Next DCS (US) Fixed Wing Aircraft Wish List

[diecastbg]

What you think about MiG-23 is there any chances to be added in DCS future module ?

[Avimimus]

I would say that the Mig-27 is a better bet. After all 90% of the avionics are done and it has a fairly simple cockpit. It would actually be a neat airplane to fly, fast enough to justify hunting A-10s, but principly a light bomber (I have seen photos of them with SPPU-22s)...

[Esac_mirmidon]

I think Mig-23 could be interesting ONLY if they model the M version, or the most modern ones, because old Mig-23 could add nothing but the same well known older radar and weapon systems.

 

Somebody with high reputation in Russia ( a friend of mine ) told me that the radar of the Mig-23M was fairly superior to the initial radar of Mig-29 early variant ( 9-12 ) and Mig-23 pilots were more capable to gain advantage with this radar than in the Fulcrum.

 

About Mig-27 is the same case, if modern variants with laser designators and visor systems in the nose are modeled, yes i agree. But if we could have the older ones , IMHO is a repetition of the same capabilities of the Frogfoot but in a faster jet.

 

[Geier]

Oh)))) I *want* all Migs to be added there))):P

[-akyla-]

i didn't even know that the 'M' variant ..

it's pretty darn cool !!:)

[Avimimus]

Yes, it is basically a frogfoot but with a slightly lighter load and an ability to go air to air in visual range. Do you know how different the M (with the Gsh-6-30) is from the earlier variants?

[amalahama]

...Somebody with high reputation in Russia ( a friend of mine )...

 

Wow Esac, I didn't know that you even knew somebody in Russia :lol: Your tentacles are very long, dude...

 

Regards!!!

[Force_Feedback]

I know you could fire the gun only 8 or 10 times becase of the pyrocartridges used to get the thing going.

What about the Indian upgrade, new rwr, one or two mfds, a HUD, pretty nice to see this old dog is still going strong.

[Kusch]

[amalahama]

 

Wow!! It looks like a war of the worlds' monster!! :megalol::megalol:

 

Regards!!

[Weta43]

F-16 maiden flight 1974, Mig-23 maiden flight 1967:

 

After the US received Egyptian Mig-23MS during the 70's :

 

"The Dutch pilot Leon Van Maurer, who had more than 1200 hours flying F-16s, flew against MiG-23ML Flogger-Gs from air bases in Germany and the U.S. as part of NATO's aerial mock combat training with Soviet equipment. He concluded that the MiG-23ML has superiority on the vertical plane over early F-16 variants, is just slightly inferior to the F-16A on the horizontal plane, and has superior BVR capability.

The Israelis tested a MiG-23MLD that defected from Syria and found that it had better acceleration than the F-16 and F/A-18.

 

....

 

Another MiG-23 evaluation finding in the US and Israel reports was that the MiG-23 has a HUD that doubles as a radarscope, allowing the pilot to keep his eyes focused at infinity and work with his radar. It also allowed the Soviets to dispense with the radarscope on the MiG-23. This feature was carried over into the MiG-29, though in that aircraft a CRT was carried on the upper right corner that can act as a radarscope as well. Western opinions about this "head-up radarscope" are mixed. The Israelis were impressed, but an American F-16 pilot criticizes it as "sticking a transparent map in front of the HUD" and not providing a three-dimensional presentation that will accurately cue a pilot's eyes to look for a fighter as it appears in a particular direction."

[Solidburn]

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Aircraft/Specs/MiG-27-Upgrade-Cockpit.jpg

 

Came across this and thought I"d share:D

[Kusch]

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Aircraft/Specs/MiG-27-Upgrade-Cockpit.jpg

 

Came across this and thought I"d share:D

 

Mig-27K

 

 

Mig-27ML (Indian)

 

[Kusch]

Mig-27ML (Indian before modernization)

 

 

Mig-27M

 

[Poncho]

Kusch, you find and you post always great pictures!;)

Cheers

[-akyla-]

man where do you always find these photos ??:)

I cant rep you, i have to spread some rep around;)

[Smith]

Mig-27ML (Indian)

 

Nice cockpit. It has a good balance between digital and analaog indicators. I like it.:thumbup:

[GGTharos]

That's not balance, that's dissaray caused by slapping stuff on.

[Avimimus]

Is it flies...it flies. Balance is not going into spins.

[Kusch]

http://pilot.strizhi.info/2007/11/03/4953#more-4953

[Malleus]

Who's making the Mig-27M? India? I thought Russia retired the aircraft (along with the Mig-23).

[Kusch]

India modernized;

 

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Aircraft/Specs/index.html

[Tompax]

I think Mig-23 could be interesting ONLY if they model the M version, or the most modern ones, because old Mig-23 could add nothing but the same well known older radar and weapon systems.

 

Somebody with high reputation in Russia ( a friend of mine ) told me that the radar of the Mig-23M was fairly superior to the initial radar of Mig-29 early variant ( 9-12 ) and Mig-23 pilots were more capable to gain advantage with this radar than in the Fulcrum.

 

About Mig-27 is the same case, if modern variants with laser designators and visor systems in the nose are modeled, yes i agree. But if we could have the older ones , IMHO is a repetition of the same capabilities of the Frogfoot but in a faster jet.

 

 

As I have a fetish for soviet/russian jets (seventies and eighties particulary), I have an irresistible urge to say that the plane on the left picture is a MiG-27M (or D, they are hard do differentiate; with Klen-PM laser target designator in the nose, IIRC), and the plane on the right is a MiG-27K (with Kaira laser/TV target designator)... I'm sorry, didn't mean to offend anyone... It's just important for me... Yeah, I know I should get councelling.

[tacit_blue]

My opinion is that the MiG-23 in any version should be included in the upcoming DCS developments. This a/c was a work-horse like the F-4E/F in the Cold War. I admire the F-4 series and when I see the bone yard at Tucson AZ where all the birds get their funeral, I realy get sad...

[Esac_mirmidon]

Sorry, Tompax, you cant offend me. You are only correcting me . Thanks.

 

It´s obvious that i have made a mistake writting the letters and changing the side of the models.

 

You are totally correct. The K is on the right and the M on the left.

 

Sorry again and thanks for clarify this...