another nail in the coffin of the sim industry

[deadsmell]

I would LMAO if ChromeWasp were actually some sadistic ED developer, out to find out how well the minions are informed.:lol: That's really more believable to me then the thought that someone could actually be this way.

I can visualize it:

A group of Dev's sitting in the summer heat by a pool in the country side near Moscow sipping Vodka on ice and taking turns posting on the laptop, Laughing their asses off.:megalol:

 

Well whoever it is, they are definitely just toying with ALL of you.

 

How many pages is this thing on now?

 

You guys should stop feeding the troll.

 

Im ashamed to even be posting in this nonsense, but I fear that if someone doesnt point out the obvious, this will just go on and on.............

[213]

this is confusing. he went from saying this is the nail in the coffin of sims to saying this is the best simulator he has.

[Nose Nuggets]

this is confusing. he went from saying this is the nail in the coffin of sims to saying this is the best simulator he has.

 

 

just think how bad all the others must be!

 

 

/hawx!

[Martillo1]

You go to Steam... and the console flamerboys come to your lair "a tocarte los cojones". Entertaining, though...

[ChromeWasp]

Thanks for the tracks I will watch them tomorrow

It is a great sim - just wish it was perfect is all

I got my helicopter model running in my game now

tomorrow will add instruments, weapons and autopilot

Here is a track of my "progress" now you can LYAO at me

http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=41580&d=1281491374

I can either upgrade my machine to i7 for £350 or get an i7 laptop for £850

I want a laptop with 2 hard drives and 2 digital video outputs - not easy to find

[metalnwood]

Nope, not here to laugh. You know that you are not on realistic settings? I don't know how to tell what you have on game mode and what is not but the bouncing off the deck doesn't happen in real mode for sure.

 

Have you got game flight mode on as well?

[joey45]

Go for the i7 chip. you already have the PC parts....

 

why the switch from $ to £ ??

 

EDIT: follow on what Metalnwood is saying - change everything to Realistic.... If you haven't already done so that is.

[CAT_101st]

If you have a dule core and on XP 32 you need to sett BS to run on the 1 core not the 0 core. you will gain about 5 FPS just by doing this. What this does is puts the sim on the CPU core not being used by the OS. More free cycles to calculate for BS.

[aairon]

If you have a dule core and on XP 32 you need to sett BS to run on the 1 core not the 0 core. you will gain about 5 FPS just by doing this. What this does is puts the sim on the CPU core not being used by the OS. More free cycles to calculate for BS.

I was under the impression that was taken care of with patch 1.0.2 to make that happen automatically, I read somewhere that the "CPU affinity" was taken care of?

Did I misunderstand? and if so how do I set affinity other then right clicking on the .exe? or does this strictly apply to XP and vista and win 7 don't work this way?

 

in refrence to DCSMax

It's broken with patch v1.02 and can only be fixed by the author. BTW the affinity is no longer needed as patch v1.01 fixed that issue. However DCSMAX is still useful for a quickly getting to the cockpit. I'd like to see it fixed too.

Edited August 11, 2010 by aairon

[sweinhart3]

I think you still have to set affinity for XP. Vista and 7 are automatically taken care of.

[aairon]

Ok I see, I was just now trying to find change logs for 1.01 and could find a link but when you click on it it's dead. I wanted to see what was said about affinity at that time. I can't seem to find change logs for any patch in one single place. Plenty of 20 to 60 page long threads discussing changes but no place that I could find where you could go and find something akin to a "list".

Any ideas?

[Distiler]

Yes, if you are in a dual core in XP, switching to Vista or W7 will make go from, i.e., 20s to 30s fps. Almost like magic.

[ChromeWasp]

bouncing off the deck doesn't happen in real mode:

All real settings except Immortal/Fuel/Ammo till I get better

 

Have you got game flight mode on as well?

No it is unusable

 

why the switch from $ to £ ??

I paid $ for the game but I live in UK

 

BS to run on the 1 core not the 0 core

? since applying the patch BS uses both cores

[ZaltysZ]

bouncing off the deck doesn't happen in real mode:

All real settings except Immortal/Fuel/Ammo till I get better

 

With immortality you just bounce when you hit ground hard enough for a crash. Turn that off. :smilewink:

 

P.S.: really, turn immortality off even while learning or you will risk getting bad habits whose will later punish you with rotor blade collisions.

Edited August 11, 2010 by ZaltysZ

[topdog]

I may have missed something in 1.0.2 FC compatibility patch (I haven't really read the fine print of it), but in 1.0.1c whilst the affinity is set for you to automatically use ANY core, it doesn't necessarily make use of both.

 

There were some DX improvements for Vista / Win7 that meant some of the burden could be placed onto a different core than the one the game is running on; this is the reason for those users getting a sudden performance boost (as it is leaving more CPU cycles free on _the core_ that BS is using) and it occurs just by switching OS.

 

 

So in summary: in XP you may benefit from telling BS to run the least-loaded core specifically, but it will still be sharing some of the cycles on that core with DX code that could have been offloaded to another one if using win7/vista.

 

 

I'd turn off those immortal/fuel/ammo things. If nothing else, the loaded weight of the heli affects its performance. If you turn them off, take off and fly around a little, then jettison all your weapons, and fly some more, you'll feel it is a lot more bouyant than before. You can often land and refuel at a nearby farp/airport if absolutely needed mid-mission, and some of the campaign missions are fun in that it can be a challenge to get back home whilst 'running on fumes' not being sure if you're going to make it or not.

