AussieFX Posted September 12, 2009 Posted September 12, 2009 (edited) Apologies if this has been posted elsewhere. ATI Eyefinity (new 5 series videocards) has been shown running X-Plane using 24 separate monitors in Linux. This might fix all the multimonitor dramas I have seen on this forum in one fell swoop. :thumbup: http://www.semiaccurate.com/2009/09/10/ati-eyefinity-runs-wow-at-7k-resolution/ http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NzUyNQ Edited September 12, 2009 by AussieFX spelling and added a link 1
G3 Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 (edited) this is some big news in gaming visuals be gone the th2go boxes and the like. i saw over @ the ati site 3 widescreens in portrait mode with possibly 3 others for instruments, shkval and abbris now that would make for a nice flight sim setup http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/eyefinity/Pages/eyefinity.aspx?info=EXLINK hopefully nvidia will step up with something similar hey AussieFX: what kind of display are you running, looks like you have a nice spec system. it makes my last new one look and sound old :D Edited September 13, 2009 by G3
Deadman Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 Great find!!! https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
Callsign.Vega Posted September 13, 2009 Posted September 13, 2009 I could never really get "into" these multi monitor setups. Having 5 cm of plastic bezel everywhere you look between all of the monitors totaly ruins it for me. GPU: RTX 4090 - 3,000 MHz core / 12,000 MHz VRAM. CPU: 7950X3d - 5.2 GHz X3d, 5.8 GHz secondary / MB: ASUS Crosshair X670E Gene / RAM: G.Skill 48GB 6400 MHz SSD: Intel Optane P5800X - 800GB VR: Pimax Crystal CONTROLS: VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base / VPC Constellation ALPHA Prime Grip / VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle / TM Pendular Rudders
connos Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 I could never really get "into" these multi monitor setups. Having 5 cm of plastic bezel everywhere you look between all of the monitors totaly ruins it for me. About that ATI mention that Samsung will come with a new monitor design to eliminate this. As for the technology is very impressive and if its affordable i see my self getting something like this. I find it much needed than the nvidias 3D Stereo thing. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] ASUS M4A79 Deluxe, AMD Phenom II X4 940@3.5GHz, ATI 6870 1GB, Windows 7 64bit, Kingstone HyperX 4GB, 2x Western Digital Raptor 74GB, Asus Xonar DX Sound Card, Saitek X52 PRO, TrackIR 44: Pro.
Callsign.Vega Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 I hope Samsung comes out with better offerings then their current thin bezel designs. So far all I think they have is a 1920x1080 46" line that costs like $5000. GPU: RTX 4090 - 3,000 MHz core / 12,000 MHz VRAM. CPU: 7950X3d - 5.2 GHz X3d, 5.8 GHz secondary / MB: ASUS Crosshair X670E Gene / RAM: G.Skill 48GB 6400 MHz SSD: Intel Optane P5800X - 800GB VR: Pimax Crystal CONTROLS: VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base / VPC Constellation ALPHA Prime Grip / VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle / TM Pendular Rudders
AussieFX Posted September 14, 2009 Author Posted September 14, 2009 (edited) From what I understand Samsung are bringing out panels with clear bezels. So you will still have the "gap" between screens but at least there's no big black line, which I don't like. I think ATI just put Matrox dualhead and triplehead boxes out of business though. Edited September 14, 2009 by AussieFX
AussieFX Posted September 14, 2009 Author Posted September 14, 2009 hey AussieFX: what kind of display are you running, looks like you have a nice spec system. it makes my last new one look and sound old :D I just use one Dell 2407-HC. I don't have room for anymore. I'm another who doesn't like the bezels either, I just prefer one large screen. Getting back to the GPU's for a sec, the reports I have seen are showing that one 5870 should be slightly more powerful than a GTX295. :thumbup:
Maximus_G Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 I could never really get "into" these multi monitor setups. Having 5 cm of plastic bezel everywhere you look between all of the monitors totaly ruins it for me. That's not the only drawback of the "big screen" stuff. I can name another one - big screen puts you at disadvantage in fight, if the screen's field of view goes beyond the human eyes's zone of maximum attention (sorry don't know the exact English-language term, it's physiological). The zone size is about 60 degrees only. People tend to see things far worse beyond that zone. It's easy to miss something small and stationary there... while the guy with an old 17'' won't miss ya. You can move your eyes and head around, but it takes time. Of course there are great advantages too. When your vision is filled with the picture, including side vision, it influences even your vestibular apparatus, you feel like you're really flying.
Kuky Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 naah, looking at those 24 monitors hurts my eyes, you see so many rectangles over the screen... not to mention who'd have place and money to get 24 monitors? I am all for high res large size 1 screen also. No longer active in DCS...
HitchHikingFlatlander Posted September 14, 2009 Posted September 14, 2009 Who cares about the monitors with frames? Not the only monitor made and think of the implications if you use a projector! http://dcs-mercenaries.com/ USA Squad
theGozr Posted September 15, 2009 Posted September 15, 2009 Well here an example.. Just need two more vertical monitor.. In Flight sim vertical is king!! I always said this, :) Fly it like you stole it..
