Pilotasso Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 This is total and utter BS. I have 2 i repeat 2 holdon maybe you didn't get that I have 2 LiteOn CD/DVDrws in 2 machines. 1 a two year old IDE and the other a 2 month old SATA, (both were bought from Argos) and I have NOT had ANY problems with either of them and I have both DCS and Lockon and have installed and re-installed both on my 2 machines several times. My girlfriend can confirm this as she has ripped quite a few cd's onto her system and I have played several music cd's on mine even straight after installing either Lockon or DCS. I don't know whats going on with your system mate, if a lazer burns out it's proberbly the drive itself and NOT DCS. So next time, replace the drive and leave Eagle Dynamics out of it!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: Actualy I had a DVD writer die out after installed BS (after I booted the next session I installed it). I was bafled but didnt want to draw any rushed conclusions. .
tflash Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 There is something fishy with the DVD-player .... 2 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Shrike_UK Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Always better to Think before one Speaks! Back to the Copy-Protection....... Again - Fatally Flawed Logic! 2. Protection driver 2.1 Do the applications that require activation via the Internet use the protection driver? No! Since such applications require no optical media in the drive and do not check the uniqueness of such media, they require no protection against optical drive emulators, and therefore, do not use special protection driver designed to work with optical media. However, according to a publisher’s choice, some applications can employ the protected container technology; the driver is used in this case. I like the way you conveniently left out the part i have highlighted in bold red, no doubt hoping nobody else read far enough to notice that i am right to have my reservations. What would solve this issue is for ED to say whether or not they do use this container technology that uses the drivers, because Star Force are literally using their marketing abilities, knowing that most people will assume a false sense of security if they do not read the instructions fully, which of course, helps to sell their product, but them the small print gets them out of any legal implications if they are found out. And, who doesnt read the manual? 99% of people. If somebody actually commits a yes we do or no we dont use the drivers then they are commited to it. With regards to monitor resolution switching, if theres a respectable LCD monitor guru out there with an unbiased opinion, then im happy to listen and beleive if there a suitable explaination that prooves the rumour wrong. I would rather know the truth than take gambles thanks. It isnt my intention to bash ED about it, just looking to find an answer. 1
GGTharos Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Why don't you just check what drivers are running on your OS? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
AustinN360 Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Originally Posted by 159th_Viper Always better to Think before one Speaks! Back to the Copy-Protection....... Again - Fatally Flawed Logic! Quote: 2. Protection driver 2.1 Do the applications that require activation via the Internet use the protection driver? No! Since such applications require no optical media in the drive and do not check the uniqueness of such media, they require no protection against optical drive emulators, and therefore, do not use special protection driver designed to work with optical media. However, according to a publisher’s choice, some applications can employ the protected container technology; the driver is used in this case. I like the way you conveniently left out the part i have highlighted in bold red, no doubt hoping nobody else read far enough to notice that i am right to have my reservations. What would solve this issue is for ED to say whether or not they do use this container technology that uses the drivers, because Star Force are literally using their marketing abilities, knowing that most people will assume a false sense of security if they do not read the instructions fully, which of course, helps to sell their product, but them the small print gets them out of any legal implications if they are found out. And, who doesnt read the manual? 99% of people. If somebody actually commits a yes we do or no we dont use the drivers then they are commited to it. I think what you are talking about here Shrike, is ONLY applicable to programs that use Starforce (such as Lockon) and not to Blackshark as this uses an entirely different security system than Lockon does. Hence asking for a serial key for both versions of the Sim. As far as I know (ED back me up on this) if you only install DCS and not the current Lockon, you won't have the security drivers (that scan your FC cd to make sure it's genuine) installed on your as the disk never needs to be scanned! 1
159th_Viper Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 I like the way you conveniently left out the part i have highlighted in bold red, no doubt hoping nobody else read far enough to notice that i am right to have my reservations...... Quite Right......Forgive me, but I was not going to Insult your Intelligence by Stating the Obvious. I will take Care not to Repeat that Mistake again ;) Should you have taken the time to read through the F.A.Q.'s of DCS:Black Shark prior to Shooting your Mouth Off, you would indeed have noticed that the Copy-Protection utilized does not employ the protected container technology! As such the inclusion of that specific phrase is not relevant at all to the Product which you seem to have an issue with, ie DCS: Black Shark. With Me? ...What would solve this issue is for ED to say whether or not they do use this container technology that uses the drivers,... They have..........Ad Nauseum.....You do not seem to want to Hear. But why believe me? Use the Search Function, or better yet, Read the F.A.Q. ;) Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
