Aeroscout Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 Hey all Well, the F-15 desperately needs a cockpit makeover. I started these a while back and I think I'm going to begin again. I did the MPCD today and yesterday (still not finished. It's complicated) and I hope to complete all of the gauges some day. I thought I'd post what I have so far. There are still errors. This is just rough at the moment, but I hope it will come together well! Lights not done for all gauges I've done so far. Sorry. (Does anyone like the blue lights? I do) I should also mention I'm not that interested in photo realism. Often, I find it to be a bit too fake for my liking. Thus, I have gone for a very clear, readable feel. What do you think? If anyone wants to help in any way, just give me a shout! I have no problem giving away my GIMP files for others to work on, so long as I'm given (some) credit. :) Thanks Aero 1 DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
Ghost Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 (edited) Looking good Aero, i do like how clean the dials look and also very clear. Yes the blue lights are nice mate. Edited March 2, 2010 by Ghost [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Mnemonic Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 Nice! But I rather go with red lights, because gauge-needles are always be red when lights are on. And to have blue backlight with red needles looks not pretty, somehow many people make such colored-light mod's but always forgot about this.
MoGas Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 I use the Jumper MOD, I hope he is comeing up soon with the final version. :)
Aeroscout Posted March 2, 2010 Author Posted March 2, 2010 I use the Jumper MOD, I hope he is comeing up soon with the final version. :) Ok, I think I know where this is going, and i'm going to address it right now. I am NOT interested in trying to compete with jumpers mod. I'm making this mod for myself. I posted it here in case others were interested and if it would be worth pursuing in it's entirety. It is an alternative to jumpers mod. variety is always good! His seems to take a very warn and used look. Mine will be very clean and refined. As for the lights. I will probably make a red version. However, expect it to be much more red. I hate the stock orange-ish color. I don't have a package to download at the moment. I will once all of the main gauges are complete. i expect to do one every few days, (maybe one a week?) but don't hold me to it. Aero 1 DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
BrumTx Posted March 2, 2010 Posted March 2, 2010 Looking forward to it Aero Remember the 346 Fire Fighters, Medics & Police who died on 9-11....... Selective memory is a wonderful thing, especially when certain posts simply disappear into the ether never to be seen again, unless I have a copy of the original post copied and pasted into word documents and saved .... just in case :) Am I an abusive idiot ? Due to physical incapacity my Wife types my post's for me
Aeroscout Posted March 5, 2010 Author Posted March 5, 2010 (edited) Good News! I'm moving right along. Also, I'm really beginning to get a feel for making these and have begun to develop my own technique. Bad news: because I'm getting better, I am likely going to have to go back to older gauges and do them again to put them up to par with the others. oh well. anyway, update 3/4/10 A few modifications to the MPCD The latest dials Night lights! Suggestions suggestions suggestions!!! I want them! The more I think about it, the more I really have a desire to do the red lights. It's a simple hue change, so I'm definitely going to do it. Enjoy Aero Edited March 7, 2010 by Aeroscout DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
Udat Posted March 5, 2010 Posted March 5, 2010 (edited) I like it! Very clean and functional. But what about the raidio-panle in the top middle below the hud? Must be the ugliest area of any cockpit in lo.. Edit: About the lights, I'm very comfortable with the stock orange one, especially as it fits with the needles and reflected glow on the panels around.. Maybe you could have one version that just leaves them in stock colour? Edited March 5, 2010 by Udat Intel i7-950 @stock, Asus P6X58D-E, 3x4GB Corsair Vengeance, Asus GTX 580, Corsair 120GB SSD, Corsair HX 750W PSU [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Aeroscout Posted March 5, 2010 Author Posted March 5, 2010 I like it! Very clean and functional. But what about the raidio-panle in the top middle below the hud? Must be the ugliest area of any cockpit in lo.. Thanks! :) I will get to that. I'm really trying to figure out a strategy to tackle it. It's a very complex part with a lot of different angles and stuff. I think functional gauges come first though. ;) But I agree, it's ugly! Aero DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
Sarge55 Posted March 5, 2010 Posted March 5, 2010 I really like the clean clear style you've adopted over photo reproductions. I like the blue hue over the orange but I'll wait to see the red. The font in the dials is perfect but it seems just a bit heavy/thick, is it possible to make it slightly slimmer. Is it possible to make the needle white as well when the dial is blue? Otherwise I think it looks great. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 10700K OC 5.1GHZ / 500GB SSD & 1TB M:2 & 4TB HDD / MSI Gaming MB / GTX 1080 / 32GB RAM / Win 10 / TrackIR 4 Pro / CH Pedals / TM Warthog
Mustang Posted March 5, 2010 Posted March 5, 2010 Looking really good Aero, i like the sharp, clean look of your work :thumbup: (P.S: and i'd like to see the dials in orange too please :D)
Brit_Radar_Dude Posted March 5, 2010 Posted March 5, 2010 Can you change the 0083 that is just under the HUD ? It is the mode 3/A code which of course is in Octal, so the digits can only be in the range 0-7. A minor point I know, but one that has bugged me for over 6 years. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Sorry Death, you lose! It was Professor Plum....
