Next DCS (US) Fixed Wing Aircraft Wish List

[Krunkskimo]

Well.

 

We have an Attack Helicopter. We have a Ground attack Fixed Wing. I really think a super sonic air superiority fighter would be over kill for BS and a-10 pilots.

 

Why not a multi-role like the BAE Sea Harrier?

 

Just like how the flight model of the A-10 contrasts from the BS, this will keep simmers on their toes with yet another challenging flight model. it will allow players to dab more into air to air but allow players to still do air to ground engagements (which i enjoy the most) without breaking the envelope with what is provided already. It is roughly in the same generation of we have available now and i imagine technical specs would not be hard to obtain.

 

If V/STOL is possible to do in this game engine i believe this would be the best option.

 

I only suggest the BAE over the American AV-8 because of its record in the Falkland of both A/A and A/G. from what i understand, the AV-8 was developed as a ground attack and i am not familiar with its A/A capabilities.

 

 

or

 

DCS X-wing

DCS tie fighter

Edited August 19, 2010 by Krunkskimo

[Lio]

Id drop my pants if they did the Su-34. It also have a nice mix of A/G and A/A. But since that wont happen id go with this.

 

1: Mi-28N

2: AH64A

3: F-15E

 

I just think a pure A/A fighter is unsexy, but thats just me, i know a lot of people would properly love one.

 

And Krunkskimo we all know it should be

DCS: Millennium Falcon, well that or DCS: Super Star Destroyer just for kicks.

[Poor mans sniper]

Well.

 

We have an Attack Helicopter. We have a Ground attack Fixed Wing. I really think a super sonic air superiority fighter would be over kill for BS and a-10 pilots.

 

Why not a multi-role like the BAE Sea Harrier?

 

Just like how the flight model of the A-10 contrasts from the BS, this will keep simmers on their toes with yet another challenging flight model. it will allow players to dab more into air to air but allow players to still do air to ground engagements (which i enjoy the most) without breaking the envelope with what is provided already. It is roughly in the same generation of we have available now and i imagine technical specs would not be hard to obtain.

 

If V/STOL is possible to do in this game engine i believe this would be the best option.

 

I only suggest the BAE over the American AV-8 because of its record in the Falkland of both A/A and A/G. from what i understand, the AV-8 was developed as a ground attack and i am not familiar with its A/A capabilities.

The Sea Harrier F/A2 has very good air-to-air capabilities, to me it seems more like a dogfighter.

[sinelnic]

My preferences in order:

 

If you can go for a supersonic something with AA capabilities, by all means, go for it. I´d prefer Mig-29 but I´d equally enjoy F-18/16, F-15, Su-27, etc. Naval ops, a big plus.

 

If that´s not feasible, Su-25T, as I love the feeling of raw machine that bird surely has and you´ve reproduced so well in BS.

 

Then Apache, but that´s on par with below.

 

If none of the above, meaning there´s no military contract you can leverage, why not focus on new engine (multithread and full DX11 with new terrain or re-engineered existing terrain, dynamic atmosphere, advanced cloud system) / full career mode / maintenance simulation / dynamic campaign / whatever? I personally would pay for a beefy "back-end" upgrade as I would for a new module.

[Chewie]

F/A-22 Raptor!

[kingneptune117]

F-16C block 52 hands down. no questions asked. plenty of declassified material, unlike the raptor.

[Krippz]

F-16C block 52 hands down. no questions asked. plenty of declassified material, unlike the raptor.

 

Couldn't agree with you more!

[Poor mans sniper]

F-16C block 52 hands down. no questions asked. plenty of declassified material, unlike the raptor.

Agreed, although I do like the f-15's cockpit better though :music_whistling:

[Speed]

Yup, F-16, it fulfills both A-G and A-A requirements, though in multiplayer, a two-seater aircraft would be more fun :)

[wildone_106]

Well I was kinda hopeing for this>>

 

[Avilator]

I was hoping for this guy::music_whistling:

[sinelnic]

I was hoping for this guy::music_whistling:

 

LOL talking about laser recycling... that guy would not care having to wait 30 minutes to use it again... Russian technology is thousands of years ahead of its time :D

[Topgun505]

Things I would like to see.

 

AH-64 A. I'd love to see the 64D but that's too classified at this time to do accurately. I love the Ka-50, but you can't throw that thing willy-nilly across the sky at high speed due to the prospect of rotor-clash. The 64 doesn't suffer from that problem ... would love to see what that thing would be capable of.

 

F-15 A or C. This would be great to see as there hasn't been a high fidelity F-15 sim in a long long time. I would think by now the A would be declassified enough to pull off.

 

F-16 A block 52. Lead Pursuit made a good sim of this aircraft, at least in regards to the aircraft itself. And the campaign system is top notch. But the AI is rather iffy in how it was implemented. I'd love to see this aircraft redone using todays technology and DCS's know-how. And as was mentioned, this aircraft does both A-A and A-G so would be a good fit with the rest of the aircraft up to this point.

[power5]

If we are talking single seat, many of the wish list items are out.

 

F14 2 seat (would die for this though)

F18 2 seat models and single seat (I think its hideous though)

Tornado 2 seat (Love the look)

Flankers have 2 and 1 seat options

 

I would love a eurofighter or something like it. Tornado would be cool also, but its a 2 seat. F16 is boring to me. Would love the Hind or Apache, but they are 2 seat. Most attack choppers are 2 seat I think. I would like the cobra too. Not going to get any of the raptors most likely. I am fine with a-g planes as they have more blowing stuff up potential. Not sure how exciting it is to blow stuff up at 20 miles away. I am going to pick up Lock on and FC2 after I get trackIR for my BS.