JG14_Smil Posted September 16, 2009 Posted September 16, 2009 Building a cockpit puts you at a disadvantage to someone using a simple desktop setup (in a dogfight) and periphial vision is what really help to make the feeling of motion (when there is none) so there are two sides to every coin. That's not the only drawback of the "big screen" stuff. I can name another one - big screen puts you at disadvantage in fight, if the screen's field of view goes beyond the human eyes's zone of maximum attention (sorry don't know the exact English-language term, it's physiological). The zone size is about 60 degrees only. People tend to see things far worse beyond that zone. It's easy to miss something small and stationary there... while the guy with an old 17'' won't miss ya. You can move your eyes and head around, but it takes time. Of course there are great advantages too. When your vision is filled with the picture, including side vision, it influences even your vestibular apparatus, you feel like you're really flying.
AussieFX Posted September 16, 2009 Author Posted September 16, 2009 There is more here. http://www.elitebastards.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=796&catid=16&Itemid=29 On page 2 is a list of currently supported games. FSX and Xplane9 are there, unfortunately Blackshark isn't listed (yet) maybe it wasn't tested I don't know but if it doesn't work then ED need to get onto it. They can't let an opportunity like this go begging. That being said I can't see any reason why BS wouldn't work.
Callsign.Vega Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 There are a few LCD TV's that have super thin bezels built by Samsung. They are quite expensive though. Last I checked like $5000 for a 46 inch. I don't care what anyone says, having all of those huge bezels all over the large image is a complete deal breaker. Look's horrible. The only other way to really get around a seamless image is with projectors. Then of course the costs skyrocket with multiple projects, screens, mounts etc. Huge space requirements for projecting from behind the screens and costs rising even further with special short throw lenses. Then once you have everything installed, you run into the image distortion issue when you change the angles of the screen to all point toward the viewer. Without a wraparound image being put out from the flight simulator, it can look quite odd displaying a single flat 2D view on displays that change the viewing angle. Most simulator software does not have the capability for that kind of compensation. Heck, even the Blackhawk helicopter simulators that I instruct students in are the same way and it looks like crap. And those are multi-million dollar full motion simulators. For now, I'd rather take one large display at high resolution with TrackIR over displays with plastic everywhere on the screen or displays with goofy viewing angle problems. GPU: RTX 4090 - 3,000 MHz core / 12,000 MHz VRAM. CPU: 7950X3d - 5.2 GHz X3d, 5.8 GHz secondary / MB: ASUS Crosshair X670E Gene / RAM: G.Skill 48GB 6400 MHz SSD: Intel Optane P5800X - 800GB VR: Pimax Crystal CONTROLS: VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base / VPC Constellation ALPHA Prime Grip / VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle / TM Pendular Rudders
AussieFX Posted September 26, 2009 Author Posted September 26, 2009 Got the card (5870) now I just need another 5 1920x1200 monitors. :p
Shaman Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 All cool. but I hate the frames :( 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
Deadman Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 buy projectors instead of monitors:music_whistling: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/133818-deadmans-cockpit-base-plans/#comment-133824 CNCs and Laser engravers are great but they can't do squat with out a precise set of plans.
JG14_Smil Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 people that don't run multi-monitor always "hate the frames", yet a person that runs them never complains about it. :)
JG14_Smil Posted September 26, 2009 Posted September 26, 2009 please share what you think of the card when you get a chance. Got the card (5870) now I just need another 5 1920x1200 monitors. :p
Callsign.Vega Posted September 27, 2009 Posted September 27, 2009 people that don't run multi-monitor always "hate the frames", yet a person that runs them never complains about it. :) Uhh ya, thats the point ;). They hate the frames so thats why they don't have a multi-monitor setup. GPU: RTX 4090 - 3,000 MHz core / 12,000 MHz VRAM. CPU: 7950X3d - 5.2 GHz X3d, 5.8 GHz secondary / MB: ASUS Crosshair X670E Gene / RAM: G.Skill 48GB 6400 MHz SSD: Intel Optane P5800X - 800GB VR: Pimax Crystal CONTROLS: VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base / VPC Constellation ALPHA Prime Grip / VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle / TM Pendular Rudders
hannibal Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 i will hold off from HD5000 series until they get the monitor support capability straighten out.. i am reading that in order to use tirplehead, you need at least one Display port connection... You CANNOT do 2x DVI + 1x HDMI find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179
CyBerkut Posted September 29, 2009 Posted September 29, 2009 i will hold off from HD5000 series until they get the monitor support capability straighten out.. i am reading that in order to use tirplehead, you need at least one Display port connection... You CANNOT do 2x DVI + 1x HDMI I've been following a thread about that over on the SoftTH forums. In a nutshell: - There are two versions of the ATI 5870 card. The ones you typically see available now, which have 1 Display Port, 2 DVI ports and 1 HDMI port. The other version is a 6 (mini) Display Port card. - The card being used in the spiffy demos with 6 monitors per card is (obviously) the 6 Display Port version. - The ones that you typically see now only have 2 DVI channels internally. The result of that is an attempt to use the HDMI port, or the Display Port with a passive Display Port-to-DVI converter, robs a DVI port of a channel, disabling it. Using an active Display Port-to-DVI converter (which are more expensive) can get you up to a third working DVI connection, as I understand it. ****************************************************** As one might imagine, this has led to some consternation. Right now, there are not a lot of Display Port monitors on the market, and they are pricey. Assuming it is possible / feasible, it would be nice to see ATI design a version with 6 DVI channels / connections. Perhaps there will be enough market pressure to lead them in that direction. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] There's no place like 127.0.0.1
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