Generation zero jets in DCS

[PLAAF]

I heard that we are going to get Me-262. So, on that note, how about MiG-9, Yak-17, IL-10, F-80 and F-9 as well? All were used in the Korean War.

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/11177380

 

Edited March 31 by PLAAF

[MAXsenna]

Yes please!

[F-2]

Always loved the look of the P-80. Actually kinda surprised we never got a T-33 in DCS.

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

I'd definitely be game for an F-80, F-84, or Vampire.

Actually, want a real curve ball? Bolivian Shooting Stars. Their CT-133s (Canadair produced T-33s) were in service until August 2017 when they were replaced by Hongdu K-8s.

[PLAAF]

OK, I forgot the F9 as well. Over 1000 were made and were the only carrier-borne jet fighter in the Korean War, I think. 

Think about it, we are already getting the F4U and A-1; the MiG-9, F80 and the F9 will complete the Korean War.

Edited March 28 by PLAAF

[Mr_sukebe]

Of course it might actually be useful if we had Korea as a map.  

[upyr1]

2 hours ago, Mr_sukebe said:

Of course it might actually be useful if we had Korea as a map.  

It might not be the right time period for 1st generation jets but we do have Europe coming up. 

[bies]

6 hours ago, upyr1 said:

It might not be the right time period for 1st generation jets but we do have Europe coming up. 

F-80C, F-84E/G, F-9F-4/F-5, Meteor F.8, F3D Skyknight, FJ-1 Fury - all were used during Korean War. And all would be great for Cold War Germany as well.

Though we have such exotic, non-combat maps for mostly fictional scenarios, yet Korea 1950s is still absent.

[Mach3DS]

A full up 1950's Korean war would be out of this world.  all those aircraft mentioned would be a welcome addition!

[PLAAF]

Ok, finally, let me add Yak-17 as well.

[upyr1]

On 3/28/2025 at 2:01 PM, bies said:

F-80C, F-84E/G, F-9F-4/F-5, Meteor F.8, F3D Skyknight, FJ-1 Fury - all were used during Korean War. And all would be great for Cold War Germany as well.

Though we have such exotic, non-combat maps for mostly fictional scenarios, yet Korea 1950s is still absent.

I am all for a Korea  map(s), I'd also love more Soviet WWII early cold war assets. As I keep pointing out we havethe I-16 and Mig-15 and the upcoming LA-7 but we lack the supporting assets for a decent mission. I'd love to see ED start adding Soviet WWII assets to cover as much of the period between June 1944 (introduction of the LA-7) to June 1953 (the end of the Korean war).  I figure the cut off dates for a priority are the asset must be in service by June 1944 and retire no earlier than june 1950 

 

 

[PLAAF]

8 hours ago, upyr1 said:

I am all for a Korea  map(s), I'd also love more Soviet WWII early cold war assets. As I keep pointing out we havethe I-16 and Mig-15 and the upcoming LA-7 but we lack the supporting assets for a decent mission. I'd love to see ED start adding Soviet WWII assets to cover as much of the period between June 1944 (introduction of the LA-7) to June 1953 (the end of the Korean war).  I figure the cut off dates for a priority are the asset must be in service by June 1944 and retire no earlier than june 1950 

Agree. We need more of those assets.

But for the Chinese side, it can be simple. We only need the following:
(The Red ones in the list are also served in WW2)

Tu-2 Bomber
IL-10 Attack plane
Li-2 transport plane
T-34-85 Medium tank
IS-2 Heavy tank
Su-76 Assault gun
Su-100 Tank destroyer
ISU-152 Tank destroyer/Assault gun
37mm M1939 AAA
100mm KS-19 AAA
122mm M-30 Howitzer
152mm ML-20 Howitzer
57mm ZiS-2 anti-tank gun
76mm ZiS-3 anti-tank gun
100mm BS-3 anti-tank gun
Katyusha Rocket Artillery
Type 506 Rocket Artillery
ZiS-150 truck

Whiskey class submarine
Gnevny-class destroyer
Shantou class gunboat (Based on P-6 but with its own weapon set consisting of 2x twin-37mm guns and 2x 14.5mm anti-air guns)

20mm Type 98 AAA (captured from the Japanese during WW2)
75mm Type 38 Fieldgun (captured from the Japanese during WW2)

As you can see, most of them are reusable from the WW2 asset pack if they make them.
By the way, this is a Type 506 Rocket Artillery made by China.

And I can't believe I forgot about the IL-10. We are getting the A-1. So we must have the IL-10 to be fair. 

Edited March 31 by PLAAF

[Silver_Dragon]

1 hour ago, PLAAF said:

Agree. We need more of those assets.

But for the Chinese side, it can be simple. We only need the following:
(The Red ones in the list are also served in WW2)

Tu-2 Bomber
IL-10 Attack plane
Li-2 transport plane
T-34-85 Medium tank
IS-2 Heavy tank
Su-76 Assault gun
Su-100 Tank destroyer
ISU-152 Tank destroyer/Assault gun
37mm M1939 AAA
100mm KS-19 AAA
122mm M-30 Howitzer
152mm ML-20 Howitzer
57mm ZiS-2 anti-tank gun
76mm ZiS-3 anti-tank gun
100mm BS-3 anti-tank gun
Katyusha Rocket Artillery
Type 506 Rocket Artillery
ZiS-150 truck

Whiskey class submarine
Gnevny-class destroyer
Shantou class gunboat (Based on P-6 but with its own weapon set consisting of 2x twin-37mm guns and 2x 14.5mm anti-air guns)

20mm Type 98 AAA (captured from the Japanese during WW2)
75mm Type 38 Fieldgun (captured from the Japanese during WW2)

As you can see, most of them are reusable from the WW2 asset pack if they make them.
By the way, this is a Type 506 Rocket Artillery made by China.

