Announcing Flaming Cliffs 2.0

[GGTharos]

No, it has not.

[Dr_Watson]

I will be waiting at the door in my sleeping bag with $15 in my hand begging ED to take it from me.

 

Some people just dont get it do they?

 

$15 has different values to different people.

 

Like I said, I will wait on some feedback and see what I do. The thought of online multiplaying with DCS sounds great. I now see that it is a bit more than a patch, lets wait and see.

[RipKirby]

Water

 

I am very excited, great news. And thanks ED.

 

• 
  Considering how much water is on the map, can we get a working tail hook on the f-14, oh pretty please with sugar on top? Flying the SU-33 as an f-14/18 is a bit old.
  

• What was mentioned earlier with two-seaters in multi-player is something I would ask you to consider. Imagine future applications, like Apaches or even AC-130s :gun_smilie:
  

 

Again, thanks a bunch. I am really looking forward to this! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

 

I am fully aware this is not the wishlist thread so lay off the flaming.

[talisman]

Get what? If this product is worth its price i buy it, if not, i'd not. Got it?

 

I will probably get it even if its not changing much, cos different interface alone is not enough, to draw 15 bucks out of me. Biggest difference for me will be dual core support as it will significantly increase fps on my machine :)

New map is also interesting feature as i don't care much about new su-25 3d model.

So for me its worth 15 dollas, but if someone else don't think its fair to pay that much for a patch, leave him alone. No need to attack anyone.

No one forces You people to buy it. Its your free will. Got it?

 

 

You need to take some tablets my friend and perhaps calm down a little. My comment was not ment to be offensive, i was just pointing out that a lot of work has gone into this patch and $15 dollars is not a lot of money for a new game engine and MP options. I could have been issues as a stand alone game after all.

 

You on the other hand WHERE being offensive and that does not show you in a good light.

 

Dr Watson has commented above and has not taken offence (and he is right to) - please leave others to voice their own oppinions before you jump in waving a very misdirected fist at others.

 

I shall say no more on the subject.

 

(Apologies for the minor hijack - please continue....... :)

[104th_Crunch]

I see that others have asked about the following, but I must ask again becasue these things are important for the multiplayer community. I hope someone is able to reply please. From the way Black Shark works, I am concerned about the following...

 

In FC 2 multiplayer, can each client select there own skin? Can each client select custom weapons for each individual pylon? Finally, what about custom client tail numbers.

 

These things are available now in Flaming Cliffs. I hope we do not lose functionality that we have now as they are important to online squadrons. Think how events like Red Flag etc. would change.

 

Thanks!

[Rikus]

$15 has different values to different people.

 

 

Sure.

 

I think 15 dolars for something that should be solved many time ago it´s expensive.

 

Would be different if for that 15 dolars, include another AFM for at least 1 aircraft, but pay 15 dolars to fixe the AI? improved the poor online capability?

 

...

 

Greetings

[czarnyolek]

talisman i did not mean to be ofensive in any way. If you feel that way i'd like to apologise, but my intention was just to point to You, that you donta have a right to condemn anyone for not willing to spend his money on what could be considered as a patch.

As Dr_Watson said, fifteen bucks means different value for civil engineer in UK and road sweeper in Ukraine. Even thou both like to play LO.

[asparagin]

fifteen bucks means different value for civil engineer in UK and road sweeper in Ukraine. Even thou both like to play LO.

:megalol:

 

I heard that road sweepers actually introduced the concept of "fighter sweep"..

[Lucas_From_Hell]

But you often forget prices are different for CIS countries and the rest of the world.

 

Take DCS as an example, it costs 40 dollars in the US and less than 15 in Russia, IIRC.

 

So please, don't worry about Ukranian road-sweepers. They'll be able to play as well :D

[talisman]

talisman i did not mean to be ofensive in any way. If you feel that way i'd like to apologise, but my intention was just to point to You, that you donta have a right to condemn anyone for not willing to spend his money on what could be considered as a patch.

As Dr_Watson said, fifteen bucks means different value for civil engineer in UK and road sweeper in Ukraine. Even thou both like to play LO.

 

 

Apologies all round = im sorry too.

 

Have a big hug. :thumbup:

[Airway]

But you often forget prices are different for CIS countries and the rest of the world.

