JD_LincsUK Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Hi all despite being an FC vet, I'm a BS recruit and am getting frustrated about the F12 key being assigned to the comms menu. I never used the comms menu in FC - I flew as a lone wolf, for once, and didn't need it - I don't find it very realistic, would have been much, much better using voice recognition, as it is so good these days (a la FSX add-ons). I digress - now that I'm gonna really need that comms menu, I am struggling to find an efficient way of assigning either the TrackIR centre function, or the comms menu exit function, in a way that keeps both simple to use in relation to the other controls. I would like to hear if anyone has any neat solutions, other than simply 'uh, map it to something else'! What, exactly? I usually have as much as possible (including TrackIR controls) mapped to my X52 via SST. I'm amazed that ED/DCS assigned F12 to something in-game, when also enabling TrackIR use. At least the Mission Editor is so much more user friendly now - at least for the simple ones :) TiA JD c/s "Bustard"
Shaman Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Why don't you just remap default TIR keys to something else using TIR software for DCS/FC profiles? I am amazed you find it a problem. Doh! 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer
JD_LincsUK Posted January 10, 2010 Author Posted January 10, 2010 Because there are so many keys for BS, and being a rookie, I have no idea whether stuff is used or not and wanted to hear if anyone had a neat solution other than simply "Duh - remap it" To what? Thanks. JD
159th_Viper Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 , other than simply 'uh, map it to something else'! What, exactly? Scroll Lock? NumLock? F9? Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
JD_LincsUK Posted January 10, 2010 Author Posted January 10, 2010 Never mind. Bye sorry - Viper, didn't see your answer - aren't those used in-game, too?
Boulund Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 I think I have my recenter mapped to something like Ctrl+Shift+F12. It works very good. Core i5-760 @ 3.6Ghz, 4GB DDR3, Geforce GTX470, Samsung SATA HDD, Dell UH2311H 1920x1080, Saitek X52 Pro., FreeTrack homemade cap w/ LifeCam VX-1000, Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1. FreeTrack in DCS A10C (64bit): samttheeagle's headtracker.dll
Cyb0rg Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 ...something like Ctrl+Shift+F12. It works very good. You can't use Ctrl-Shift+F12 its copyrighted by me. :huh: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asteroids ____________________________________________ Update this :D
159th_Viper Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 sorry - Viper, didn't see your answer - aren't those used in-game, too? I do not think so........I'll run a quick check and let you know. Edit: F9 = Shipview Scoll lock not used as far as I am aware. Numlock is used to unlock a Padlocked View. Personally i have never used this and I'm sure You have neither ;) . Just delete the relevant entry In-Game regarding the Numlock entry and reassign it to TrackIr. Let me know if you're having problems finding the entry to delete and I'll help further. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
MarcPhoenix Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 (edited) Perhaps assign key5 in numpad ? (via your TrackIR Software) :) Or check this tread http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=43276 Ps: sorry my english is bad :D Edited January 10, 2010 by Marc"Phoenix" [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] History of the Black Shark 1, 2 Le sort du Requin Noir: 1, 2, 3.
Griffin Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 I mapped it to the mouse wheel push button. It's very handy since I keep my left hand on the mouse almost all the time. I also have TIR Pause and Precision functions mapped to the mouse thumb buttons (the ones you use for internet surfing; page back, page forward). If I only could get the zoom assigned to mouse wheel, that would be sweet!