 

The only 'immortal' setting I turned on, was for my pilot's logbook, because it was a pain to have to keep recreating it and starting over for reasons not of my fault :)

[EtherealN]

Topdog, when it comes to errors that kill the pilot without you being at fault (power outage, OS hiccup, angry mother-in-law etc), there is a solution though it is manual intervention: opening the logbook file in a good text editor (I recommend Notepad++, do not use regular Notepad) you can revert the demise.

 

You can also give yourself lots of extra flight hours if you want... :P

[ZaltysZ]

I may have missed something in 1.0.2 FC compatibility patch (I haven't really read the fine print of it), but in 1.0.1c whilst the affinity is set for you to automatically use ANY core, it doesn't necessarily make use of both.

 

1.0.2 gave us new sound engine, with which game should exploit multiple CPUs even on XP.

[Steel Jaw]

My assessment. Keeping in mind I call it the way I see it.

 

BS is an excellent study sim of a crappy helo.

 

The Ka50 is an old analogue platform, with no radar, no IR/FLIR and an axis mounted canon with a blind side to the left.

 

It is not master of the battlefield. It's just another weapons platform and it has to expose itself to deploy its weapons.Opponents on the ground do not quake in fear in its presence. They take aim.

 

That's why I gave up flying it.

 

What IS the undisputed King of the ground battlefield is the AH64D Longbow. With its mast-mounted millimetre wave radar, it can poke that mast over a ridge, map the targets, share/assign them digitally, drop back down behind the ridge, and deploy up to 16 fire-and-forget hellfires in rapid succession. With its IR/FLIR it OWNS the night.

 

Sorry, but I await a modern sim for this amazing platform. When you fly the Ka50, you're just another target.

[GGTharos]

That is a pretty pessimistic way to view it.

The Ka-50 was indeed somewhat out-dated the day it was presented in terms of sensors.

The gun is a non-issue ... it is an extremely powerful gun, and it has to be mounted that way due to recoil. Mi-28 went of a less powerful, turret-mounted weapon instead.

 

A lot of modern helicopters have to expose themselves to engage, and in some cases the longbow must do so as well. The Ka-50 has good stand-off range with the Vikhrs, and in a combat environment where it would not be facing forces with highly organized air defense, it would do okay.

 

The trick here is not to get stuck on the combat part, but to appreciate it for the flying part. Realize that DCS puts the FLIGHT into Combat Flight Simulation. ;)

[MTFDarkEagle]

Have you got game flight mode on as well?

No it is unusable

 

So you are saying the real flight mode is unusable?

[EtherealN]

an axis mounted canon with a blind side to the left.

 

Actually, it's mounted at CG, allowing it a longer barrel for better range and precision at range, and the CG mounting also permits the helicopter to suffer less from the resultingly larger recoil forces since said forces now act on a relatively microscopic arm compared to how it would have been had the gun been turreted in the nose.

 

Opponents on the ground do not quake in fear in its presence. They take aim.

 

Depends on who they are. The people it is actively deployed against are greatly worried by it, since they have little if anything that can reach it at the range where it's cannon can reach them.

 

What IS the undisputed King of the ground battlefield is the AH64D Longbow. With its mast-mounted millimetre wave radar, it can poke that mast over a ridge, map the targets, share/assign them digitally, drop back down behind the ridge, and deploy up to 16 fire-and-forget hellfires in rapid succession.

 

Which sadly is a superfluous capability for all battlefields where the Apache is currently deployed. Great to have if there's a new regular war happening, of course, but in that case Russia wouldn't field the Kamov, russia would field Hinds and Havoks.

 

With its IR/FLIR it OWNS the night.

 

This is true, especially by comparison, but lets not forget that newer Hind versions and the Havoks have that as well, and the Havok and Ka-52 also have the mast-mounted Arbalet radar system.

 

Sorry, but I await a modern sim for this amazing platform. When you fly the Ka50, you're just another target.

 

You are, if you fly against fighters, although hiding from them is relatively easy.

Against everything else you are still extremely deadly if you plan things right. Any kind of modern equipment is wasted if you don't plan your sortie properly. :)

[CAT_101st]

I think you still have to set affinity for XP. Vista and 7 are automatically taken care of.

 

I found wile I had XP even after 1.0.2 switching cores would give me extra fps. I did choose 2 cores as I have a quad core. I would choose 2 and 3 to run BS put FT and TS3 ond others on coer 0 and 1. helped with stabilty and FPS. I was runing around 36 FPS avrage in citys 40+ in country side.

As for Vista and 7, 1.0.2 just off loads some work to a second core for you. But you do still binafit from moving the sim away fron the 0 core.

[Squid_DK]

Mower I'll up the ante, the AH-64D is ok but US forces in Afghanistan has had to dismount the radar or the payload was too limited, there the ultimate would definetely be the Apache AH.1 or WAH-64 a lot more power from the engines thaks to Rolls Royce and an extremely extensive HIDAS suite.

 

Staffan

[Steel Jaw]

Thanks for the feedback, but do remember I am only pointing why the BS as a sim does not interest me. I did buy it however to support DCS.

 

The A10C is gonna rock my little world me thinks though...cannot wait for that hardcore beast.

[GGTharos]

Actually the WAH-64 doesn't have all that much engine power superiority over the 64D ... it got upgrades too, IIRC.

 

Mower I'll up the ante, the AH-64D is ok but US forces in Afghanistan has had to dismount the radar or the payload was too limited, there the ultimate would definetely be the Apache AH.1 or WAH-64 a lot more power from the engines thaks to Rolls Royce and an extremely extensive HIDAS suite.

 

Staffan