And I can't believe I forgot about the IL-10. We are getting the A-1. So we must have the IL-10 to be fair. 

T-34 Tank was show by ED on the 2025 and Beyond video on January 2025.
Wiskey submarines has no a WW2 submarine, on fact, was launched on 1951, on fact, WW2 Soviet subs was others:

• Type L (Leninets) Series XIII-38 SS [5 +1] (1941 - 56)
• Type Shch (Shchuka) Series Xbis SS [13] (1941 - 58)
  ...
• Type S (Stalinets) Series IX SS [3] (1936 - ?)
• Project 96M (Malyutka) Series XV SSC [58] (1943 - 66)
• Project 613 [Whiskey] SS [215] (1951 - 90)

The PLAN first Submarines was:

• Ex-Russian Type S (Stalinets) Series IXbis SS [4] (1954  - 70s)
• Ex-Russian Project 96M Series XV SSC [4] (1954 - ?)
• Type 6603/Type 3/Russian Project 613 [Whiskey] SS [21] (1956 - 90s) 

Me262 / P-80 / DH-100 Vampire / Gloster Meteor, etc has Gen 1 Jet Fighters, only the PLA has "Gen 0".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fighter_generations

Edited March 31 by Silver_Dragon

[PLAAF]

6 hours ago, Silver_Dragon said:

T-34 Tank was show by ED on the 2025 and Beyond video on January 2025.
Wiskey submarines has no a WW2 submarine, on fact, was launched on 1951, on fact, WW2 Soviet subs was others:

• Type L (Leninets) Series XIII-38 SS [5 +1] (1941 - 56)
• Type Shch (Shchuka) Series Xbis SS [13] (1941 - 58)
  ...
• Type S (Stalinets) Series IX SS [3] (1936 - ?)
• Project 96M (Malyutka) Series XV SSC [58] (1943 - 66)
• Project 613 [Whiskey] SS [215] (1951 - 90)

The PLAN first Submarines was:

• Ex-Russian Type S (Stalinets) Series IXbis SS [4] (1954  - 70s)
• Ex-Russian Project 96M Series XV SSC [4] (1954 - ?)
• Type 6603/Type 3/Russian Project 613 [Whiskey] SS [21] (1956 - 90s) 

Me262 / P-80 / DH-100 Vampire / Gloster Meteor, etc has Gen 1 Jet Fighters, only the PLA has "Gen 0".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fighter_generations

When I said generation zero, I meant those before the back-swept wing.

We were just talking about the Korean War, and most of those on the list can be used in WW2 as well.

Thanks for letting me know about the submarine. I will uncolour them.

Edited March 31 by PLAAF

[upyr1]

9 hours ago, PLAAF said:

Agree. We need more of those assets.

But for the Chinese side, it can be simple. We only need the following:
(The Red ones in the list are also served in WW2)

Tu-2 Bomber
IL-10 Attack plane
Li-2 transport plane
T-34-85 Medium tank
IS-2 Heavy tank
Su-76 Assault gun
Su-100 Tank destroyer
ISU-152 Tank destroyer/Assault gun
37mm M1939 AAA
100mm KS-19 AAA
122mm M-30 Howitzer
152mm ML-20 Howitzer
57mm ZiS-2 anti-tank gun
76mm ZiS-3 anti-tank gun
100mm BS-3 anti-tank gun
Katyusha Rocket Artillery
Type 506 Rocket Artillery
ZiS-150 truck

Whiskey class submarine
Gnevny-class destroyer
Shantou class gunboat (Based on P-6 but with its own weapon set consisting of 2x twin-37mm guns and 2x 14.5mm anti-air guns)

20mm Type 98 AAA (captured from the Japanese during WW2)
75mm Type 38 Fieldgun (captured from the Japanese during WW2)

As you can see, most of them are reusable from the WW2 asset pack if they make them.
By the way, this is a Type 506 Rocket Artillery made by China.

And I can't believe I forgot about the IL-10. We are getting the A-1. So we must have the IL-10 to be fair. 

both sides of the Korean war used a lot of World War II leftovers which is why I stated that they should be the primary focus. I'd live a IL-2/10 module 

7 hours ago, Silver_Dragon said:

T-34 Tank was show by ED on the 2025 and Beyond video on January 2025.

cool I can't wait to see it in DCS 

[upyr1]

1 hour ago, PLAAF said:

When I said generation zero, I meant those before the back-swept wing.

We were just talking about the Korean War, and most of those on the list can be used in WW2 as well.

Thanks for letting me know about the submarine. I will uncolour them.

There are a lot of differnt classifications out there so I figured WWII and Korea

[Silver_Dragon]

14 hours ago, PLAAF said:

When I said generation zero, I meant those before the back-swept wing.

Fighter generation only applies to jet fighters. The rest are classified as piston-powered fighters and the rare rocket-powered fighters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighter_aircraft