Boulund Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 If I only could get the zoom assigned to mouse wheel, that would be sweet! Isn't it already? Try switching between the different view modes (Left Alt + C) and scrolling. I use mouse scrolling bound to my slider on X52 Pro to zoom just this way. I have a button for switching between modes (LAlt+C) and then scroll using my slider - very convienient and precise. You can't use Ctrl-Shift+F12 its copyrighted by me. :huh: ;) 1 Core i5-760 @ 3.6Ghz, 4GB DDR3, Geforce GTX470, Samsung SATA HDD, Dell UH2311H 1920x1080, Saitek X52 Pro., FreeTrack homemade cap w/ LifeCam VX-1000, Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1. FreeTrack in DCS A10C (64bit): samttheeagle's headtracker.dll
Ed Hunter Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 i use the scroll lock button. one way to find out of a key us used is go into the key assignments in BS and just puss buttons if its used it will be hi-lighted i think i found 4-5 unused keys but cant rember what they are now [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Griffin Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 (edited) Isn't it already? Oh damn it is! I just never actually thought there is some use for the Alt+C if you have TrackIR. :D Thanks! Edited January 10, 2010 by Griffin
StrongHarm Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 I changed my TrackIR setup rather than BS keys. There are other games and apps that use the Fkeys.. so I just added a CTRL modifier in TrackIR to each of the Fkeys... such as CTRL+F12 instead of just F12. The left ctrl and Fkeys needed for TrackIR aren't used in BS. It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm
joey45 Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 I unmap the numpad keys, cos they are used for views I don't need them, and have the TIR keys to the numpad. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Sarge55 Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 I use the Scroll Lock it works well for re-centering TIR. Great idea joey45, I didn't think of that, frees up lots of keys. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 10700K OC 5.1GHZ / 500GB SSD & 1TB M:2 & 4TB HDD / MSI Gaming MB / GTX 1080 / 32GB RAM / Win 10 / TrackIR 4 Pro / CH Pedals / TM Warthog
joey45 Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 I deleted most of the mapped keys cos I use the clickable C/P.. I find it much easier to flick the swtich with the mouse then hold Shift+Ctrl+[key] while flying at 10 feet AGL... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Bulletstop Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 (edited) Hello, I had the same issue so I mapped mine to the numb pad * - and +, so far seems to be the best location for me. I hope that helps. Bullet Edited January 10, 2010 by Bulletstop sorry was multi taskign and screwed up the numb pad,lol I7 4790K running at 4390 with a gigabyte board with 16 gigs of ram with an Asus gtx 660-ti and 2 tb of hard drive space on 2 wd hard drives. A X-65F Hotas with trackir4 and pro combat peddles. A kick butt home built machine unfortunately running a windows 7 OS.
fangav Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 I use the f12 key for the tracker and unmapped it from the com as , if I remember rightly it is only used to scrolled back one menu. I just reset com with the \ if I need to. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
sobek Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Middle Mouse here. Using FreeTrack though. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
JD_LincsUK Posted January 10, 2010 Author Posted January 10, 2010 Thanks for all the responses - I was feeling a bit stupid after the first reply (check my c/s! :huh: ) and wasn't coming back. Anyway - Ed, thanks for that, I didn't know the key would be highlighted in the control options. I think I'll either use Scroll Lock (if I don't have it mapped in FRAPS - have to check) or those Numpad keys. I should have thought of that - in FSX I also unassign all the view keys. :doh: Cheers guys :) JD c/s Bustard
CptTangerine Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 Personally, I have the enable/disable mapped to a joystick button (the little thumb button by the mouse stick on my X45 throttle) and centre to the hat switch on the throttle. I then use the throttle mouse stick to slew the Shkval. This allows me to get to the firing point, come to a hover, switch of my TrackIR and use the other hat switch to look between the cockpit, Shkval, and ABRIS while locking up and firing on targets. I find that this allows me to zoom right in on the Shkval without having to keep my head cramp-inducingly still. Works very well for me. CPU: Intel Core i5 4590 3.3GHz, RAM: 32GB HyperX Fury 1600MHz DDR3, GFX: EVGA GTX 1080, OS: Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, Joy: TM Warthog, Peds: CH Pro Pedals, TrackIR3, VR: Vive
delevero Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 My Trackir is mapped to left CTRL + F12 No games use this key combination.. Also best tactic to use tracir to find a target with the shval is simply not to use your head all the time... just point near the target and do the rest of the targeting manual and lock the target... its the most easy thing...
StrongHarm Posted January 15, 2010 Posted January 15, 2010 My Trackir is mapped to left CTRL + F12 No games use this key combination.. Also best tactic to use tracir to find a target with the shval is simply not to use your head all the time... just point near the target and do the rest of the targeting manual and lock the target... its the most easy thing... Agreed concerning TrackIR keys. I just added CTRL modifier to each key. I've never had a conflict with those keys. Concerning view of the IT23 check out post http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=818031#post818031. I now hold num0 (or joystick or Rctrl+num0) for a full screen view of the TV. I also have IT23/Abris locked to num2 and Abris/PVI locked to num3. Very convenient (thanks again S77th-ReOrdain!) I've been practicing setting 70kmh horizontal movement, setting autoTurnToTarget and autohover, and going full screen on IT23 2.0 km from the target area. As long as there are no tall structures in the area I can completely forget about flying and evasion and concentrate on targeting on my full screen IT23. It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm
JD_LincsUK Posted January 15, 2010 Author Posted January 15, 2010 Changing the TrackIR keys is fine, but it means changing them in all my other SST joystick profiles, too (I use a joystick hat axis mapped to the TrackIR keys to control it, with the other axis mapped for zooming). Okay - 15-20 minutes work, I guess.
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