 

 

I know I will buy any thing that DCS releases. I don't care what it is, I will buy it. I love sims and they are the first to give you so much. I hated the old sims where every thing had to be a keystroke. I love interactive pits.

[159th_Falcon]

Things I would like to see.

 

AH-64 A. I'd love to see the 64D but that's too classified at this time to do accurately. I love the Ka-50, but you can't throw that thing willy-nilly across the sky at high speed due to the prospect of rotor-clash. The 64 doesn't suffer from that problem ... would love to see what that thing would be capable of.

 

 

Im afraid you would be disappointed in the regard of maneuverability of the AH64.

I bet the Shark is more maneuverable.

About the high speed, the AH64 is kinda slow poke, especially when fully loaden. Ive heard from quite reliable sources that an empty Chinook is faster then an empty Apache.

The AH64 may not have colliding rotors, you will have an vulnerable Tail rotor and it sure is possible to clip your own tail boom off whit the blades.

Which has happened IRL to numerous type's of helicopters, for various reasons.

 

As a final note, look around for some videos of Frazer doing aerobatics in the KA50. I have seen him doing Loops, Barrel Rolls, Pedal turns and a whole lot of other crazy stuff a name hasn't even been invented for yet.

 

It just takes a lot of practice to succeed in what you want though.

[Gandalf_56]

My wish is:

 

F/A18-E

F-14C

 

The huge arsenal that F/A18 can carry on plus realistic Naval Ops is my first choice for the next DCS aircraft.

Come on DCS!!! bring us real Naval Ops!!!!!!!!! :thumbup:

[power5]

The Apache makes up for speed with its deadly accuracy and payload I believe.

 

What maneuver causes the rotor to contact the tail? Would that just be a lot of negative G? Shame of the BS is that turning to hard causes rotor crash. I would expect you can pull as hard on the stick as you want in positive G maneuvers in the Apache.

[Chris CDN]

What maneuver causes the rotor to contact the tail? Would that just be a lot of negative G? Shame of the BS is that turning to hard causes rotor crash. I would expect you can pull as hard on the stick as you want in positive G maneuvers in the Apache.

 

I think what he's refering to are low-G pushovers which aren't a concern in helicopters like the Apache. Helicopters which have a fully articulated rigid rotor system don't have to worry about mast bumping or anything like that. Teetering underslung rotor systems like the ones in the Huey are prone to colliding with the tail boom if you're in a low-G or negative G situation.

 

[Weta43]

I love the Ka-50, but you can't throw that thing willy-nilly across the sky at high speed due to the prospect of rotor-clash.

Look on the avaition thread of these forum's - Sikorsky has just set a new speed record for a helicopter with a design copied from a couple of Kamov's competition concept drawings from the '80's*

 

Same rotor configuration as Ka-50 (etc)

 

*(probably not true - simillar responses to simillar problems, but it does look like a cross between the V-80 & v-100 concepts in the DCS-BS manual :-)

[power5]

I think what he's refering to are low-G pushovers which aren't a concern in helicopters like the Apache. Helicopters which have a fully articulated rigid rotor system don't have to worry about mast bumping or anything like that. Teetering underslung rotor systems like the ones in the Huey are prone to colliding with the tail boom if you're in a low-G or negative G situation.

 

 

I have no idea what you just said. :joystick:

[sobek]

I think what he's refering to are low-G pushovers which aren't a concern in helicopters like the Apache. Helicopters which have a fully articulated rigid rotor system don't have to worry about mast bumping or anything like that. Teetering underslung rotor systems like the ones in the Huey are prone to colliding with the tail boom if you're in a low-G or negative G situation.

 

Mast bumping has nothing to do with the rotor hitting the tailboom, instead it's the rotor hub 'sawing' off the rotor mast.

 

And i think you're mixing things up, you can't have a fully articulated and rigid rotor system, it's either fully articulated or rigid. The apache has a fully articulated system, if i'm not mistaken. I believe that a tail boom strike is indeed possible with a fully articulated system.

[snowman123]

F/A-22 Raptor!

NO! :chair:

[636_Castle]

I've been browsing through the pages and tallying up some of the totals. Here's what I've seen so far:

 

1st Place: F-16/F-18 Tied

2nd Place: Tied w/ Apache and F-15

 

The best choice though, would have to be the F-18. Modern naval aviation offers too much diversity and a huge amount of new challenges to sim veterans. With the Russian flyables in FC, Russian Advanced Flight Models, Russian Su-33 Carrier Ops, and Russian Attack Helicopter in DCS, I'd be blown away if I had to fly something else with cockpit translations. I really don't think using a HOTAS to move a 150 knot low-g chopper would be all that immersive, so I'm really hoping in the next DCS module, I'm able to fly with a little more than turbofans or propeller blades. And if they want a real challenge, put some carrier ops in there :smilewink:

Edited August 23, 2010 by 636_Castle

[joey45]

This being a wish list....

 

Anglo/European plane would be a nice change of scenery

[Tracer2k]

I'd really love to see something light and nimble like Alpha jet or something like BAE Hawk or F-5 for aerobatics in the same realism as Black Shark and Warthog. I know its not going to happen, but one can wish, right? :)

Maybe a 3rd party addon if it's possible in future.