Electronic Warfare Aircraft

[AC130]

With the upcoming addition of the F-35 and its advanced features like the AN/ASQ-239 ew suite bringing offensive electronic warfare, it could be a good time to introduce specialized electronic attack aircraft like the EF-111 and/or EA-6B to DCS. 

[AndyJWest]

Good luck finding any documentation...

[twistking]

9 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

Good luck finding any documentation...

Fair. Could be interesting as AI aircraft though...

[Kang]

Could be interesting, but would require the whole EW side of things in DCS to at least have a simple modeling that is reasonably consistent throughout the world.

Not even talking about the whole multiplayer balance thoughts that I understand many people don't care about, but in any scenario such a concept would be wildly disappointing if it was only effective for a select few targets and others were completely immune.

[twistking]

Just now, Kang said:

[...] but in any scenario such a concept would be wildly disappointing if it was only effective for a select few targets and others were completely immune.

Amen! DCS needs consistency... and i'm not even a PvP guy.

[Silver_Dragon]

19 minutes ago, twistking said:

Amen! DCS needs consistency... and i'm not even a PvP guy.

This isn't about "balance," it's about reality. If you can't build something because there's no documentation (since much of that information is classified), then good luck trying to invent its functionality on your own (it's like trying to add both elctronic offensive and defensive capabilities to a ship)...

[MAXsenna]

This isn't about "balance," it's about reality. If you can't build something because there's no documentation (since much of that information is classified), then good luck trying to invent its functionality on your own (it's like trying to add both elctronic offensive and defensive capabilities to a ship)...

He never mentioned "balance", he specifically wrote consistency, and in this context it means that it should be on the same level of "reality" across all the modules.
You are of course correct about the documentation.

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[tora117]

On 9/27/2025 at 3:26 PM, AndyJWest said:

Good luck finding any documentation...

If ED actually has the documentation they claim to have to model the F35, modeling other older EW aircraft should be a breeze.

[draconus]

4 hours ago, tora117 said:

If ED actually has the documentation they claim to have to model the F35, modeling other older EW aircraft should be a breeze.

This is your false assumption.

[twistking]

A Vietnam Era SEAD/EW bird should be doable. Even if public documentation might be limited, the EW capabilities of those vintage jets could be guesstimated rather well i believe...

 

[Dragon1-1]

The problem is, capabilities are one thing, how they are used is another. EW aircraft have a lot of gear that allows them a lot of control over their jammers. Even a Vientam era design will be equipped with knobs for every parameter imaginable, and those knobs would be tuned based on what the operator sees on the screen. What's classified, even for Vietnam era jammers, is how it all comes together. Radar modeling in DCS is pretty detailed on new modules, so it follows the jamming would have to be, too.

[twistking]

2 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

The problem is, capabilities are one thing, how they are used is another. EW aircraft have a lot of gear that allows them a lot of control over their jammers. Even a Vientam era design will be equipped with knobs for every parameter imaginable, and those knobs would be tuned based on what the operator sees on the screen. What's classified, even for Vietnam era jammers, is how it all comes together. Radar modeling in DCS is pretty detailed on new modules, so it follows the jamming would have to be, too.

Good point (unfortunately).

[upyr1]

16 minutes ago, twistking said:

A Vietnam Era SEAD/EW bird should be doable. Even if public documentation might be limited, the EW capabilities of those vintage jets could be guesstimated rather well i believe...

We discussed Wild Weasels here. 

 

We have two discussions about the F-4G here 

I'm skeptical about getting full EW or Wild Weasel module. However I don't see why we couldn't have these planes as AI assets. We'd need a better EW modeling.

I'd love to have the EB-66 and EA-3 for Vietnam era missions

[upyr1]

11 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

The problem is, capabilities are one thing, how they are used is another. EW aircraft have a lot of gear that allows them a lot of control over their jammers. Even a Vientam era design will be equipped with knobs for every parameter imaginable, and those knobs would be tuned based on what the operator sees on the screen. What's classified, even for Vietnam era jammers, is how it all comes together. Radar modeling in DCS is pretty detailed on new modules, so it follows the jamming would have to be, too.

9 hours ago, twistking said:

Good point (unfortunately).

The EB-66 and EA-3 had a crew of 7. So even if all the information needed was open source, any module would require the AI to do most of the lifting. Which is why it would make way more sense to use that to improve the AI. The best I think we could get would be the Wild Weasels. They were two seaters on the blue side we have the base aircraft for one already in the game and another in the pipe. 

[twistking]

2 hours ago, upyr1 said:

[...] They were two seaters on the blue side we have the base aircraft for one already in the game and another in the pipe. 

You mean the Phantom? What other weasel is in the pipe? 

[draconus]

5 minutes ago, twistking said:

You mean the Phantom? What other weasel is in the pipe? 

Technically we have none and none is planned. But the general types we have are F-4 and F-16, with A-6 coming soon.