 

Take DCS as an example, it costs 40 dollars in the US and less than 15 in Russia, IIRC.

 

So please, don't worry about Ukranian road-sweepers. They'll be able to play as well :D

You have to compare these prices with wages and cost of living.

[EvilBivol-1]

In FC 2 multiplayer, can each client select there own skin? Can each client select custom weapons for each individual pylon? Finally, what about custom client tail numbers.

No, these things will be as in Black Shark, but all of the FC flyables will have the ability to re-arm in-game.

[Erdem]

No, these things will be as in Black Shark, but all of the FC flyables will have the ability to re-arm in-game.

 

I think we already have that?

[Aeroscout]

No, these things will be as in Black Shark, but all of the FC flyables will have the ability to re-arm in-game.

What about selecting tail numbers, as many have a preference, and some of us squad pilots have a set number we always fly with.

 

Aero

[EvilBivol-1]

I think we already have that?

Sorry, I meant the ability to change payloads in-game as in Black Shark.

What about selecting tail numbers, as many have a preference, and some of us squad pilots have a set number we always fly with.

Again, as in Black Shark, answer is no.

[159th_Falcon]

What about selecting tail numbers, as many have a preference, and some of us squad pilots have a set number we always fly with.

 

Aero

 

Again, as in Black Shark, answer is no.

 

Uh oh, any change that future updates will implement custom tail numbers?

Since a few weeks i fly whit the 159th guards aviation regiment and we are one of the squads using set Tail Numbers for each induvidual pilot. (mine is 76 for example)

[159th_Viper]

Since a few weeks i fly whit the 159th guards aviation regiment and we are one of the squads using set Tail Numbers for each induvidual pilot. (mine is 76 for example)

 

Already sorted - We have Custom Skin Slots with attendant Tail#'s for each Pilot atm for the Kamov. Will in all probability just be followed through for the Fixed-Wings too :)

[Laud]

Always kinda funny when things develope backwards...

 

But squadrons needs have never had much priority.

 

Anyway, the whole idea of FC 2.0 is kinda strange. Two worlds collide.

[159th_Falcon]

Already sorted - We have Custom Skin Slots with attendant Tail#'s for each Pilot atm for the Kamov. Will in all probability just be followed through for the Fixed-Wings too :)

 

We have? where? i have never been able to change my tail number in DCS:BS?

(plz note im talking about multiplayer)

[159th_Viper]

We have? where? i have never been able to change my tail number in DCS:BS?

(plz note im talking about multiplayer)

 

We Do Indeed - Will talk about it over a Pint in the Sukhoi Arms. Best not derail this thread any further :)

[Turuk_Makto]

anythings new about a rough releasedate? Some info would be apriciated...:music_whistling:

[EvilBivol-1]

No change to the previously stated "early 2010".

Edited January 12, 2010 by EvilBivol-1

[Turuk_Makto]

Thanks for quick reply although early 2010 is a much expandable term, but the final reuslt will worth it...looking forward pretty much though :pilotfly:

[104th_Crunch]

Already sorted - We have Custom Skin Slots with attendant Tail#'s for each Pilot atm for the Kamov. Will in all probability just be followed through for the Fixed-Wings too :)

 

 

Viper, please elaborate. You mean in the mission you have set up slots with each one of the 159th's tail number? What if some non-159th picks the slot? edit: I see now your new message above. Please PM me the details if would be so kind.

 

 

EvilBivol-1,

Thanks so much for replying to my questions. Of course in the long run FC 2 will bring more to the table, but I don't understand going backwards in regard to tailnumbers, skins and loadouts. I guess it is to ease the workload, but really, taking away current functionality will be depressing. I guess I will have to take the 99 out of my signature. Unless perhaps Viper can offer some suggestions please. Small things I know, but mutiplayer is all I play with Lock On.

Edited January 12, 2010 by Crunch

[EvilBivol-1]

FC2 is based on the Black Shark code. The features in question were no longer supported when the Black Shark multiplayer and GUI code was written. ED did invest in adding code to support payload changes for the FC flyables in the new code, which was not there to start with (in Black Shark).

Edited January 12, 2010 by EvilBivol-1