Total Posted March 5, 2010 Posted March 5, 2010 Actually, they're not always octal. They can be transmitted in both hex and binary as well. Just depends on the transponder. Most aircraft are assigned a Mode S hex code. In which case, 0083 would be a valid word :) Been a looooong time since I actually paid attention to such things, so I had to look up working of the ole ICAO code lol
Aeroscout Posted March 5, 2010 Author Posted March 5, 2010 Can you change the 0083 that is just under the HUD ? It is the mode 3/A code which of course is in Octal, so the digits can only be in the range 0-7. A minor point I know, but one that has bugged me for over 6 years. I can change it no problem. I didn't know the transponder worked with numbers other than base 10. If there are any other corrections that need to be made, just tell me. Aero DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
Aeroscout Posted March 5, 2010 Author Posted March 5, 2010 Sorry, Double post here. What does the square light/button in between the 2 fire warning lights say? The stock image sucks and I can't read it. I want to think it's APU fire, but that's not what it seems like. It says something like "AMALD" but I have no idea what that is and if it's even close to correct. Anyone have any ideas? Aero DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
VIKBELL Posted March 6, 2010 Posted March 6, 2010 I like the Blue hue and a very clean look, I await your release of this mod thank you for your work. :thumbup: There are 2 categories of fighter pilots: those who have performed, and those who someday will perform, a magnificent defensive break turn toward a bug on the canopy. Robert Shaw
Brit_Radar_Dude Posted March 6, 2010 Posted March 6, 2010 Actually, they're not always octal. They can be transmitted in both hex and binary as well. Just depends on the transponder. Most aircraft are assigned a Mode S hex code. In which case, 0083 would be a valid word :) Been a looooong time since I actually paid attention to such things, so I had to look up working of the ole ICAO code lol True, but it does say Mode 3/A above it, so that will be Octal. Stretching my brain cells too ;) years since I worked on (civilian) Mode S radars, but my recollection of Mode S address allocation is that it is a 24 bit number (ie 6 Hex digits) and that they were to be assigned to individual airframes by the registering authority in that country, thus not cockpit changeable and it likely stayed with that aircraft for its lifetime. IguanaKing who used to be a regular on these forums worked on old style (Mark X) and mode S (Mark XII) transponders, shame he isn't still around. For any folks reading this and struggling to understand what on earth myself and Total are talking about, then this neat website might be of some use.... http://www.radartutorial.eu/index.en.html [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Sorry Death, you lose! It was Professor Plum....
rattler Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 True, but it does say Mode 3/A above it, so that will be Octal. Stretching my brain cells too ;) years since I worked on (civilian) Mode S radars, but my recollection of Mode S address allocation is that it is a 24 bit number (ie 6 Hex digits) and that they were to be assigned to individual airframes by the registering authority in that country, thus not cockpit changeable and it likely stayed with that aircraft for its lifetime. IguanaKing who used to be a regular on these forums worked on old style (Mark X) and mode S (Mark XII) transponders, shame he isn't still around. For any folks reading this and struggling to understand what on earth myself and Total are talking about, then this neat website might be of some use.... http://www.radartutorial.eu/index.en.html Military a/c flying in civilian airspace do so under two conditions 1. fly under control of civil aviation authority or 2. GCI control (IFR) and of course there is always VFR which are visual flight rules. Under civilian control a/c are assigned transponder codes as identification(part of) and will change once the a/c arrives at destination.also under civil control is airspace reservations where more than one a/c is involved. One a/c is picked as the command a/c and is assigned a transponder code and will also act as the contact a/c for the reservation. GCI control is military radar control and will operate under military controller directions(vectors for seperation) from other a/c. This is how transponder numbers get assigned to a/c. This is a short explaination of how transponder numbers are assigned a 4 digit code. Hope this helps.
rattler Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 Aero Nice. Keep going please, love the clean and easy read look. Blue is a little harsh to look at but that can be done easily if one wishes to have different color. I would assume your day time gauges are black and of course you will use what ever color for night that you wish. Please finish this project, very nice.Cheers.:thumbup:
Aeroscout Posted March 7, 2010 Author Posted March 7, 2010 Update 3/7/10 Improved HSI compass ring Got some lights done. This was on the same image as the compass ring... 4 new gauges (AOA, Accelerometer, Clock and Backup Airspeed) Everything in blue or with white text is stuff I've done. And in red! I'm actually really liking the red. Anyone know where to find the textures for the numbers in the Altimeter and HSI (Course and Distance counters)? Anyway, Enjoy Aero DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
Vekkinho Posted March 7, 2010 Posted March 7, 2010 During night cockpit illumination can you somehow edit MCIP buttons as they seem too white ATM?! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Aeroscout Posted March 7, 2010 Author Posted March 7, 2010 During night cockpit illumination can you somehow edit MCIP buttons as they seem too white ATM?! This was intentional, but I can make a modification for you if you want once I release the mod (or if others want the same thing). Aero DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
Moa Posted March 8, 2010 Posted March 8, 2010 Hi Aeroscout, Those textures look wonderful. Would you mind if I used them as part of some texture-mapping work I'm doing for =RvE=Yoda's LEAVU2 project? if you permit this then some of those textures might even get promoted to 3D controls. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=42942&page=66 Thanks, Mike
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