Shrike_UK Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Ok thank you for correcting me, and no i dont have a problem with you Viper. I'm still mystified why my CD read laser stopped working and the DVD laser didnt though directly after installing BlackShark. Its a coincidence i find hard to ignore. And why should StarForce need a pc reboot? whats does it do sub-OS? All things being said though, i've had a good read around some threads here about 2.0 and found some really good posts from people about how MP will be better as ECM cooldown etc is adressed/implemented, and some really good tactical usage of the helis with fixed wing a/c, and i gotta say, that it all is getting my imagination going for some great missions. 4
Vekkinho Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 OK guys be gentle with Shrike, he's our new member and his opinion should be considered and respected. We do not force anyone to like or love the sim that unites us and everyone should be given a chance of free speech. I'm sure that Shrike UK would start understanding the sim and growing patience in his syllabus with it if we offer him some advices instead of Red Rep he got so far! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Panzertard Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Ok thank you for correcting me, and no i dont have a problem with you Viper. I'm still mystified why my CD read laser stopped working and the DVD laser didnt though directly after installing BlackShark. Its a coincidence i find hard to ignore. And why should StarForce need a pc reboot? whats does it do sub-OS? Many system changes still require reboots because how they are loaded are during the system startup. Which means it requires a reboot to start up the first time. The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning
159_Archer Posted December 1, 2009 Posted December 1, 2009 Not seen it mentioned or asked anywhere, but, are we gonna be able to change weapon load-outs with the LOFC aircraft in game with FC2.0? Be a darned nice addition if we can! :) :) :) 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 159th Guards Aviation Regiment; recruiting now! http://www.159thgar.com/ We now fly all modern Jets and Helos
AustinN360 Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Not seen it mentioned or asked anywhere, but, are we gonna be able to change weapon load-outs with the LOFC aircraft in game with FC2.0? Be a darned nice addition if we can! :) :) :) You can already do this in LoFC, just before you go into the actual game and fly!
Nate--IRL-- Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 You can already do this in LoFC, just before you go into the actual game and fly! I think he means in cockpit, like Black Shark. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
AustinN360 Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Oh. Ok. Was a little lost in translation there I'm thinking.
Arrowhead Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 I just found out about this. Wow, this is exactly what I wanted. :thumbup: Bring it on! Wish we could buy this for Christmas. :music_whistling: I just can't wait! Multiplayer is going to be alive again. :joystick: Intel i9 12900K ROG Ryujin II Hydro Cooler PNY GeForce RTX 5090 OC EpicX 64GB RAM DDR5-6000
sunwolf Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) I wish: 1.The fonts on HUD and VSD of USA aircraft were more thick. 2.There were some red or green instrument lights show the Su-25's NAV or combat mode and sub-mode. Edited December 2, 2009 by sunwolf == Welcome to 3GO Cyber Air Force == http://bbs.3gofly.com/en
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Pilotasso Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Didnt ED mentioned that the starforce verion for FC 2.0 is different by not using drivers because of user concern? So whats this discussion about? .
EtherealN Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 Correct. FC2 uses the same protection as DCS (Starforce ProActive). There are no drivers installed with it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
Squid Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 (edited) Apologies if this has been answered somwhere here ..... just cant find it so far *blush* : will there be extra plane "slots" in FC2 to add more custom aircraft instead of replacing the stock ones ? (very annoying) . Edited December 3, 2009 by Squid . i7 880 | HD 7870 | 8 Gb DDR3 1600 | ECS P55H-A | OCZ Vertex 2 180 | Intel 330 180 | WD 500 AAKS | 2x WD 2T Green | Enermax Liberty 620 | CH Combatstick & Throttle | TrackIR 3 | HP ZR24W | Windows 7 x64
element1108 Posted December 2, 2009 Posted December 2, 2009 KA's and 25's in perfect harmoney. Can't wait!
AustinN360 Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 I wish: 1.The fonts on HUD and VSD of USA aircraft were more thick. 2.There were some red or green instrument lights show the Su-25's NAV or combat mode and sub-mode. Have you had a look over at lockonfiles.com for the Hud font's? Apologies if this has been answered somwhere here ..... just cant find it so far *blush* : will there be extra plane "slots" in FC2 to add more custom aircraft instead of replacing the stock ones ? (very annoying) You can do this anyway with LoFC by editing your meinit file in your lockon\ME folder.
Kuky Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 You cannot add new aircraft slotsm, you can add skin slots but not aircraft. PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
AustinN360 Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 You cannot add new aircraft slotsm, you can add skin slots but not aircraft. If you can't "add" more slots, tell me how simmod managed it with their A10, or how walmis did it with the F15?
Kuky Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 erm... they used existing aircraft slot, F-15 for F-15 and A-10 for A-10 PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
AustinN360 Posted December 3, 2009 Posted December 3, 2009 If you can't "add" more slots, tell me how simmod managed it with their A10, or how walmis did it with the F15? erm... they used existing aircraft slot, F-15 for F-15 and A-10 for A-10 DOH!!!! :music_whistling::music_whistling::music_whistling::doh: I thought he meant skin slots as some people do call them aircraft slots. Serves me right for looking at the post when I got my mind on other things!
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