Rusty_M Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I have just bought Flaming Cliffs 2 (and Black Shark) and I'm having terrible framerate problems. Just flying around, the framerate is bearable, about 10-25 fps. However, in the first mission on the A10 campaign, this drops to between 2 and 8 FPS. I have set all settings apart from resolution to low, and attempted the FPS fix, all of which made no difference. Was wondering if you fine people would be able to help My system:(a notebook) AMD Turion X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-70 2.00GHZ 4GB RAM Windows 7 32 ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 (512 MB) Laptop model is Acer Aspire 6530G Dxdiag:attachedDxDiag.txt The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 My system:(a notebook) AMD Turion X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-70 2.00GHZ 4GB RAM Windows 7 32 ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 (512 MB) Laptop model is Acer Aspire 6530G That right there is your problem. That card, and that laptop, is not meant to run complex 3D games. It's main purpose is to support stuff like youtube and other video or "internet 2.0" applications. It's not the worst I've seen try to run this application, so I'll find a link that includes some tweaks you can try to improve your situation. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage0030 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 I have just bought Flaming Cliffs 2 (and Black Shark) and I'm having terrible framerate problems. Just flying around, the framerate is bearable, about 10-25 fps. However, in the first mission on the A10 campaign, this drops to between 2 and 8 FPS. I have set all settings apart from resolution to low, and attempted the FPS fix, all of which made no difference. Was wondering if you fine people would be able to help My system:(a notebook) AMD Turion X2 Dual-Core Mobile RM-70 2.00GHZ 4GB RAM Windows 7 32 ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 (512 MB) Laptop model is Acer Aspire 6530G Dxdiag:attached[ATTACH]39993[/ATTACH] WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU PEOPLE? :music_whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Rusty, read through here. Some things in the discussion there do not apply since yours is a laptop (the discussion on installing a new card) but the settings tweak discussion does apply. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=54814&page=5 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_M Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 Thanks for the help. I appreciate it. Hopefully that'll bring it up to a playable standard. Otherwise I'll just stick to IL 2 until I can afford a bigger place with room to build a desktop! The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vekkinho Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Apart from your HD3650 (with passive cooler) the other big bottleneck is your CPU pegged to 2.0 Ghz. It's like this: more CPU clock more FPS! It's always been this way ever since Flanker. People here O/C their CPUs to 4.0+ to ensure constantly playable FPS with lots (but not all) features maximized (water is a great FPS killer and no point in having it maxed). [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diveplane Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 (edited) running bare minimum visuals, you might just get a decent framerate. with little ai or air traffic also ingame. extra graphic options here , location of file =ROOT:Lock On.Flaming Cliffs 2\BlackShark\data\scripts HAZE =IS A BIG FRAME HIT recommend this off on low end pcs, however it may effect terrain textures graphics. LIGHTS = also turn off on a low end pc even try 16 bit color mode but again may effect visuals ingame , but will gain a few frames. ..................... ["graphics"] = { ["multiMonitorSetup"] = "1camera", ["color"] = "32", ["heatBlr"] = 1, ["scenes"] = "medium", ["water"] = 2, ["fullScreen"] = true, ["visibRange"] = "High", ["aspect"] = 2.6666666666667, ["textures"] = 2, ["shadows"] = 3, ["effects"] = 3, ["width"] = 2048, ["lights"] = 2, ["height"] = 768, ["civTraffic"] = 0, ["resolution"] = "2048x768", ["haze"] = 1, }, -- end of ["graphics"] } -- end of options ............................................................. Edited June 13, 2010 by diveplane 1 https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_M Posted June 14, 2010 Author Share Posted June 14, 2010 Well with those options at times I'm hitting over 60FPS! Obviously I've got to turn quite a few options to low, but it looks to be a vast improvement without totally killing the graphics. Sure I can see a fair difference, but it now seems flyable. Thank you very much for the help. Just gotta tinker to find the best balance between looking ok-ish without running the frame rate into the ground (and the plane with it) Thanks again The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryback Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Well with those options at times I'm hitting over 60FPS! Obviously I've got to turn quite a few options to low, but it looks to be a vast improvement without totally killing the graphics. Sure I can see a fair difference, but it now seems flyable. Thank you very much for the help. Just gotta tinker to find the best balance between looking ok-ish without running the frame rate into the ground (and the plane with it) Thanks again Hi sorry to ask.. How on earth do you get 60FPS with this config? May i ask your graphics.cfg and options.lua files?I've a low end card too.. I go often down to 12-17..Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage0030 Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Hi sorry to ask.. How on earth do you get 60FPS with this config? May i ask your graphics.cfg and options.lua files?I've a low end card too.. I go often down to 12-17..Thanks. if I was even able to run this on a laptop that alone would just make me happy, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_M Posted June 15, 2010 Author Share Posted June 15, 2010 Admittedly, upon further examination, the framerate still hit the floor when trying to engage enemies. With haze disabled, I get a huge framerate boost, but the look of the ground is horrible. With everything else turned way down, I get 25-30 ish when flying about, and in the A10 instant action, however when I try to play the first campaign mission, things still slow to a crawl. Looks like I'll be sticking to the original flaming cliffs, Lock on, Falcon 4.0 AF and IL2 1946 which all run much better until I can improve my rig The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sel94 Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 (edited) Rusty, read through here. Some things in the discussion there do not apply since yours is a laptop (the discussion on installing a new card) but the settings tweak discussion does apply. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=54814&page=5 Hey, that's me!:) So yeah, pretty much the whole thing is useful, read it all. It will save EtherrealN a few hours of trying to explain everything to people like us. :] Edited June 15, 2010 by Sel94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diveplane Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Admittedly, upon further examination, the framerate still hit the floor when trying to engage enemies. With haze disabled, I get a huge framerate boost, but the look of the ground is horrible. With everything else turned way down, I get 25-30 ish when flying about, and in the A10 instant action, however when I try to play the first campaign mission, things still slow to a crawl. Looks like I'll be sticking to the original flaming cliffs, Lock on, Falcon 4.0 AF and IL2 1946 which all run much better until I can improve my rig mind the ai and scripts running also takes a big chunk of processing as well , campaigns on a low end laptop and pc will be a no go bust am afraid, instant action youll be fine or go inside editor create small ai target missions. https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insanatrix Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 (edited) He's not alone. After the patch when I tried to do the A-10 campaign, My fps started around 19 and dropped to about 10 as the mission progressed. No clue why it just does, could be an addon maybe but I'm not sure which one. This is on a Phenom II 940 @ 3.4ghz and HD 4870 Edited June 16, 2010 by Insanatrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_M Posted June 16, 2010 Author Share Posted June 16, 2010 He's not alone. After the patch when I tried to do the A-10 campaign, My fps started around 19 and dropped to about 10 as the mission progressed. No clue why it just does, could be an addon maybe but I'm not sure which one. This is on a Phenom II 940 @ 3.4ghz and HD 4870 Was this only after the patch? I may consider a clean reinstall if it could improve my situation, but I'm not hunting miracles. That thread which has been linked to is very helpful. Lots of useful info. The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiJack Posted June 16, 2010 Share Posted June 16, 2010 Rusty_M, remember to set your Windows 7 performance options to "Adjust for best performance" in Advanced system properties! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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