanks to @Qnnrad for doing the research. 1 AMD Ryzen 5 5600X; ASUS ROG Strix X570-F, Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2x 32GB) 3600MHz; Seagate FireCuda 510 500GB M.2-2280 (OS); Samsung 860 EVO 2TB M.2-2280 (DCS); MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU. TM Warthog Hotas; T.Flight Pedals; DelanClip/Trackhat.
Amarok_73 Posted April 18 Posted April 18 1 hour ago, Leg2ion said: Have downloaded @Qnnrad hotfix so will give it a go. Thanks to @Qnnrad for doing the research. Sadly it's not IC compatible... Natural Born Kamikaze ------------------------- AMD Ryzen 5 3600, AMD Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4, AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, 32 GB RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX, PSU Modecom Volcano 750W, Virpil Constellation Alpha Prime on Moza AB9 base, Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, Turtle Beach VelocityOne Rudder.
Leg2ion Posted April 18 Posted April 18 3 minutes ago, Amarok_73 said: Sadly it's not IC compatible... For me currently not a problem. Single player only. AMD Ryzen 5 5600X; ASUS ROG Strix X570-F, Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2x 32GB) 3600MHz; Seagate FireCuda 510 500GB M.2-2280 (OS); Samsung 860 EVO 2TB M.2-2280 (DCS); MSI GeForce RTX 3090 SUPRIM X 24GB OC GPU. TM Warthog Hotas; T.Flight Pedals; DelanClip/Trackhat.
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